Time Machine backup of Time Capsule files

Does anybody know if there is a way to have Time Machine backup files stored on a Time Capsule?
ken

deh2k - thanks very much - I didn't know about this; It would be nice to have Time Machine see TC drives for a more automated solution. But this Archive to USB is something I can use until that time...
Not ideal, but something --- thanks again...
ken

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Time Machine Backup and storing certain files, switching to lion

Hey Gang,
I need to unload my harddrive.
Whats the best way to do this? I want to keep some files off my harddrive to free up space. But i want to access them anytime. Should i just do i time machine backup then delete the files and still have access to them? Or should i keep the files out seperate from a time machine backup.
what do you think?
also, i'm getting a 2 tb drive to do a time machine so i can switch over to lion, and if i dont like it, switch back. Any idea's on that front?
Thanks

I woke up 05:00 a.m this morning, so I'll try to grab my coffe and be more specific:
Of course, in general you should not delete backups.
But:
1) How does your Time Machine Volume react/get filled if you happen to MOVE 100 GB of files between backuped volumes, for instance?
2) If the license for Leopard and Snow Leopard or other software, REQUIRES me to delete all copies of the software from the machine, I need to know a) How I delete all backups of the Snow Leopard partition files. And b) Other software: if the App spreads itself into Libraries, Caches and whatever places, I actually need to know more of the general subject on how I according to the legalese and my own wish, need to find such places in the file system. And delete all copies in Time Machine backups.
I am familiar with the general principle of never deleting anything if I do not have to. I have zillions of mail files from the nineties still left in my Mail folders. Never do something that is hard to reverse, if there is not good reason for it.
I am new to participating in the Communities, so, yes I'll try to keep the discussion to what the question was!
But right now - please if anyone could answer the problem I already described here, I would be thankful. I'll not argue that Time Machine deletions has to do with the general problem of exactly how Apps occupy the file system.
But I now realise that I could ctrl-click my Snow Leopard partition and delete it from the Time Machine volume. I'll try that when I get so far!
Thanks!
/groundliner

I deleted time capsule files that were old, but now they won't delete from the trash

I deleted some time capsule files from the drive I am using for time machine. It placed them in the trash, but it won't delete them. It is asking if I want to delete only locked files or if I want to delete all files. I have tried both, but they are still showing up in the trash. It won't remove them. Does anyone have any suggestions, as I do not know what else to do. By the way I tried holding the option key and clicking empty trash and that did not work either.

Are these files being used by Time Machine. If so, this is how to delete files from a Time Machine backup. You can not delete them using Finder. Mac 101: Time Machine
Deleting data from a Time Machine backup
To delete all backups of one or more items from a Time Machine backup, follow these steps:
Click the Time Machine icon on your Dock to enter the Time Machine restore interface.
Click on the item you would like to delete. Command-click to select multiple items.
Control-click (or right click) the highlighted item(s) and select "Delete All Backups of..." from the contextual menu, or select "Delete all backups of..." from the Action Item menu.
Authenticate with an administrator password when prompted.
Important: Do not use the Finder to move to the items to the Trash, or to move or delete items in your Time Machine backup repository. The folder containing your Time Machine backup repository is called "Backups.backupdb" and is located on the external disk or Time Capsule you have chosen in Time Machine preferences.

Can I access time capsule file without using imac

can I access time capsule file without using imac

From a time machine backup? No. If you mean just a regular file stored on there? Not directly. There are a couple of apps out there where you can indirectly get to a file but it's a pain. If you have need of accessing a file both from the mac and the iPad then I suggest DropBox. You get 2GB free and it's a good way to share information between machines and devices.

