Time machine to 2 places

Now that Time Machine can backup to 2 different places.  Is it possible to some files on only one of the BU's or will the settings be identicle on both backups?
Roger

It is identical to both Roger!!

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    Can I use Time Capsule for Time Machine and a place to put my iPhoto Library?

    Only if you partition the Time Capsure into two partitions, one for TM and one for the iPhoto LIbrary.  But you won't be able to backup that library as it will be on the same drive as the TM backups.
    It's not recommended.  An alternative solution is to get another EHD, move the library to it and run it from there. Then TM can backup both your boot drive and the working EHD drive.
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  • Time Machine FAIL (again)

    I don't have a question here: just want to share my experience, because I don't have a blog and writing is more therapeutic than banging my head against a wall.
    Yesterday, I need to use MS Excel to work on some spreadsheets in order to do my taxes.  If course, my version of MS doesn't work with Lion, but I think I'm so smart because I have a backup startup drive, which runs 10.5.  So I restart in Leopard, and before I even open my documents I see the Time Machine clock start to turn.  Whoops--I don't want to up this old OS!  What if it interferes with the main Lion Time Machine?  I go to stop it as quickly as I can, but I still see the Horizontal Barbershop Pole spinning for a while.  Finally it gives me the error message "Time Machine cannot complete backup. 1.27 TB required, 90 GB available" (or something to that effect--I didn't write it down).  I go back to Excel, finish my work, and keep my fingers crossed that this little hiccup didn't corrupt my system.
    Next morning, I spin up the computer (using Lion).  On schedule, Time Machine starts its work...only it doesn't get too far.  I get the same message I saw earlier about "1.27 TB required, 90 GB available."  Great--it's trying to create a whole new backup.  So, I come to these forums and start poking around for help, start drafting up a question, then go back to TM Prefs and notice that it says the last backup is from yesterday at 4 pm.  That's just before I restarted in 10.5 and this whole issue began.  So I figure I'll just go into Time Machine and restore from that point and we should all be good....right?
    Unfortunately, when I open Time Machine, all I see is "Now."  No way to go further back in time because there's nothing there.  Now, this is puzzling....maybe when I went to 10.5, for some reason Time Machine lost its reference to the sparsebundle.  I go back to Prefs, check the selected disk, and that seems right....still showing 90 GB of 2 TB available.  I go to the Finder, open the Time Capsule, and find three .sparsebundles: one for my MacBook Pro, which looks intact (360 GB in size); one that was created yesterday at 5 PM, which totals 460 MB (presumably that was created when 10.5 attempted to create a new backup); and one that was last modified yesterday at 4, which is....3.6 GB?  Hold on, let's do some math:
    360 GB + 3.6 GB + (406 MB = 0.406 GB) = 364.006 GB visible in Finder
    2 TB = 2000 GB
    If 90 GB available, then 2000 GB - 90 = 1910 GB used, according to TM Prefs
    What happened to 1.546 TB of backup data?
    As I sit and ponder whether I'm losing my mind, or if my math is actually better than my computer's (which is actually the most comforting thought of the day), the TM icon starts spinning again.  I'm fully expecting the same "not enough space" message...but instead, it starts backing up.  Only, it's doing a full backup: right now, the progress meter reads "91.07 GB of 1.27 TB - About a day."  No going back now--several months of history, now Gone.
    (You may be asking yourself: your progress meter is already at 91 GB?  Wow, your Time Machine backs up fast!  Not really--I'd just gotten about this far in this post when Safari crashed.  Granted, I had a bunch of other windows open--because I still have to, y'know, work--including a bunch of sites that are heavy with HTML5 animations and whatnot.  Safari opened back up with all those same windows open--yay Lion!--only, the window into which I'd been typing this post was back at the login screen--boo Lion.)
    Anyway--now, I'm awaiting the Time Machine Backup and keeping my fingers crossed that I don't have to go back and retrieve any old files.  (Note to self--never rely on Time Machine as a versioning tool.)  In the Finder, I'm looking at those .sparsebundles again, and something odd is going on: there are still the same three .sparsebundles: "My MacBook Pro," "My Computer," and "My Computer (2)_0017f2092828."  "My Computer.sparsebundle" is the one that was listed at 3.6 GB before the full backup began; now it's listed at 1.49 TB.  It still claims to be last modified at 4 PM yesterday.  "My Computer (2)_0017f2092828.sparsebundle" is still 406 MB, but it was last modified....one minute ago.  From this, I'd infer that the 1.27 TB Time Machine Backup is somehow affecting the smaller file....but its size isn't increasing.  Presumably, it's actually writing into the larger file, but why the modification date isn't changing is a mystery.  No sense worrying about this right now....
    If you're still reading and still interested, I still need to rant.  This whole thing began so innocently.  I resisted upgrading to Lion because I'd heard (read) the griping and I was pretty happy with Snow Leopard anyway.  But about 7 weeks ago (when I was still on SL), I decided I'd put together a calendar for my wife for her birthday.  I fire up iPhoto, put together this beautiful calendar filled with pictures of us and the kids, and click "order."  Only I'm notified that I can't order the calendar from this version of iPhoto--I need to upgrade.  (What?  Why would you put the order button there--why have a Calendar feature at all--if you can't order it?)  I can't even export the calendar I spent so much time creating (my first thought, because I've put together calendars on my MacBook before).  So I visit the App Store.  I can plunk down $15 to upgrade to the latest version of iPhoto, or for just $15 more I can upgrade to Lion.
    Now, I don't enter into this lightly.  Lion has been out for something like 7 months and I've held out till now.  But I figure by now, they've probably figured out most of the bugs, and besides I'm in the tech industry so it helps to get familiar with the newest and coolest.  OK, let's do this thing....
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    That calendar I ordered that started this whole thing?  Saved the comments and photos in the new and "improved" iPhoto, but didn't save the formatting.  When it arrived, there were several pictures in which heads were cut off because the default cropping was applied.
    What happened to the month column in iCal?  Why would anybody want to get rid of it?
    Microsoft doesn't work, of course.  I didn't think this would bug me, but I miss it.  And several other apps don't work either...Adobe CS3, among others.  Should I downgrade back to Snow Leopard?  Maybe.  But wait, there's more....
    Two weeks after the upgrade, just when I'm seriously considering downgrading, I get this message: "Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you." Like a good little monkey, I come to these forums to figure out what this means and how to get my backups working again...only to find that, well, TM is screwed.  I could browse and retrieve data from existing backups, but couldn't make any new ones.  According to Pondini and anybody else who's gone through this, I would have to erase all existing backups and start from scratch.  So I went ahead and chose "Start New Backup," and after about three days of maddening errors (".sparsebundles" turned into ".purgeables"....progress bars that never made any progress....complete system freeze, requiring manual restart...) I finally have a new Time Machine backup in place.
    Now, I want to downgrade to Snow Leopard more than ever.  But my previous system has disappeared from Time Machine (not once but twice!), and all the posts I've read about downgrading without TM seem to require wiping the drive clean and installing fresh.  I'm fortunate that I have most of my data on a separate drive from the system, but I'm nervous about making the change: I'm doubtful that everything will go back to the way it was, especially the stuff that I've done in Lion (and iCal, iTunes, iPhoto) over the last couple months.
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    Cheers, may the force, &c.,
    tw

