Time machine local snapshot broken?

Hello everyone,
I've done a clean install by going into restore mode and wiping my HDD and installing mavericks. I can confirm that localsnapshot is broken on my Macbook Pro retina 15" and MacBook Pro 13". I have this exact same problem : https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5424793
I am just curious if localsnapshot functionality works for you all. Could you post your test case by trying to enter time machine when your external drive is disconnected on any macbook or macbook pro.
Thank you.

Thanks for the input. I really hope apple figures it out at some point and provide a fix for everyone.

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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4878
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what is confusing is why I would get a warning message that the disc was becoming full if there is 128GB worth of files that should have been automatically deleted?
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I started using time machine to backup select folders to an external HDD hooked up via USB.
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In this one, the created date is now incorrect.
In some cases, the file may change into a folder in the local snapshot and you will not be able to preview it anymore.
I cannot replicate the folder problem now, but I have had this happen to regular txt files.
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Hi,
I started using time machine to backup select folders to an external HDD hooked up via USB.
I noticed that during preview, the created dates of files for local snapshots are always incorrect. They are all timestamped to the year 2000.
You can see from the screenshots. The first shows the file with the correct timestamp.
In this one, the created date is now incorrect.
In some cases, the file may change into a folder in the local snapshot and you will not be able to preview it anymore.
I cannot replicate the folder problem now, but I have had this happen to regular txt files.
Any ideas?
thanks
Matt

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Local snapshot are enabled using command line.
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what is confusing is why I would get a warning message that the disc was becoming full if there is 128GB worth of files that should have been automatically deleted?
You didn't get the warning because of that. You got it because of the files that you moved to another volume, and perhaps others. The local snapshots contain some of those files. They're available, for the time being, in case you need to restore them. Eventually they'll be deleted.

Time machine local snapshot

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Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the icon grid.
Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left.
Click the Clear Display icon in the toolbar. Then try the action that you're having trouble with again. Select any messages that appear in the Console window. Copy them to the Clipboard (command-C). Paste into a reply to this message (command-V).
When posting a log extract, be selective. In most cases, a few dozen lines are more than enough.
Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.
Important: Some private information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting.

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I found an error in the console log which happens every second.
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The errors are gone..
But I've no idea why I get these errors.
I formatted my whole Time Capsule and startet from scratch but the same errors...
I working with Yosemite and the 2nd or 3nd generation of Time Capsule.
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I appreciate any help...

Yosemite is actually not just buggy it is broken. The DNS is broken. After you restart the TC for the next few minutes yosemite can find it.. after that it is lost again.
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I have a 2TB Time Machine connected to one Macbook with a 750GB hard drive...
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Could be:
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bizlaw wrote:
My MacBook Pro is running out of hard drive space, and the culprit is Time Machine. Apparently Time Machine stores local backups on the hard drive when it is not connected to the backup drive,
No. It makes them at all times, whether the regular backup drive is connected or not.
and then is supposed to delete them when it does backup.
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So your problem is almost certainly elsewhere. See Where did my Disk Space go? for the common culprits, and ways to find less-common ones.
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Currently have house wide wireless network and using external HD (USB) for time machine. HD broken. would Time capsule work with current routers etc or make them redundant?

I currently have a large house wide wireless network and I am using a dedicated Buffalo HD with USB for time machine. The HD has gone bad and can't be repaired. I am thinking of replacing it with a Time Capsule. Will this fit in with my current routers etc, render them redundent ? I THOUGHT THAT THE HD I BOUGHT WAS OF GOOD QUAILTY BUT IT HAS BROKEN AFTER 2 YEARS. HOW LONG CAN ONE HOPE FOR A TIME CAPSULE TO LIVE (USING QUALITY SURGE DEVICES ETC) ? Does one need to backup the backups?
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Steve M. wrote:
I know I should have redundant backups and should probably have a second external HD and eventually will.
Yes, that's best.
But for now, if I partition (I'm assuming I should) a new 1 TB external HD, how big should I make the TM partition vs. the SD partition at this point assuming I have under 100 GB on my internal Mac HD? Is this a feasible way of doing things here in the near term.
Your best bet is to make your TM partition 2-3 times the size of the amount of data you anticipate backing-up. Put it first on the drive; that way, later on you can delete the partition below it, expand the TM partition, and make a new, smaller partition for SD (or use the whole drive). See #1, #3, #5 and #6 in the Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum, for details.
By the way, any recommendations on which peripheral HDs to consider? I was very surprised on a recent visit to my local Apple Store that they have a large stock of WD My Studio drives. I mentioned to an Apple sales person that I had always heard WDs were kind of a no-no among Mac users but she assured me the current crop of them were much improved. Any comment on that??
Most any drive will work with Macs, and Time Machine.
If you're going to put a "bootable clone" on it, be sure it's a bootable drive. Most PPC Macs can boot only from FireWire; most Intels can boot from F/W or USB. But some Western Digitals won't boot a Mac. Their list of which ones should and +should not+ boot: http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/stdadp.php?pfaqid=1787. But note the disclaimer that they don't support it +*at all.+*.
In addition, many of them have a built-in sleep mode that cannot be disabled, and sometimes interferes with Time Machine backups: http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/stdadp.php?pfaqid=1376