Time Capsule file permissions

Whenever I copy a file to the time capsule (either via finder by moving it there, or via terminal with cp) the file permissions of the file end up with -rwxrwxrwx, independently whether the file was an executable, or whether it only had reading permissions for all or group. Running chmod on the Time Capsule files has no effect.
This is really silly and makes the Airport Disk sharing useless. This way I will never share files with my friends over the Airport disk because the files loose their property and all files are executables at the end.
Is there a way to mount or configure the Time Capsule so that it conserves the file permissions?
I am aware that time capsule cannot handle different users, but at least it should conserve the file permissions. I imagine it could be like a scp or ftp of files to another server. My files on the other server will not have my user name, but at least they conserve the file permissions. A -rw-r-r- file will still be a -rw-r-r- file even if I copy it 10 times from one server to another.
I would lik to encourage Apple to take this problem seriously and provide an update for this issue. So many other Apple products are just so well integrated in a networking environment, even if it is a heterogeneous one, but not Time Capsule with this flaw.
Best wishes,
Reto

Agree, this is a serious flaw, that makes the device very dangerous to use as a central server for shared files, for example, the family's photograph collection. Since there appears to be no way to write protect anything, how can I ensure the files don't get modified or deleted?
Here's a nasty case I am seeing:
We unload a digital camera onto the TC's disk, then someone goes to their iPhoto app, and adds these files to their iPhoto library. Then they do something simple, like rotate the photos, and voila! The master file on the TC has now been modified! Horrible.

I have "migrated" my Time Capsule files to my new iMac and most of the files to me "I don't have permission to view files" I am they admin....will I thought I was. What gives?

I have "migrated" my Time Capsule files to my new iMac and most of the files to me "I don't have permission to view files" I am they admin....will I thought I was. What gives?

You should be able to change the permissions on the files.. this is yet another bungle by Mavericks I suspect.
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH13799
Sometimes it is because you Migrated wrongly.
http://pondini.org/TM/E10.html
It is not up to Mavericks because sadly the guy who wrote all this great info died recently.

FTP Time Capsule Files

I have a MAC running OX X 10.5.6 and I am trying to access my Apple Time Capsule files remotely. I have port 21 open and have assigned it to my local Time Capsule address of 10.0.1.1 I am not sure why but I get the message "unable to connect to <IP address FTP server dropped the connection.
My windows script is:
Fetch 5.3 (5D161) Intel running on Mac OS X 10.5.6 (9G55) Intel English
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Buggy TC. You just need to restart it.
Let me know how you get on.

Will Time Machine backup Time Capsule files to an attached usb drive?

Hi Everyone,
I want to put shared media files on my Time Capsule and then have Time Machine backup my imac and all the files on the TC to a usb drive attached to the Capsule. Possible? That way I have a shared media server that is being backup up regularly.
Thanks for the help!

No. Time Machine cannot backup any network attached storage device such as TC. TM can only backup a Mac's internal HDD plus and ATTACHED/LOCAL HDD to the external HDD connect to the TC USB port.

Will full restore from Time Machine backup replace fresh system files?

My ol' iMac G5 has been sluggish and buggy lately. I'd love to do a clean install of Leopard, and then do a full restore from a Time Machine backup.
My question is, will this help? Or will the Time Machine backup simply replace the newly installed system files, leaving me with the same sluggish, buggy OS?

no, this will not help. when you do a full system restore TM will wipe your hard drive and replace everything with the copy of the system at the backup time. You might try doing an erase and install followed by using migration assistant to migrate your user data and/or applications form the Tm drive. that might result in a cleaner system. however, the cleanest way would be to do an erase and install followed by manual migration from the TM drive. Use [this post|http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=6185507] as a guide on manually migrating your data. You'd also have to manually reinstall all your apps.

Time machine backups cache and temp files?

Just bought a new external usb disk and used it as the time machine backup volume. All time machine configurations are remained as default, so it would backup all my current HD. While watching it estimating the time that the first backup would take, a question jump out in my mind:
Will time machine backup all files "honestly"? Will it make a copy of every file including the Internet cache and temp files when I'm browsing websites? I'm used to watch youtube a lot, and the temp flv file would be large (though I don't know where it is stored on Leopard). If these files would be backup-ed as well, I think it would be a great waste of disk space.
Can anyone confirm that those caches and temp files would be copied or not? If it would, how to prevent this? Thank you.

