Time machine: can I set up the time machine backup on my mbp or do I really need an external storage?

New to mac from pc...

you can setup TM on another partition but this is not good idea
TM on another partion can slow down HDD performance and if HDD fails there is almost no use of this backup

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    8/6/14 11:37:37.496 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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    8/6/14 11:37:47.636 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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    8/6/14 11:37:57.785 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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    8/6/14 11:38:07.920 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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    8/6/14 11:38:18.056 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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    8/6/14 11:38:28.205 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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    8/6/14 11:38:38.341 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (cn.com.zte.MessageCenter.plist) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
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