TIME MACHINE TAKES ME TO FIRST BACK UP AND LAST BUT NOTHING IN BETWEEN

I have a TM dedicated drive, nothing else is on it. I have back ups from November to now. I can't get the computer to stop at any back up except the very last or very first one. If I want anything in between, how do I get to it?

Firstly, which backups you can navigate to depends on what is open when you invoke Time Machine. Assuming you have a folder open which is definitely present in all backups (like your desktop folder) can you see a time line on the right of the browser window with short horizontal lines representing all the separate stored backups? Are you saying that you can't click on any of those lines (and have anything happen) except the Present and the earliest backup?

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I have a new WD my passport HD 2 GB for the time machine back-up. The first back-up of about 500GB takes 130 days!!! What is wrong?

Hi Davis,
Thanks for your help. Here is the requested data:
23.11.12 06:18:35.730 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Starting manual backup
23.11.12 06:18:35.815 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Backing up to: /Volumes/Ohne Titel/Backups.backupdb
23.11.12 06:18:35.817 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Ownership is disabled on the backup destination volume. Enabling.
23.11.12 06:18:37.014 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Forcing deep traversal on source: "Macintosh HD" (mount: '/' fsUUID: XXXXXXX
23.11.12 06:18:37.000 kernel[0]: USBF: 26123.665 AppleUSBEHCI[0xffffff802ac09000]::Found a transaction past the completion deadline on bus 0x24, timing out! (Addr: 5, EP: 1)
23.11.12 06:18:39.000 kernel[0]: process 3220 set trusted
71
23.11.12 06:18:49.000 kernel[0]: revoking trust for process 3212
72
23.11.12 06:18:50.506 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Backup content size: 520.05 GB excluded items size: 29.28 GB for volume Macintosh HD
23.11.12 06:18:50.507 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Found 1750359 files (490.78 GB) needing backup
23.11.12 06:18:50.508 com.apple.backupd[3216]: 588.94 GB required (including padding), 2 TB available
23.11.12 06:18:50.518 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Waiting for index to be ready (100)
23.11.12 06:19:09.000 kernel[0]: /SourceCache/AppleFSCompression_kexts/AppleFSCompression-49/Compressors/Datales s/compressorType5Kext.c:532: Error: post_request error for /Volumes/Ohne Titel/Backups.backupdb/Stefan iMac/2012-11-23-061837.inProgress/308E0330-60A2-4965-B673-44365BDDDB82/Macintos h HD/.DocumentRevisions-V100/PerUID/501/1/com.apple.documentVersions/C8C61715-47F 4-4015-9720-F3A835348460.pdf: 35
23.11.12 06:19:09.000 kernel[0]: decmpfs.c:1339:decmpfs_read_compressed: decmpfs_fetch_uncompressed_data err -35
45
23.11.12 06:20:10.114 mdworker[3223]: Unable to talk to lsboxd
35
23.11.12 06:20:10.181 sandboxd[3225]: ([3223]) mdworker(3223) deny mach-lookup com.apple.ls.boxd
26
23.11.12 06:20:10.000 kernel[0]: Sandbox: sandboxd(3225) deny mach-lookup com.apple.coresymbolicationd
19
23.11.12 06:22:10.254 Locum[3233]: Connection with distnoted server was invalidated
5
23.11.12 06:24:00.162 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[171]: (com.avira.antivirus.ipm.ui[3245]) Exited with code: 5
23.11.12 06:24:32.474 WindowServer[107]: CGXDisableUpdate: UI updates were forcibly disabled by application "Finder" for over 1.00 seconds. Server has re-enabled them.
23.11.12 06:24:33.581 WindowServer[107]: reenable_update_for_connection: UI updates were finally reenabled by application "Finder" after 2.11 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds)