If you wish to exclude anything from the backup simply drag the item into the Exclude list. For example, you can save considerable space by excluding the /System/ folder. Cache files would be found in the /Library/ and /Home/Library/ folders. Each folder contains a folder named Caches. There is no specific folder in which temporary items as stored that is visible to the user because the operating system will usually delete temporary files on its own. This may not be the case for a specific program, however. Browsers may maintain their own reserved cache and temporary files, and manage them on their own.
I do not think, however, that TM backs up caches or temporary files. I find no such items in my TM backup - only the folders. I do not back up my /System/ folder.

Time Capsule - File sharing with accounts

I recently got a brand new Time Capsule 1 TB. I have not copied any data to the internal (Airport) disk drive yet since I have been previously using a separate USB disk drive for Time machine backups and for storing other data. When I will have time I will just copy the data from the external USB drive to the Time capsule and use the Time capsule disk also for Time machine backups (I will delete the previous Time machine backups from the USB drive), while the USB drive will remain connected to the Time capsule for extended storage.
I would like to secure my shared disk with accounts (Airport Utility ->Disks -> File Sharing -> Secure Shared Disks -> With Accounts); currently I have "With a disk password" option selected. Somewhere on the internet I've read that when I enable this feature a new directory is created for each of the user account added to the Time capsule for disk access and that the existing data is removed from the Time capsule. Also, a new folder is created in Time capsule with a name of the disk which can be used as a shared folder for all users with accounts on Time capsule.
The questions I have are:
1. What happens to the other external USB drive connected to Time machine when I enable the user account secutiry feature? Is the data deleted? Are user account also set for this drive?
2. How to delete one user's data from the Time capsule after enabling user accounts access? If I delete his/her account on Time capsule, is his/her data also deleted from disk or just stays there?

mikkec wrote:
I recently got a brand new Time Capsule 1 TB. I have not copied any data to the internal (Airport) disk drive yet since I have been previously using a separate USB disk drive for Time machine backups and for storing other data. When I will have time I will just copy the data from the external USB drive to the Time capsule and use the Time capsule disk also for Time machine backups
this will not work. TM treats backups to locally attached drives differently to those made to networked drives. click here for information.
(I will delete the previous Time machine backups from the USB drive), while the USB drive will remain connected to the Time capsule for extended storage.
I would like to secure my shared disk with accounts (Airport Utility ->Disks -> File Sharing -> Secure Shared Disks -> With Accounts); currently I have "With a disk password" option selected. Somewhere on the internet I've read that when I enable this feature a new directory is created for each of the user account added to the Time capsule for disk access and that the existing data is removed from the Time capsule. Also, a new folder is created in Time capsule with a name of the disk which can be used as a shared folder for all users with accounts on Time capsule.
The questions I have are:
1. What happens to the other external USB drive connected to Time machine when I enable the user account secutiry feature? Is the data deleted? Are user account also set for this drive?
2. How to delete one user's data from the Time capsule after enabling user accounts access? If I delete his/her account on Time capsule, is his/her data also deleted from disk or just stays there?
somebody else will need to address these questions.

