Time Machine won't back up to internal Drive through AFP?

Hi All!
Heres my Problem.
I have a Mac Pro system with 4 Hard Drives installed inside the internal Bays. I wish to use one for Time Machine for the Clients.
On the clients i get the error about it not having the correct AFP version. (I know this is a common problem within Lion).
Although surely if the hard drive is inside a Mac Pro Server running Lion then the client should be able to back up through it to its INTERNAL drive.
Or does this still count as NAS?
Thoughts?
Dan

We are going to need more information from you in order to help.
What kind of hard drive is this?
How is it formatted?
Where is it connected? Directly to your Mac?
How is it connected? USB? Firewire?
What have you tried so far?
What error messages have you received?

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