Time Management Concepts

Hi All,
i am new to SAP-HR and i need some basic clarifications i searched the forum before posting but i am getting a exactly correct answer that is why i am posting it
why we need time management component?
what is Shift Planning?
What is Work schedule ?
what is time evaluation?
and how these components are integrated in the time management module .
please answer in the very layman language i am confused with the help.sap document.

Hi,
why we need time management component?
Employees' time data maintained in Time management is transferred to payroll to calculate employees pay.
what is Shift Planning?
Here you can assign shift times, locations and the number of required employees for the enterprise.
What is Work schedule ?
Work schedule defines the working pattern of the employees.
what is time evaluation?
Employee's time data is valuated in time evaluation. It determines planned working time, overtime, create wage types like overtime or bonus wage types.
Hope it helps. If more clarification needed let me know.
regards,
kalyani

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Time management

Hi Gurus,
I am trying to understand Time management concepts, pls help me on the following -
1) what is factory calendar, and special rules in factory calendar, and how is it different from holiday calendar.Is factory calendar applicable only to factories or to normal organisations under any circumstances?
2) I am trying to understand reference time in defining dynamic breaks in break schedules and i came across planned working time and normal working time. What is the difference between planned working time and normal working time?
thanks
Kavita

Kavitha
there is smthg called special rules on Factory calendar, pls check and if possible pls help me understand special rules in factory calendar.....have awarded points for ur guidance
*I BELIVE SPECIAL RULE FOR PM AND PP Module not for HR. any way thanks for asking i got new point*
*see example here*
*You do that using a special rule for the calendar. SCAL is the transaction code. Click the Maintain button then select the Factory calendar radio button and press the change (pencil) button.*
*Select your calendar then press the change (pencil) button again. Click on the Special rules button then the Create button (paper). Enter the From and To date(s) [same date if only one day] then if it WILL be a work day check the Workday field and you will need to enter Text.*
*If, for example, the day is a normal workday and you want to shut down for that date (or date range), this time leave the Workday check box empty.*
*Click the paper button when you're done entering the data then the save button (or the F-11 key). You're done.*
*This is configuration data therefore configuration for SCAL and SCA6_U must be allowed in your profile.*
also can u help me with the DWS class concept, i know DWS class 0 is for off days but what abt others 1-9, are they customer specific, and where are the DWS classes defined, i mean table name.
*DWS. 0 (work paid)*
          *1-- Off--paid*
          2Offunpaid
          3 off--special day and
          4 to 9 are customer specific are the days types.
Hope you got clarity with this
Best Regards

UNABLE TO GET SALARY BASED ON HOURS ( POSITVE TIME MANAGMENT )

Hi Vivek,
Your document was great.
I am implementing positive time management and at present i am entering the clock in and clock-out in IT-2011 manually for testing and when i run PT60 using TM00 schema it was not showing any errors but data in 'ZL' it was showing as no entries.
And to cross check i have executed 'PC00_M40_CALC' but the payroll was caluclated based on no. of days( negative tm).
I am new to TM concept please help me out.
Thanks,
Saikrishna.

Hi,
Here are some answers/comments to your question above.
1. You should not make any changes in schema TM00 (Standard SAP Schema) - copy this to a custom schema (ZM00) in transaction PE01 and add logic/make changes in this custom schema.
2. Entries will not automatically be created in the ZL table just because you have IT2011 (Table TEVEN) entries. ZL entries are created either through PCR logic, or via table T510S (Wage type generation) entries. These are both very complex Time Management concepts that require a lot of studying and understanding in order to take raw data and generate the appropriate wage types at the appropriate time. This is important because based upon raw clock in and clock out's alone the system does not know if it should generate regular hours, overtime, double time, holiday pay etc - you have to do the configuration to tell the system what to generate and when to generate it.
3. As far as your issue within the payroll driver (Basic Salary being created on the basis of number of date) - I believe this could be based upon either wage type setup or your Pay Scale configuration and this associate's Infotype 8. You probably have him setup like a salaried associate. Check the following area in the IMG Personnel Management --> Personnel Administration --> Payroll Data --> Basic Pay
Good luck on your journey to learning SAP Time Management/SAP Payroll.
Thanks,
Imran