23.11.12 06:27:30.717 WindowServer[107]: Created shield window 0x184 for display 0x04272d40
23.11.12 06:27:30.729 WindowServer[107]: device_generate_desktop_screenshot: authw 0x0(0), shield 0x0(0)
23.11.12 06:27:30.741 WindowServer[107]: device_generate_lock_screen_screenshot: authw 0x0(0), shield 0x0(0)
23.11.12 06:32:48.450 WindowServer[107]: handle_will_sleep_auth_and_shield_windows: no lock state data
23.11.12 06:33:22.908 uxipm_loader[3304]: CFPreferences: user home directory for user kCFPreferencesCurrentUser at /Users/_avipm is unavailable. User domains will be volatile.
23.11.12 06:33:26.029 lsregister[3306]: CFPreferences: user home directory for user kCFPreferencesCurrentUser at /Users/_avipm is unavailable. User domains will be volatile.
23.11.12 06:34:00.717 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[171]: (com.avira.antivirus.ipm.ui[3316]) Exited with code: 5
23.11.12 06:37:29.558 mdworker32[3325]: CGSGetDisplayBounds: Invalid display 0x00000000
23.11.12 06:37:29.601 mdworker32[3325]: bootstrap_look_up2 failed with 0x44c
23.11.12 06:37:44.722 sandboxd[3340]: ([3325]) mdworker32(3325) deny mach-lookup com.apple.PowerManagement.control (import fstype:hfs fsflag:4809018 flags:240000005E diag:0 uti:org.openxmlformats.spreadsheetml.sheet plugin:/Library/Spotlight/Microsoft Office.mdimporter - find suspect file using: sudo mdutil -t 230)
23.11.12 06:39:51.975 Safari[308]: CGContextClipToRect: invalid context 0x0
23.11.12 06:41:57.447 WindowServer[107]: Created shield window 0x189 for display 0x04272d40
23.11.12 06:41:57.448 WindowServer[107]: device_generate_desktop_screenshot: authw 0x0(0), shield 0x0(0)
23.11.12 06:41:57.460 WindowServer[107]: device_generate_lock_screen_screenshot: authw 0x0(0), shield 0x0(0)
23.11.12 06:42:27.327 mdworker32[3364]: bootstrap_look_up2 failed with 0x44c
23.11.12 06:42:27.720 sandboxd[3387]: ([3364]) mdworker32(3364) deny mach-lookup com.apple.PowerManagement.control (import fstype:hfs fsflag:4809018 flags:240000005E diag:0 uti:com.microsoft.excel.xls plugin:/Library/Spotlight/Microsoft Office.mdimporter - find suspect file using: sudo mdutil -t 503)
23.11.12 06:42:37.371 WindowServer[107]: handle_will_sleep_auth_and_shield_windows: no lock state data
23.11.12 06:42:58.167 WebProcess[3392]: objc[3392]: Object 0x7fced0c1cab0 of class NSUserDefaults autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking - break on objc_autoreleaseNoPool() to debug
23.11.12 06:42:58.178 WebProcess[3392]: objc[3392]: Object 0x7fced0c1cab0 of class NSUserDefaults autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking - break on objc_autoreleaseNoPool() to debug
23.11.12 06:43:55.148 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[171]: (com.avira.antivirus.ipm.ui[3400]) Exited with code: 5
23.11.12 06:46:29.038 Dock[185]: no information back from LS about running process
23.11.12 06:47:17.115 fseventsd[46]: Events arrived for /Volumes/Ohne Titel after an unmount request! Re-initializing.
23.11.12 06:47:17.115 fseventsd[46]: creating a dls for /Volumes/Ohne Titel but it already has one...
23.11.12 06:47:17.125 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Stopping backup to allow backup destination disk to be unmounted or ejected.
23.11.12 06:47:24.908 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Copied 1873 files (288.9 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.
23.11.12 06:47:26.133 com.apple.backupd[3216]: Backup canceled.

How do i get the music from my iphone to my new mac? it says it backed up and synced but nothing shows up in my itunes library!

it says it backed up and synced but nothing shows up in my itunes library!! please help!

