Time Machine Not backing up home Folder

Time machine is not backing up any of my Home Folder files for ONE of my users.
I have two users, one of them gets backed up, the other does not.
I have a Mac Pro with all latest updates from Software Update.
The machine has 4 HDD's, Mac HD, Home, Data and Time Machine Drive
Mac HD is where the system lives
Home is where the Users Home folders are. Copied across when first installed and location changed in System Accounts/Advanced/ Home Directory.
Data drive is where I first import all data (music/photos etc)
Time Drive....well obvious I think
From a clear desktop, If I click on Mac H, a finder window pops up, then click on the Home Icon folder and get 6 folder within the Home folder (Desktop/Docs/Downloads etc).
I click on the TM Icon in the Dock, TM does its thing and the front Finder Window alters its appearance changing to the Top level in the Devices in the sidebar.
If I move to the Home HDD, it show the User folder for one user but not the other.
I thought maybe it was because you could not see logged in User files, but not the case. Even if I log in as the other user, the particular user Folder is not backed up.
I have checked the TM options, and the only items excluded are the Data HDD and the TM HDD

Well it is working....properly....not sure.
What with all the mucking around with different users etc, and 3 or 4 restores from TM backups it has all got very confused.
Have deleted all TM Backups, iPhoto Libraries, iTunes libraries the lot and starting with a clean install from Disk again. Third time lucky
I tried a restore from the first TM backup, but then I am back to the wrong user name scenario again....So it is time to bin it all and learn from mistakes over the last week
This is the first Mac I have had, so trying out loads of new software, lots of installs, and removals etc as I find apps to replace my old windows ones.
I knew there was going to be a lot to learn switching Gatesware and the odd Ubuntu machine over to Mac, but I had thought it was going to just be learning to find my way round the new OS.
Had really hoped all this sort of OS agro was in the Windows past....ah well...was obviously just a case of 'The Grass is greener on the other side' syndrom.
Well the new instal is now underway...at least I kept all the Software Update downloads
Thanks for the help
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