Time Machine Dies on Mac mini with new, Mac-formatted USB HD
I purchased a new Western Digital 'My Book' 500GB USB external hard drive and connected it to a G4 Mac mini running the latest Leopard version. Right out of the box, I erased the external USB drive and reformatted it with Disk Utility to 'Mac OS X Extended (Journaled)'. The partition map is set to 'Apple Partition Map' with 'Read/Write' status...all looks good so far, right?
The moment the USB drive reformats, a Time Machine dialogue box pops open (this is good!) and asks if I want to use this new drive as my backup drive for Time Machine. I say "OK".
About a half hour later, Time Machine begins is first total backup of the Mac mini. After about 4 to 7 GB (it is different each time), Time Machine either quits or hangs up. When it quits, if you go to System Prefs>Time Machine, it shows that Time Machine has no backup drive to talk to. When it hangs up, you just see the spinning beach ball.
I have reformatted the drive a bunch of times, but have never gotten it to work. I read in the Apple help section (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306932) that I may have a Master Boot Record partition type, and will try that next.
Please let me know if you can help, and I will report back how the MBR partition cleanup goes.
Thanks,
STEVE
Pondini's site is excellent, but didn't happen to cover this problem (or Mavericks in particular as of yet). But I did call AppleCare support as you suggested, rkaufman87, where I was quickly escalated since I'd already tried the things the first tier support people start with. After some investigation via screen sharing and inspection of my system log (which suggested the stall involved issues with the index) the main change we made was to clear out the Time Machine preference files and Spotlight's cache before rebooting and trying again. This time the backup completed without stalling, and has continued to work ever since. Thanks for encouraging me to call support!
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I work at a university so will take Clay's suggestion to my IT guy (he suggested I post here). Im sure it will make more sense to him than me:)
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Hello everyone,
I just bought a new MacBook to substitute my old iMac.
With this upgrade I also went from OS X 10.5.8 (iMac) to 10.6.4 (new MacBook).
On installation I chose for the Migration Assistant to copy my data from the latest TM Backup.
Everything went fine.
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And I accepted. Then the first backup started ...
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Over and over again. Now for over 14 hours straight.
(I have already stopped the backup a few times, as I thought a restart of my Mac would fix anything.
Didn't help ... so now I just left it running for a night + half a day).
Also weird:
• The disk image is still called "Backup of iMac Eddy"
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Anybody know a solution or can give me a heads up?
Thanks in advanceEddy Grzegorzitza wrote:
1) Mounting Time Capsule/Sparsebundle
2) "Verifying XXX.XXX Objects ..."
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Yes, that will happen when Time Machine has to do a very large backup (such as, of a new Mac).
Because of the way Time Machine stores the backups, it's impossible to tell how much space will be gained by deleting a single backup without actually deleting it. So it deletes the oldest one, "compacts" the sparse bundle to recover the space, then checks again. That will continue until there's enough space, or only one backup is left (then it will fail.)
So, subtract the other sparse bundle and shared data from the TC's capacity. If the result isn't at least 2 1/2 times the size of the data on your system, you're going to have to delete the sparse bundle, so Time Machine can start over. (Since TM won't delete the last backup, it needs room for it, plus a new one, plus 20% workspace.)
If there is enough room, you can speed up the process a bit, by manually deleting a bunch of old backups, then compacting the sparse bundle, per #12 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
There is another option.
Connect a USB drive, partitioned so there's separate space for those shared files, so Time Machine can't use up all the empty space, as it will on the TC's disk). Let Time Machine start fresh backing-up the new Mac to the USB drive, and leave the existing backups on the TC's internal HD until you're sure you don't need them, then delete them. You can always browse (and restore from) them, via the +*Browse ...+* option. See #17 in the FAQ. -
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I have a similar problem, but didn't quite understand the solution...
time machine/capsule backs up my macbook. Just got an imac, and copied the image to it. Didn't realize it REALLY copied the image to it... so Time Machine decided the new imac was the macbook.
No. Time Machine always knows which Mac is which, via an identifier that's embedded in the hardware on the logic board.
But it did copy the +Computer Name,+ which you can change via +System Preferences > Sharing.+
And it did copy the Time Machine preferences file (with the backup location you specified), so it backed-the new Mac up to the same destination.
Now Time Capsule backs up the imac... but not the macbook anymore.
There is still a 425GB sparsebundle for the old macbook on the Time Capsule...
Depending on how you answered this prompt, there may be two sparse bundles:
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See #B5 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum), for details.
If you said +Create New Backup,+ there should be two sparse bundles, one for each Mac.
If you said +Reuse Backup,+ there should be one, containing the backups from both, and as it says, the MacBook can no longer use the same set of backups.
