Time Machine Initial Setup

Hi, I have been searching post and havent found a clear cut answer. It is regarding the intial setup of Time Machine on an External Hardrive that I already have files on. Do I have to delete these files that I have on my external just to install Time Machine on it or can I keep the files there somehow?

What is the format of the external drive. When I started Time Machine on mine I got no warnings like that. It just started working. I have my Time Machine going to the same partition my Tiger System is in. Has not interfered with booting from Tiger. I have been very impressed with TM so far.

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