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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1751

Time Machine ERROR: Cannot complete FIRST back up

Hello all.
This is my sis's Mac mini, there was apparently a file or system corruption somewhere that it was not able to boot up, so send in for rescue and the tech was able to rescue all the users' data (sis & dad's)
So Mac mini came home, I reformat the hard disk, ran Disk Utility check and everything OK, and install Leopard 10.5 and iLife 08, and updated them all. Newly-installed apps like Messenger and Skype etc, Time Machine was running OK till now.
Then I started to move my sis's data (user) into the new folders - data of Mail, iTunes, iPhoto, Safari, etc. And TM starts to back up also, and here's where the problem begins:
Time Machine fails to complete back up and give this message:
_Time Machine Error_
Unable to complete backup. An error occurred while copying files to the backup volume. (OK button)
Now this is quite obvious one or more files from the old user folder must be corrupted or "simply bad" that creating this problem. I am suspecting it may be the same problem that was preventing me from previously backing up using SuperDuper while the mini was still in Tiger.
Is there a log file somewhere I can examine to find out which file to delete and not back up? Because the only other way is the start the mac afresh, but I am sure my sis wants her data back.
Thanks and cheers

I seem to be experiencing the exact same issue.
1. I wiped my internal and external HDs and formatted them as MacOS X Extended (Journaled), as per instructions on Support Article: TS1550, with the correct partition schemes for a PowerPC processor.
2. I re-installed MacOS X Leopard from DVD onto the internal HD, created a new admin account, ran Software Update to add all the patches. Re-installed all third party software.
3. I re-created my user account using files restored from a DVD backup.
4. Computer works well, just the same as it always did, except Time Machine cannot complete the first backup.
I have added the +Time Machine Buddy+ widget and got the following report log:
Starting standard backup
Backing up to: /Volumes/Iomega HDD/Backups.backupdb
Event store UUIDs don't match for volume: Macintosh HD
Backup content size: 136.9 GB excluded items size: 311.7 MB for volume Macintosh HD
No pre-backup thinning needed: 163.95 GB requested (including padding), 931.15 GB available
Waiting for index to be ready (-911 < 0)
Error: (-36) SrcErr:NO Copying /Applications/Address Book.app/Contents/MacOS/Address Book to /Volumes/Iomega HDD/Backups.backupdb/David Bailey’s iMac G5/2009-02-08-194015.inProgress/C9E9C68B-9FD6-474C-A2E0-BD60ADF3C011/Macintosh HD/Applications/Address Book.app/Contents/MacOS
Stopping backup.
Error: (-8062) SrcErr:NO Copying /Applications/Address Book.app/Contents/MacOS/Address Book to /Volumes/Iomega HDD/Backups.backupdb/David Bailey’s iMac G5/2009-02-08-194015.inProgress/C9E9C68B-9FD6-474C-A2E0-BD60ADF3C011/Macintosh HD/Applications/Address Book.app/Contents/MacOS
Copied 0 files (1.2 MB) from volume Macintosh HD.
Copy stage failed with error:11
Backup failed with error: 11
The external HD is an Iomega MiniMax 1TB Firewire/USB Hub HDD.
The computer is an iMac G5 1.8GHz (no iSight) with 1GB RAM.
I'm guessing that there is something weird with the Address Book app that is stopping the backup. The app itself launches and runs fine, and also syncs with MobileMe fine.
Any ideas?

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How long is Time Machine supposed to take to back up a 1 TB hard drive? It's telling me 30 days! Is that normal?

How much data is on the 1TB hard drive? Is it full? Also, what type of external drive are you using?
Regardless it def. should not take that long. Stop it, make sure all the SW is up to date and then give it another go.
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My files say off line or missing. Its happened before and then I plug in my harddrive and their there. This time that didnt happen. I powered down and rebooted but nothing happened.