Database Entity Manager Concept

Hello Forte-Users,
currently I work with the Concept of the White-Paper:
Forte Database Integration Patterns
Forte Consulting
May 1996
to integrate Database-Access into my Warehouse-Application.
Because the hole Application is delivered step by step and we are new
in using Forte, I use for the first step only the patterns described for
the DBEntityMgr to get a "feeling".
The problem is, that if I use the DBEntityMgr-Concept and have many
BaseClasses to access I have a lot of interface-calls like
GetCustomer,GetProducts,etc..
The Database Session Router will also not solve this "problem" in future,
because the
ApplicationEntityMgr has than the same problem.
Question: Know anyone a way, based on the upon described facilities to use
this strategy with a solution to make more "EntityMgrSO's" to get a smaller
DBEntityMgr-Interface?
The Database Session Router is planed for using when the Application should
be used from more Users and when running the SO's on a WorkGroup-Server.
Question: Know anyone a way there to split the ApplicationEntityMgr?
Every reply is welcome.
Thanks forward to all
Joseph Mirwald
Bachmeier & Sporrer
GERMANY
EMAIL: [email protected]
Don't worry, which bug you wanna have today?

...snip
>> The bad part is that now, the "client" of the entity manager
must know
>> which entity manger to call for any particular set of
data. This negates
>> a significant part of the advantage of using the single
interface into the
>> persistence layer.
snip ...
[KUBASADA Manjunatha] We can avoid this problem by having the
EntityMgrSO method determine which entity manager to use. The client can
pass a parameter indicating which object to get. The client call would
look like,
myobject = EntityMgrSO.GetEntity(myobjectindicator);
OR
EnitytMgrSO.GetEntity(output myobj : object);
In the second case, the GetEntity method uses the run time type
of myobj to determine which entity manager to call. In both cases the
EntityMgrSO returns an object of type Object; the client would have to
cast it to the appropriate type.
Don, are there any downsides to this approach ?
Manjunatha Kubasada
Complete Business Solutions Inc.
email : [email protected]
Ph : (248) 488-2088 X 3480
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Nelson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 4:05 PM
To: Joseph Mirwald
Cc: forte-users
Subject: Re: Database Entity Manager Concept
Joeseph,
The concept of the entity manager having less interfaces is both good
and
bad. The good part is mostly related to development - splitting up
the
calls to the various SQL managers among several entity managers allows
more
flexibility in terms of which classes have to be checked out of the
repository to add to or update the interfaces.
>> The bad part is that now, the "client" of the entity manager
must know
>> which entity manger to call for any particular set of
data. This negates
>> a significant part of the advantage of using the single
interface into the
>> persistence layer.
I've used both strategies in the past, and I tend to stay with one
entity
manager with a large number of interfaces. It moves the
responsibility of
knowing where to get the data from the client to the service, where it
usually belongs. The only real time penalty is when you compile the
partition - there will be more to compile. But since they are just
interafaces, it shouldn't be that big of a deal.
Don
At 10:49 AM 11/28/97 -0500, Joseph Mirwald wrote:
Hello Forte-Users,
currently I work with the Concept of the White-Paper:
Forte Database Integration Patterns
Forte Consulting
May 1996
to integrate Database-Access into my Warehouse-Application.
Because the hole Application is delivered step by step and we are new
in using Forte, I use for the first step only the patterns describedfor
the DBEntityMgr to get a "feeling".
The problem is, that if I use the DBEntityMgr-Concept and have many
BaseClasses to access I have a lot of interface-calls like
GetCustomer,GetProducts,etc..
The Database Session Router will also not solve this "problem" infuture,
because the
ApplicationEntityMgr has than the same problem.
Question: Know anyone a way, based on the upon described facilitiesto use
this strategy with a solution to make more "EntityMgrSO's" to get asmaller
DBEntityMgr-Interface?
The Database Session Router is planed for using when the Applicationshould
be used from more Users and when running the SO's on aWorkGroup-Server.
Question: Know anyone a way there to split the ApplicationEntityMgr?
Every reply is welcome.
Thanks forward to all
Joseph Mirwald
Bachmeier & Sporrer
GERMANY
EMAIL: [email protected]
Don't worry, which bug you wanna have today?
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Regional Consulting Manager - Rocky Mountain Region
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Denver, CO
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Hierarchy of Time Management Terms

Hi Gurus,
I am new to Time Management.
I was going through the Help for Time Management. But very much confused with the terms Work Shcedule, Daily Work Schedule, Personnel Subarea grouping, Personal Work Schedule, Periodic Work Schedule, Break Schedule, Work Schedule Rule etc. I understood each and everyt term. But was unable to establish a hierarchy among them.
Can somebody give a clear picture of this hierarchy.
Thanks,
Sankar.