Need help understanding Time Capsule file structure and how to get it back

I have the original Time Capsule on which I backup both my Mac Pro and my wife’s Macbook. When Snow Leopard came out, I successfully used the ‘Restore from Time Machine’ feature on my Mac Pro so I know it has worked. However, my wife’s MacBook harddrive died the other day and I was trying to do the ‘Restore from Time Machine’ and all it would find was a backup from April (when I put her in a new larger drive). Time Machine would not find any backup files newer that April. She stated that she had seen the the Time Machine backup notices regularly and as recent as the day the haddrive died (Nov. 23) so I figured that I should have no problem. Here is what I have found in my trouble shooting and what leads to my questions below.
This is the file structure I found: (note that our ID’s are ‘Denise’ and ‘John’)
*Time Capsule* (the drive as listed in my Finder window sidebar under ‘shared’)
>Folder called ‘Time Capsule’ (when logged in as either ‘Denise’ or ‘John’)
>>Denise Sparsebundle
>>>Backup of Denise’s iBook (mounted image)
>>>>Folder called ‘Backups.backupdb’
>>>>>Folder called ‘Denise’s iBook
>>>>>>Single folder with old April backup (not the right files)
>>John Sparsebundle
>>>Backup of John’s Mac Pro (mounted image)
>>>>Folder called ‘Backups.backupdb’
>>>>>Folder called ‘John’s Mac Pro’
>>>>>>Folders containing all my backup files
>Folder Called ‘Denise’ (if logged as ‘Denise’)
>>Denise’s Sparsebundle (a disk image)
>>>Backup of Denise iBook (the mounted image. Name from old machine)
>>>>Backups.Backupdb
>>>>>Denise’s iBook (Contains the backup I need)
>Folder Called ‘John’ (if logged in as ‘John’)
>> (empty)
For some reason, my wife’s backup files are stored within a folder located at the top level of the Time Capsule drive called ‘Denise’, however, mine are within a folder called ‘Time Capsule’ which is at the same level as the ‘Denise’ folder.
For some reason, when trying to use Time Machine to recover, it bypasses the top level ‘Denise’ folder which contains the correct files and goes into the ‘Time Capsule’ folder and finds the outdated backup files.
I would assume that both my backup files and my wife’s should be at the same level of the Time Capsule.
I was eventually able to use Migration Assistant to recover the files after installing a fresh OS and mounting the correct Sparsebundle image.
So, my question, how do I get this fixed so that if I have to recover a drive with Time Capsule, it will find the correct files.
Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for any help.

John Ormsby wrote:
What I was trying to determine is why different backups for one particular machine are located at different file structure levels on my Time Capsule and why the most resent one for that machine is at a different level that for my other machine. Also, what is the correct level that both machines backups should be at.
well John, first can you clarify if you are on 10.4.8 as your profile suggests ? if so, i'm wondering how you can use TM at all because TM was introduced with Leo. if you're not on 10.4.8, please update your profile. if you could, please also indicate details of your machine such as available RAM, processor, etc.
second, what OS is your wife's machine running ?
third, i frankly don't know too much about TM's file structure or if there indeed is such a thing as the correct one. however, i do know that it is best to leave TM to do its thing (as long as it's working). FWIW, though off-topic, you may want to have a look at this read for further information.
last but not least, i see TM backups to my TC only as a part of my backup strategy. the backbone of my strategy is to create bootable clone of my startup disk(s) using e.g. Carbon Copy Cloner on a regular basis. while TM is capable of doing a full system restore, i don't trust it as much as a working clone. i use TM to retrieve a file i accidentally trashed a week ago but you cannot boot from a TM backup if your startup disk goes belly up.
If I have missed this information in either the FAQs or the Troubleshooting article, I would greatly appreciate being pointed to it .
i expect you didn't miss anything and i'm sorry you didn't find any help there. perhaps if Pondini (author of the FAQ and troubleshooting user tips) reads this thread, you will get the necessary advice on the file structure and more besides.
good luck to you !

Time Capsule file transfer - why so slow?

I've got a simultaneous dual-band Time Capsule serving as a router for my network, which includes a newer Macbook Pro and an older PowerPC G5.
When I transfer a 2GB file directly from the G5 to the MBP (this is of course going through the TC as the router), it takes about 95 seconds, which is 22 MB/s or 172 Mbps if you prefer.
When I transfer the same file from the G5 to the Time Capsule's drive, it takes about 190 seconds, about 11 MB/s or 86 Mbps.
Why is the Time Capsule's drive so much slower? Are these speeds typical for the TC, for example, when you are using Time Machine to back up? (I don't use Time Machine myself, because I'm running Tiger.)
When I hook the two computers directly to each other using ethernet, the same file takes 80 seconds to transfer (25 MB/s or 205 Mpbs).