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You could start by telling us your operating system, and version of Lightroom.
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I started using Time Machine on my 17" MBP about a month ago. I was using a 250 GB Samsung drive. When I discovered that TM will back up other external drives (I have several firewire pocket drives), I purchased a 500 GB Cavalry drive with USB 2.0 and eSATA connections. The first backup of my MBP drive (about 85 GB) took several hours (4-6?). I backed up one of my pocket drives (about 60 GB), which took 3-4 hours. Then, when I changed the back-up drive in Time Machine to the new 500 GB drive with the eSATA connection, I stopped it after an hour, because only 2 GB had been backed up. I erased the drive and restarted using the USB connection. It backed up 3 GB in an hour. So, now I'm back to using the original back-up drive. I've performed benchmark tests on all drives (the Samsung 250, Cavalry USB and eSATA 500 GB, and the MBP internal drive) with Xbench. The USB speeds on the Samsung and Cavalry drives came out about the same with a slight edge to the Cavalry drive. The eSATA connection with the Cavalry drive operated at over twice the speed of the USB connections and at about twice the speed of the MBP internal drive (which is a 1.5 Gb/s SATA drive). Basically, I can't figure out why Time Machine takes so incredibly long to back up when I switched to the new drive. Any ideas?
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I recommend the following.
1. Reset the TC to factory.
Universal Factory Reset.. any model TC or AE.
Unplug your TC/AE from power or turn off at the power point.
Hold in reset. and power the TC/AE back on.. all without releasing reset and keep holding in for about 10sec. (this is often difficult without a 2nd person or a 3rd arm).
Release it when the status light flashes rapidly. If it doesn’t flash rapidly you have missed it and try again.
Note..
Be Gentle! Feel the switch click on. It has a positive feel.. add no more pressure after that.
TC/AE will reboot after a couple of minutes with default factory settings and will wipe out previous configurations of the router.
No files are deleted on the hard disk in a TC.. No reset of the TC deletes files.. to do that you use erase from the airport utility.
2. Rename the TC to SMB standard.
That means short names.. 2-20 characters but less than 10 is excellent. eg TCGenx (use number for x that is actual generation of the TC)
No spaces.
Pure alphanumeric. No apostrophe.
3. Ensure IPv6 is set to link-local..
Do the same thing for ethernet if that is used.
4. Manually mount the TC disk in Finder.
Use Go in the top menu.. connect to server.
Type in
AFP://TCname.local (where TCname is your new short name for the TC and local is default domain .. it helps using the domain I found).
You will then find the computer either can or cannot find the network resource.. if it fails something else is wrong with the actual network and you will need to fix that.
It will request the password if it is found.. password is public by default unless you changed it.. type in the password and check to keep it in your keychain.
5. Delete current TM setup and redo it with the newly named TC.
See A4 here. http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
If your backups cannot be found, try B6 again, now that you actually know that the disk has been properly discovered.

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Hi, and welcome to the forums.
Time Machine keeps copies of everything on your system (except a few things like system work files, most caches and logs, and trash), so the first backup will be a bit smaller than the amount of data on your system.
Subsequent backups will copy things you've added or changed, but doesn't delete the copies of the old versions, or of things you've deleted, so you can restore them if you find you've deleted or changed something in error, or something has gotten corrupted. Thus Time Machine will need considerably more space. IIn most cases, it won't delete it's copies until it runs out of room.
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Hey guys,
First I wanna apologize if this has been addressed, I tried looking for it with no avail. Anyway, I had set up a NAS using my router, but it was formatted in NTFS so my Windows 8 laptop can use it as well.
Well after learning about the OWC SSD upgrade for the Macbook Pro Retina I decided that maybe I should purchase it, but I'll need to create a Time Machine back up so if I wanna restore it to the new SSD I can do so easily. I'm still unsure about the entire process, but I hope to learn it before I progress. I talked with both Apple and OWC and turns out this upgrade doesn't void any warranties, either from Apple care or origninal warranty as long as it's installed properly.
Anyway, after transferring everything from my external HDD to my SSD, I reformatted it to Mac Journaled then transferred everything back to the external HDD. Then I started my time machine backup.
After that completed, I unplugged it and carried on with my day. After restarting my computer I looked at my storage space and to my shock and dismay, I had over 100 GBs being taken up for 'backups' on my primary SSD and I couldn't figure out how to get rid of it.
By luck I turned off time machine and turned it back on and all that space was given back to me. I did another time machine backup several hours later and noticed 40 GBs were take up. Did the same thing (turning off and back on time machine) and the space was returned to me.
Basically why is this happening? Why is my internal SSD storing backups? Is this normal, should I ignore it and the system will remove this as needed? Or is it common practice to turn off and on the time machine to return that space back to me.
Thanks for the help and deeper understanding.
vahdyx

It's normal. Time Machine now stores local snapshots on portable Macs. The space used by backups is only used if there's space to do so - if you need the space for other file storage, they will be automatically deleted.
Matt