Hello Sankar,
Ok, here you go:
The basic unit in time management to form a time schedule is the Daily work schedule (DWS). This is customized in table T550A. In this table you must set all the parameters that form your schedule. So first you have to define if the schedule is flexible or not and whether it has breaks or not. If it has breaks, you have to customize them first in table T550P and then assign them to your DWS.
After you do this, you have to customize the period work schedules (PWS) in table T551A. These are no other than sequences of DWS. So for example you can have a normal office shift that goes from Mondays to Sundays, with Saturdays and Sundays off, repeated every week. So your PWS will be a sequence of 5 equal DWS plus two DWS with zero working hours for Sat and Sun.
After you do this, you have to customize your DWS rules in table T508A, that are actually a PWS with a starting point. Think of the PWS as a wheel: your shifts are sequences of steps that repeat themselves periodically, like the normal weekly office shifts. But this is not enough to identify what DWS the employee has to do a specific day, since you have to tell the system when exactly to set the starting point for the sequence. You do this by customizing a DWS rule. This is the "object" that you assign to the employee in infotype 0007.
Of course, like many concepts in HR, DWS, PWS, breaks and DWS rules are customized by groupings of employees and / or personnel areas and subareas. I suggest that you take a look at the tables I mentioned to have an idea on how to set these groupings.
Good luck!
Rodrigo

Project (time) management in numbers?

Hi all,
I am setting up a few spreadsheets for next year's students projects and I was wondering if it possible to use the charts to show start and end dates for individual projects.
At the moment the chart always starts at zero and goes up to a set value. Is there a way to have a bar in a chart start above "zero"?
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Something that would allow me to set up a grid (by week) and have bars (projects) start and stop at certain times? Something like MS Project, but simple and free would be a bonus
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Time Management _selection Rules

Hi all,
What is the use of selection rule concept in Time management Module....
How we will use this in real time...can any one of u explain me in detail with good examples...
is there any relation between these two table T553A and T553S?
Thanks & Regards,
Avanthika.k

Hi,
Please go through the attached thread which is giving the information with examples...
Time management-day type selection rule
Best Regards,
enkat.
Edited by: Venkateswara Sarma Bhamidipati on Feb 11, 2011 3:43 AM

What are the major challenges for the end-user in using Positive Time Management

Hi Seniors,
Can anybody please provide me some data on the same.
Thanks.

Hi,
Positive time management is slightly difficult to implement compared to negative time management.
In negative time management, you use planned working times + deviations in time evaluation.
In positive time management, you record actual times through time recording system. You have to bring these times to SAP through an interface and then evaluate the actual times against the planned times and accordingly pay them out. You would need to pay attention regarding the integration between SAP R/3 and time recording system.
Building rules for positive time management is slightly more challenging compared to negative time management.
Kindly go through the below documents on positive time management which will give you more idea about the same.
Integration of Time Recording Terminals with SAP R/3
Determination of First Clock In & Last Clock Out in Positive Time Evaluation
Late Coming, Early Going and Unauthorized absence
Prorated Grant of Absence Quota for Contract Period in Time Evaluation
Splitting of Overtime Hours after X Hours in Time Evaluation
Rounding off Overtime Hours Generated via T510S table in Time Evaluation
Public Holiday Calendar and Work Schedule Rules
I hope these are helpful to you.
Thanks and regards,
Vivek Barnwal