Well, that is a disappointment. And somewhat puzzling, given that TC is supposed to be a backup solution. You'd think it would be fast. I don't think the drive hardware itself is slow, given what I've read about them (Hitachi Deskstar?).
I have the book you mention and looked up the quote. It also says, "This is partly due to inefficiencies in copying many small files in Apple Filing Protocol
(AFP), and partly due to the low-power, but adequate, processor in the Extreme N (both models)."
The AFP possibly explains why my G5 (Tiger) is slower at writing to the Time Capsule than my husband's Macbook Pro (Leopard).

HT4522 I would like to delete some time capsule files that I erased from my mac. Please and thanks

Please help me deleting some files that are in my time capsule which I have erased from my computer
thank you

Since you deleted the files on your Mac, Time Machine will eventually delete them automatically from the Time Capsule, so you really need do nothing.
If you really do want to delete the files right now, open Time Machine, wait for it to load and use the timeline on the right side of the window to go back to a date when the files were still on your Mac.
Use the Finder like interface to navigate to the specific file that you want to delete and click on it to highlight it
Click the gear icon at the top of Time Machine window and click "Delete all backups of xxxxxxxx"
Do the same for other files that you want to delete.
Click Cancel at the lower left of the window to return to your normal desktop

No permission to read time capsule files

I upgraded from one MBA to another using the Migration Assistant to transfer the account from a Time Capsule. While that worked fine, I cannot access any time machine backups prior to the upgrade--the files are there, but I do not have permissions to view them. It may be that my Time Capsule is logically screwed up (and will need to be reimaged), however these steps allowed me to open the files and I wanted to pass this on to the community.
Using Finder, Navigate to your Time Capsule and open the file for your computer ending in sparsebundle. It will show a folder named backups.backupdb. Open that folder and you will see another folder with your computer name--open that. Then you will see a whole bunch of folders that show dates in the title. Pick one which you believe will contain the files you want. Open it. In this folder you will see the name of your hard drive. Open it. Now you will see folders labeled "applications," "library," "system", "user information", and "users." Open "users." Now you will see a folder for each account and "Shared." Choose the user account of interest.
Now you'll see folders for Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Movies, etc. Each will likely have a red circle with a white line in it (like the international road symbol for "Do Not Enter."). Right click on the one you want to view and select "Get Info". A new window opens.
At the bottom of the new window is a section called "Sharing & Permissions:" Make sure the arrow to the left is pointing down. There is a padlock at the bottom right of the section, click on it. It will ask you for your password (which is the password for your computer). Enter it. There are now three things that can happen:
1. You can select Read & Write for "everyone"
2. You can select the + button at the bottom
3. Both options 1 and 2 are greyed out.
If Option 1 works, change it to Read & Write, click on the Gear at the bottom and select option to the effect of applying these permissions to all subordinate files. Time Machine should now be able to restore from this folder.
If Option 2 works, add your current User name, select Read & Write, click on the Gear at the bottom and select option to the effect of applying these permissions to all subordinate files. Time Machine should now be able to restore from this folder.
If you got to Option 3, you now have to copy this folder somewhere off the Time Capsule. Drag the folder to the desired location. After a few minutes you will be prompted for your computer password. After it copies it will no longer be restricted. You can retrieve the files manually.
Hope someone finds this helpful.

Dan Connors wrote:
I upgraded from one MBA to another using the Migration Assistant to transfer the account from a Time Capsule.
That's why it's recomended to use Setup Assistant when your new Mac first starts up, rather than skipping it and creating a user account. That avoids the permissions problems. See the pink box in Problems after using Migration Assistant for an explanation.

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