Question: Is there a way to reattach to that sparsebundle for backing up the macbook or do I have to start all over?
Probably. First confirm whether there's one sparse bundle or two, and roughly how many backups of the iMac you've done. -
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I have found the wireless backup to take a bit of time to prepare and run but it seams to work nonetheless. The slowness could be caused by the difference in mac addresses from wired to wireless. So you may want to change the sparse bundle file name depending on how you are accessing time machine.
Hopefully this will work for you as it did for me.I am afraid I have to pour some cold water on your enthusiasm.
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1) Get something that doesn't format its harddrive in FAT32.
2) Install DD-WRT on your router (thus voiding its warranty), fight with it for a while in order to get SAMBA running on it, and gain the ability to format your harddrive in Ext2.
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Hardware: iMac (mid 2007)
OS: Mac OS X version 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard)
Processor: 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
The other day I noticed that I had not had a successful Time Machine backup in over a day. Backups were taking a long time to run (4 hours or more), during which time the backup disk was chattering constantly and the disk showed "Estimating index time" in the Spotlight menu (even though I had excluded the disk from Spotlight indexing). When the disk finally stopped chattering, the backup finished with no visible errors but Time Machine continued to state that the last successful backup was yesterday. The backup disk was nearly full, but I had assumed that Time Machine was designed to cope with this situation by deleting old backups.
A complete annotated log file of the incident and my observations can be found here: http://bentopress.com/backup.log.zip
Here are some of the interesting entries from the system.log file:
Sep 7 16:22:14 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: Starting standard backup
Sep 7 16:22:14 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: Backing up to: /Volumes/My Backup Disk/Backups.backupdb
Sep 7 16:23:07 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: No pre-backup thinning needed: 100.0 MB requested (including padding), 137.2 MB available
Sep 7 16:25:49 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: Copied 32984 files (23.7 MB) from volume iMac HD.
Sep 7 16:25:53 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: No pre-backup thinning needed: 100.0 MB requested (including padding), 108.4 MB available
Sep 7 16:25:57 Bento-iMac KernelEventAgent[47]: tid 00000000 type 'hfs', mounted on '/Volumes/My Backup Disk', from '/dev/disk1s3', low disk, very low disk
Sep 7 16:25:58 Bento-iMac mds[45]: (Normal) DiskStore: Rebuilding index for /Volumes/My Backup Disk/Backups.backupdb
Sep 7 16:25:58 Bento-iMac KernelEventAgent[47]: tid 00000000 type 'hfs', mounted on '/Volumes/My Backup Disk', from '/dev/disk1s3', low disk
Sep 7 16:25:59 Bento-iMac mds[45]: (Normal) DiskStore: Creating index for /Volumes/My Backup Disk/Backups.backupdb
Sep 7 16:26:00 Bento-iMac KernelEventAgent[47]: tid 00000000 type 'hfs', mounted on '/Volumes/My Backup Disk', from '/dev/disk1s3', low disk, very low disk
Sep 7 16:26:00 Bento-iMac mds[45]: (Warning) Volume: Indexing reset and suspended on backup volume "/Volumes/My Backup Disk" because it is low on disk space.
Sep 7 16:26:02 Bento-iMac mds[45]: (Normal) DiskStore: Reindexing /Volumes/My Backup Disk/.Spotlight-V100/Store-V1/Stores/35367D91-8096-4D43-802B-A8658DBAB581 because no basetime was found.
Sep 7 16:26:02 Bento-iMac mds[45]: (Normal) DiskStore: Rebuilding index for /Volumes/My Backup Disk/Backups.backupdb
Sep 7 16:26:04 Bento-iMac mds[45]: (Normal) DiskStore: Creating index for /Volumes/My Backup Disk/Backups.backupdb
Sep 7 16:26:14 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: Error: Flushing index to disk returned an error: 0
Sep 7 16:26:14 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: Copied 776 files (17.3 MB) from volume iMac HD.
Sep 7 16:26:15 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[56515]: Backup canceled.
Note the "error: 0". Error code zero normally indicates success.
There were also many, many, many copies of the following message, which occurred while Spotlight was trying to index the backup disk:
Sep 7 17:28:40 Bento-iMac com.apple.backupd[58064]: Waiting for index to be ready (100)
Here's what I think is happening: at the very end of the backup, after the files have been copied to the backup disk, mds resets indexing because the disk is now full. backupd's attempt to flush the index to disk then fails because indexing is suspended (error zero), so the backup is canceled. I suspect that this may occur when the new backup and the old one(s) being deleted are both small enough that the disk "packs" tightly, leaving no room for the index. If a large (>500MB) old backup had been deleted to make room for a small (<100MB) new one, the problem would not have occurred.