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I have nothing excluded in Time Machine Preferences.
My backup external drive failed about a year ago: I replaced it and backups continued.
Had to restore an application recently: found the applications folder in Time Machine was empty, however far back I went.
Does Time Machine know that I replaced the backup drive? If not, perhaps /applications has not been backed up since nothing has changed since I replaced the drive - ? But I have been told that the backup information is stored on the backup drive, so Time Machine should know that the drive was replaced and do a full backup as the first one - ?
If that is the problem, how do I force Time Machine to do a full backup?

the last iPhone update said that it "significantly reduced" the back-up time for the iPhone, and for a while it did. I've noticed it get steadily longer and longer to where now i am having the same issue you are, it taking forever to backup even if it's just a standard sync. It's possible that the different applications that are on the phone, especially if they take a lot of memory and/or use a lot of the phone's RAM may cause the backup to take a lot longer than intended, but that's just my guess.

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Hi, I recently purchased a new 3TB backup drive to backup my iMac system (10.9.4).
I set up a Time Machine backup of my system + external HD, and began scheduled backups about a week ago. As expected the first backup took several hours (overnight) since it was backing up nearly 1TB of data. Subsequent backups were fast and everything seemed fine.
Then, last night I ran a backup and Time Machine began to copy ALL the data again. The backup took 6-7 hours. Why would it do this if it uses a cumulative system where most of the data is already on the backup drive? Did this occur because I manually started the backup (by selecting"Back Up Now" in Time Machine on the toolbar). Or is something wrong?
Thanks
Tom

Open Time Machine Preferences>click "Select Disk">click on the appropriate TM disk under the bottom window titled "Available Disks." Force a backup and see if it works. If this doesn't fix it reboot your iMac and/or Time Capsule and try forcing a backup again once the iMac and/or TC have fully booted up.

Since installing Lion, I have not been able to utilize Time Machine (does not recognize the back-up drive); my wireless mouse does not function properly; I have experienced unreasonable delays in the system. Is there a fix or upgrade coming?

Is there a fix or upgrade to deal with the many problems I am experiencing since I installed Lion? I can no longer utilize Time Machine (Does not see the back-up drive); my wireless mouse does not work properly; my iMac has slowed down considerably. I am reminded of having a PC machine again. Bummer!

Either downgrade to Snow Leopard or try reinstalling Lion.
Reinstalling Lion Without the Installer
Boot to the Recovery HD: Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alterhatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions: Upon startup select Disk Utility from the main menu. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions as follows.
When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu.
Reinstall Lion: Select Reinstall Lion and click on the Continue button.
Note: You can also re-download the Lion installer by opening the App Store application. Hold down the OPTION key and click on the Purchases icon in the toolbar. You should now see an active Install button to the right of your Lion purchase entry. There are situations in which this will not work. For example, if you are already booted into the Lion you originally purchased with your Apple ID or if an instance of the Lion installer is located anywhere on your computer.
Downgrade Lion to Snow Leopard
1. Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Quit DU and return to the installer. Install Snow Leopard.
This will erase the whole drive so be sure to backup your files if you don't have a backup already. If you have performed a TM backup using Lion be aware that you cannot restore from that backup in Snow Leopard (see below.) I suggest you make a separate backup using Carbon Copy Cloner 3.4.1.
If you have Snow Leopard Time Machine backups, do a full system restore per #14 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions. If you have subsequent backups from Lion, you can restore newer items selectively, via the "Star Wars" display, per #15 there, but be careful; some Snow Leopard apps may not work with the Lion files.

Where are my photos? just tried to access time capsule after my first back up and am unable to open iphoto to verify they were backed up.

where are my photos? just tried to access time capsule after my first back up and am unable to open iphoto to verify they were backed up.

You can't open your backups directly with apps.
But you can see some types of files in your backups. If you're still on Snow Leopard (or Lion with iPhoto '09 or earlier), see the gray box at the end of Time Machine - Frequently Asked Question #15.
If you're on Lion with iPhoto '11, you can use the Finder to see the iPhoto library, per the beginning of that same link. All you can see there is the library and size.

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