    Only a quick note to tell you that I too am frustrated with my Mac expereince after being a user since the mid-90's. I bought a new Air and had enough issue with it that I gave in an bought a Pro and will be selling myA Air. It's better for me, but I gotta tell you...still having all sorts of problems - most all stemming from Time Machine. Gaaah! Best of luck!

  • Time machine backup on network drive

    i have a netgear router with readyshare usb network drive i have a 2TB external hdd that i use for a central location to view files for both my imac 10.7.5 and multiple pc's windows 7 i currently have a external hdd connected to my imac just for time machine however this is only 320gb not large enough. was wondering if i could somehow make an alias of my current time machine bacup and place it in my network drive so that my backup would use this space too or  maybe even make this time machine drive larger? or if i delete the connected time machine drive will the alias still be as is? i understand that i can just create a partition however if i understand the process correctly this would erase my files and the only option would be ExFat format from imac for windows then i would make and extended journal for use with time machine. i am not sure i want to do this because i dont know if i could reformat the disk with the default software still on thie 2TB drive. also i dont know if i could use it with all my pc's and imac. currently i can transfer files to either computer.

    I have the exact same problem, but I am not using TM over a network... Only my local Mac Pro w/ a 600gb external drive. I recall back when I first got Leopard that time machine did in fact ask me if I wanted it to delete old backups after the drive filled up. Then one day it randomly decided to not delete old backups anymore... Instead displaying the same error message you get.
    Can anyone help? (Besides telling me not to back up certain files, and to do it less often. Those are BS solutions! I want my entire HD backed up every time automatically erasing old backups when necessary. Is that too much to ask for?)