I worked around the problem by switching Time Machine from the full disk to my Time Capsule. (I did not have this system backing up to the Time Capsule originally because I purchased the Time Capsule later for a different system.) The downside of this is that I lost access to older backups (though they are still accessible by right-clicking on Time Machine in the dock and selecting "Browse other Time Machine disks..."—however, I have not actually tried this). I'm also not completely happy having both my main systems backing up to the same hardware, but everything seems to be working well at this point and I do have a secondary backup system, using SuperDuper to clone the systems' disks to an external HD, which I do about once a month.
Although I have worked around the problem, I am posting this in the hope that it will be useful to someone else, in the hope that someone at Apple will notice and perhaps improve the performance of Time Machine in this situation, and also in the hope that someone can suggest a solution that does not involve throwing a bigger disk at the problem. Is there any way to free up space on Time Machine's backup disk, for example by manually pruning older backups, either through Time Machine itself or via the Finder or command line?If you suspect that the disk being full is the problem, have you tried deleting some of the old backup data on the TM disk?
When in TM, go back to the past a long way, right click on a file/directory and select "delete backup". Do this on some big files you have (so that you get more space per removal) that you change all the time (so you'll still have recent backups). -
Does Time Machine and Sleep Mode work with your external USB HD???
I have a new iMac 10.7.3 with latest software updates.
Do you have an external USB hardrive that works with Time Machine turned on and Energy Saver set at 10 minutes on the computer???
If so which external USB HD are you using???
So far I have not found one that works correctly. They seem to corrupt the external USB HD requiring a reformat of the drive each time.
I need to buy one that works.
Tom..........I am presently using four different brands of external drives with Time Machine on different Macs:
Seagate
Iomega
Western Digital
Maxtor (this is an old Firewire 400 drive)
I never configured any of these drives specially for sleep or spin down. I just formatted them and then used them with Time Machine. The computers are set to sleep after various idle times raging from 10 minutes to 20 minutes. The box for "put hard disks to sleep when possible" is also checked. Two are laptops and two are iMacs.
I have never had any issues with any of these drives, and they've been used with Time Machine for over two years in some cases. That corruption you mention sounds unusual.
Did you format the drives for use with a Mac before connecting them up for Time Machine? For instance, Mac OS Extended and GUID partition table? Some PC formats won't work, for instance If you select an NTFS or FAT-formatted drive, Time Machine prompts you to reformat the drive. If you have one of these, reformat the drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.
I am suspecting you have a drive with one of the PC formats that isn't compatible with Time Machine. -
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I've recently posted on a problem I've had with a misbehaving time capsule. Different problem now.
I have a fairly old Macbook Pro (one of the early monobody machines), 2.8G Core 2 Duo running 10.8.3. Until recently it's functioned well. I turned Time Machine off a couple of weeks ago, and turned it back on earlier this week.
I've lost my old Time Machine backups, but am now trying to back up to a new, healthy Time Capsule. Another mac I have has Time Machine working perfectly well on this Time Capsule.
Earlier I started a new backup and left the machine. 4 hours later I returned to find 50+ GB out of 200GB backed up, but the mac itself is pretty much non responsive. It takes up to 20 seconds to switch between applications, then the spinning spectrum wheel is in evidence much of the time.
Some info on what I've done to try to diagnose the problem
I've verified the disk on the macbook, it verifies fine. I've restarted in safe mode to clean up (whatever safe mode cleans up) then rebooted again.
I've tried switching to a different admin account which gives the same result.
Running Activity Monitor is interesting but not too informative (to me) In short, nothing seems to be happening. Not much CPU activity, ditto network or disk activity. So nothing seems to be hogging the CPU.
The problem seems to be independent of whether I run over wireless or hard connect to the Time Capsule
If I stop the backup and turn Time Machine off the mac responds as normal.
If I turn Time Machine back on and it's waiting for the next scheduled backup, again, the mac responds as normal. So it'd appear to be solely a problem when the TM backup process is actually "active"If you have more than one user account, these instructions must be carried out as an administrator.
Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the icon grid.
Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select
View ▹ Show Log List
from the menu bar.
Enter the word "Starting" (without the quotes) in the String Matching text field. You should now see log messages with the words "Starting * backup," where * represents any of the words "automatic," "manual," or "standard." Note the timestamp of the last such message. Clear the text field and scroll back in the log to that time. Select the messages timestamped from then until the end of the backup, or the end of the log if that's not clear. Copy them (command-C) to the Clipboard. Paste (command-V) into a reply to this message.
If there are runs of repeated messages, post only one example of each. Don't post many repetitions of the same message.
When posting a log extract, be selective. Don't post more than is requested.
Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.
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