Time machine local to Network

I have three macs on a wireless network. all machines have a relatively large amount of data (over 120GB). i have a 2TB USB drive lying around that i wanted to use for time machine backups. what i want to do is to "seed" the backup of the other machines by attaching the USB drive to them, doing a local backup (very fast) and then setting time machine to point to the USB drive that will be shared by one of the machines all the time. is there a way to trick time machine to recognize the backup it already did on the USB drive if it is not attached locally? my testing has shown that time machine wants to do a full backup when i mount the drive over the network, but then again i don't have much experience with time machine and cannot find any settings other than backup location.

seb_mbp wrote:
I have three macs on a wireless network. all machines have a relatively large amount of data (over 120GB). i have a 2TB USB drive lying around that i wanted to use for time machine backups. what i want to do is to "seed" the backup of the other machines by attaching the USB drive to them, doing a local backup (very fast) and then setting time machine to point to the USB drive that will be shared by one of the machines all the time. is there a way to trick time machine to recognize the backup it already did on the USB drive if it is not attached locally?
No. Time Machine stores backups differently when done locally (in a Backups.backupdb folder at the top level of the volume) vs. over a network (a Backups.backupdb folder inside a rather odd container called a +sparse bundle).+ You can't switch from one to the other.
Your best bet is to partition the drive, so the Mac being backed-up locally has it's own, exclusive space. The other two can have their own partitions, or can share one. See #4 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
If possible, connect the source and destination Macs to the network via Ethernet cables for the first, full backup. It should be 2-3 times faster than WIFI.

Time Machine user interface broken after PowerMac G5 replacement

My PowerMac G5 tower recently experienced a disaster. I was able to replace the unit with a very similar unit, and moved in my hard drive. It's working great.
I've been using an external hard drive for Time Machine backups.
I decided after moving in to the "new" G5 to hook up my external drive and do another incremental backup.
I received the error messages that are associated with a different motherboard - the backups are associated with the old logic board's MAC address.
Apparently there is a relatively easy way to fix this with Snow Leopard and later - a terminal command called tmutil.
Not so in Leopard.
I found the following thread at Mac OS X Hints, and spent quite some time reading it: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20080128003716101
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However, the Time Machine GUI application is "broken". There is no past. The only time available is NOW, even though there have been 2 or 3 recent backups, and many before then. There is no way to roll back in time, choose a file or folder and restore it.
Summary: Time Machine is creating backups, and the Leopard DVD believes it could restore the whole hard drive with them. But the handy user interface is useless - for all users.
I am very close to doing a complete scorched earth reset and simply begin doing Time Machine all over again, just to get the user interface to work.
Any suggestions?

Gordon Henderson wrote:
Apparently there is a relatively easy way to fix this with Snow Leopard and later - a terminal command called tmutil.
Actually, not Snow Leopard. It's on Lion and later.
However, the Time Machine GUI application is "broken". There is no past. The only time available is NOW, even though there have been 2 or 3 recent backups, and many before then. There is no way to roll back in time, choose a file or folder and restore it.
Sounds like the hack is, well, like most, a faulty one.
It's barely possible it's somehow confused Time Machine into treating each backup as being on a separate drive, and only the most recent is connected. You might be able to see the old ones via the procedure in #E3 of Time Machine - Troubleshooting, but that's not going to have the result you want.
I am very close to doing a complete scorched earth reset and simply begin doing Time Machine all over again, just to get the user interface to work.
That's probably best.

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