  • Manage multiple Time Machines

    I have about 10 users with Macs.
    Is there any application/tool I can use to manage all of their Time Machines in one place?
    I'd love to be able to see success/failure of their backups.

    jcolinger3 wrote:
    I have about 10 users with Macs.
    Is there any application/tool I can use to manage all of their Time Machines in one place?
    I'd love to be able to see success/failure of their backups.
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    You might, however, be able to something with Automator or Applescript. TM keeps a hidden XML file with the results of the latest backup; you could have a job on each Mac that periodically sends a copy to a central location (or a central job that could go get it on demand), then extracts what you want.
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    There are probably some alternatives, but that's the one that comes to mind.

  • What exactly is Time Machine?

    I am fairly new to Apple sytems and software having progressed from PC to iPad and now to Pro Mac Laptop.. A lot of times in passing Apple, whether at their store or in emails talk about things like Time Machine and Thunder something or other and lot of other lingo and I really do not know what they are talking about. The literature available on websites does not go into sufficient detail to tell me exactly what these things are so I can evaualte whether I need them or not.  Can anyone direct me to where I can learn some of this stuff?

    This Time Machine Tutorial should answer you questions. If you are serious about backing up Time Machine is good place to start. However in backup it's wise to have redundancy if you are serious about backing up. A popular method of redundant backup in addition to Time Machine is creating a Bootable Clone on another EHD. Both Carbon Copy Cloner & SuperDuper! will backup by creating Bootable Clones. Many people on these forums (including myself) use both TM and a Bootable Clone, I happen to use SD however many are very happy with CCC. Basic rules of thumb are
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  • Airport extreme with time machine

    Airport extreme with time machine bought in September 2007 can it be reformatted to use as a back up drive for other than time machine and how.  It is 1TB but can only seem to get two disk images of e

    Airport extreme with time machine
    This sounds like you have a Time Capsule, correct?
    can it be reformatted to use as a back up drive for other than time machine
    You can place other type of files and folders on the Time Capsule hard drive. No additional formatting is required for this.
    and how
    Use the Finder to click on the Time Capsule under the SHARED heading on the left side of a Finder window
    Click on the Time Capsule icon, then double click on the folder named "Data" (unless you have renamed the drive), and "Data" will mount on the desktop.
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  • Can I exclude places.sqlite from time machine backup?

    Hi,
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    Or say, if each of my places.sqlite in the prevoius backups was like 90MB, how much size would them really take in the storage?

    Alvyn wrote:
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  • A week or so ago I upgraded some apple software and now Safari drops my news bookmarks folder. I can restore it from Time Machine but it will not stay in place. Suggestions?

    My iMac, running 10.10.3 seems to have an interesting issue.  Since the last round of apple updates[ including photos 1.0]safari has been dropping my "News" bookmarks folder.  It disappears on restart or when trying to add a bookmark to any folder. I am able to restore it with time machine and it will stay in place until all of a sudden .I notice it is once again gone.  Restore and its back.  Quite a pain in the butt.  Any suggestions on a more permanent fix would be appreciated.

    Thanks, wife has iPad on holiday so I could not check it. iCloud occurred to me but I am fairly new to it as prior to iPad we had no need of it.  Thanks again Linc,   I've tried it a couple of times this afternoon and it seems to be sticking around.  Hugh

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    I can't seem to get the 10.7.4 update to work. It constantly freezing at the "moving items into place" phase. I let it run overnight and it's still frozen. I have to restore from time machine backup each time. Any help appreciated.

    this is somethinng like the third post i have read about that update causing troubles...
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  • Time Machine loses place

    This is frustrating!!! Time Machine has lost its place three times. It can't find the backup disk. The only way to reconnect that I can find is to then choose "Change Disk". I then select the disk it could not find and Time Machine ignores the previous backups and starts a new full back-up, which at 130 GB is a long back up Why does it ignore the existing back up files? Any one know how to insure it sees the back up files if it doesn't find the back up disk first time? Or, does any one know why it might be losing the disk location in the first place? The disk is connected through the USB port on the back of the Airport Extreme. Thanks for any help.

    Take a look at my posts regarding faster initial backup for disks connected via Airport extreme.
    [http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1717196]
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    Let us know if this helps.
    Cheers!

  • Time Machine didnt back up "places"

    i thought time machine was to keep a copy of your hard drive. I accidentally took my downloads folder out of the dock...it went poof and now its gone out of my places.
    I started up time machine and the downloads place is no where to be found. what happened? can i get my downloads folder back or do i have to make a new, plain folder? (the old one had the default down arrow for the download folder)

    See my reply to your other post: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7015484#7015484

  • How do I get my Time Machine to appear as a disk in the Finder (wireless) and where do I find the place to assign TM ports to a NAS (Pogoplug v.4). Runnig 10.7 Lion on iMac. Thanks

    I am trying to set up Pogoplug Series4 as a NAS attached to my Time Machine router. The TM does not appear as a drive in the Finder and I cannot locate it to assign ports to the PP device. Running 10.7 on an iMac. Time Machine and Time Capsule work fine for backup and internet, I just cannot find it.
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    After I posted the question, I finally figured out that I needed to open the necessary ports to allow the Pogoplug website to communicate  with my computer. After navigating to the proper area (in Airport Utility) and authorizing  the ports, it seems to work. The Pogoplug device is neither as easy, intuitive or plug-and-play is it claims to be. We will see if it was worth the effort.
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  • If I filled the system hard drive, and I'll delete anything on it, it's off and on the external drive, or can I safely clean the system hard drive and all that was done in the Time Machine in the same place, on an external hard drive and will remain ?

    Please help

    Time Machine does delete "old" backups, eventually.  "Eventually" is controlled by whether or not you have used all of the space on the TM drive.  If you have "more free space" on the TM drive, then nothing should be deleted yet.
    If youd elete files from a system drive, and continue on the same TM set, TM does NOT scour all old records to purge missing files ... else the "time" part of "Time Machine" makes no sense.

  • How might I move my Time Machine Backups.backupdb file to a partition on a different drive to enable reformatting the drive it is on, so that might put it back in place later?

    I have an external drive I use as my Time Machine backup location.
    Recently, I started getting an error on it.  It tells me there is a problem, and to repair it with Disk Utility.  Disk Utility cannot verify the disk, and needs me to repair it, but it cannot repair it. It advises me to copy all of the important files from this disk to another location, and then reformat the drive.
    So, I have copied all of the files that were not part of the Backups.backupdb folder structure to a partition on another disk, and removed them from the defecting drive, leaving ~250GB of files in the Time Machine backups files.
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    What do I do?

    A Time Machine backup is owned by TM.. this is standard kind of issue.. the very fact that you cannot copy it suggests it is corrupt.. or you cannot change permissions on the whole file.. let me assure you the way TM works.. what you have so far copied is completely useless.
    Have you run a verify of the backup??
    The fact that disk utility is not working means something is wrong.. it should be able to fix a drive..
    And the fact the drive is only 12-18months old is also not relevant.. the present state of the drive is too poor to be considered reliable.
    What type of drive is it.. ie USB2 USB3 and what brand??
    It is not just the disk that can go bad but the controller/power supply as well.. and some brands seem to have bad batches.. eg seagate USB drives I was seeing recently.
    I prefer drives where I buy a shell and put the drive into it.. so I can move the drive to another shell without breaking warranty (or the case).
    The actual command for terminal I always just look up when I want to do them.. I am getting old and I have no space left for command line stuff.. although it was all there in the past.
    eg today I hit. http://www.cnet.com/au/news/using-the-os-x-terminal-instead-of-the-finder-to-cop y-files/
    This includes the rsync command.. lets try this one..
    I can copy my downloads directory to a time capsule disk. I start with login as super user just to make sure I don't have permissions issues.. you should definitely do this. running rsync is great as it will give you info when it fails and it will do incremental if you run it again later. You construct the command by simply dragging the folder from finder into terminal and slightly modifying it as per the article above.. So my actual command as I am copying deliberately to a new folder on the TC.. You don't want files to land on the root.. even if it creates another folder.
    $ sudo su
    Password:
    sh-3.2# rsync -av /Users/Ray/Downloads/* /Volumes/DataTCgen3/downloads/
    building file list ... done
    #A 12v25v Descrip.doc
    $T2eC16V,!)!E9s2fB+iqBQNKwsSzpQ~~60_3.JPG
    $_12.JPG
    0198f23d9wahwkzzsf20dk15czcy.pdf
    0340039AINETCNCTKGS.PDF
    I have 60GB or so in this folder and it is copying at about 20MB/s over ethernet.. so it is not super fast.. but there is probably some error checking going on at the same time.

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