Query on Time Management Status

Dear Team,
Scenario:
We have some employees wherein the time evaluation will be evaluated for the status of 9 in Planned Working Time Infotype. After a period of time, these employees will be sent for education and no leaves are entitled. In this case, the time management status will be changed to 0. No time evaluation.
The accrued leaves will still be available for the employee while going to this education for example 20 days.
We have customized a rule, which will carry forward the last year balance to the current year balance on every 1st of the year.
In the above case, if an employee completes his education and returns back in the middle of the year other than the 1st day of the year, in this case, the carry forward of leave is not taking place.
My assumptions:
I would like to know an operation which would query the Previous Day Time Management Status and Current Day Time Management Status. If I can able to do this, if it is YES, the last old previous balance to be carried forward....
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Thanks and Regards
Team Member.
Edited by: Patlolla Mallikarjun on Apr 26, 2010 8:35 PM

Hello Mallikarjun,
If you are planning on controlling thru a rule in schema, you can approach this way. Whenever an EE returns from education, change IT0007 time mgmt status to 9 along with additional time indicator say 'ED'. You can query the additional time indicator status in a rule thru the operation 'OUTWPATIND'. Hope this helps your requirement.
Best Regards,
Sunny

Flow of Time Management Configuration.

Hello Guys,
Please explain me the flow of SAP Time Management during the configuration. It will help everyone to understand the process step by step
Thanks & Regards

Steps for IT0007
Define Public Holiday Classes
Personnel Subarea Groupings
Daily Work Schedules
Period Work Schedules
Work Schedule Rules and Work Schedules
Steps for IT2001 and 2006
Group Personnel Subareas for Attendances and Absences
Define Absence Types
Determine Entry Screens and Time Constraint Classes
Define Counting Classes for the Period Work Schedule
Group Employee Subgroups for Time Quotas
Group Personnel Subareas for Time Quotas
Define Counting Rules
Define Absence Quota Types
Permit Generation of Quotas in Time Evaluation
Specify Rule Groups for Quota Type Selection
Set Base Entitlements
Determine Validity and Deduction Periods
Define Rules for Rounding Quota Entitlements
Define Generation Rules for Quota Type Selection
Define Deduction Rules for Absence and Attendance Quotas
Assign Deduction Rules to Counting Rules
Best Regards

ABAP-HR, Time Management

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In HR-ABAP, i want to know complete funciton modules, macros and few sample programs that are related to TIME MANAGEMENT in HR-ABAP.
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Hoping for best results with in less time.
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Hi all i have doubt in time management

Hi All,
I have a doubt in time management,
Q) If in a enterprise diversified daily work shedule are there, i.e if aemployee is working 4hrs a day & other is working 6 hrs per day, & other is working 1 day a week and the client does not want these many of work shedules.
What advise you give to the client
if any body give the answer
Thanks nad regards
srinivas

Hi Srinivas,
If your client is persistent of not wanting too many work schedules, Flexible Work Schedule will resolve your issue.
- assign a Flexible workschedule(planned working time is 24 hrs 0:00-24:00) for all these kind of employees.
- I hope you know the effects of Flexible workschedules- Then you need to desing your schema as positive time eval
If your client does not like this idea, as others suggested no essay way ...
Hope this will work.
thanks
Mahesh

Use of TM04 in negative time Management

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What is the use of TM04 schema in (-)ve time management. For absence and attendaces we use Factoring and the required parameters for Factoring like TKDIVI or TKSOLL is available from function PARTT (Partial period parameter).
Can u please explain me
Regards
Prasad

Hi Sowmya,
TM04 is used for -ve Time mgt and is for planned working hours, - ve Time mgt wil capture the any deviations in your work schudule, i.e overtiem, Absence etc,
and Time Mgt satus is reqiurd for the integtration with payroll,
Time mgt staus 9 is for Integration with payroll,
if u use +ve Time actual working hour u use Time Mgt status 1,2
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reward points if helpful.
Regards
Srinivas

USE OF CATS IN Negative time management scinario

Hi Friends,
                I need your guidance on following points
    1)    Is there any relevance of using CATS in negative time management.
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Rajesh,
1. CATS is very much relevant in negative time management for payment of overtime, recording absences and attendances. In CATS, the employee would enter time using activity types which needs to be mapped to the relevant attendance / absence types. After approval, the times charged in the time sheets would be transferred to infotypes 2001 / 2002 / 2010 (can be used for overtime)
You can use the data transfer reports "RPTEXTPT" for Human Resources components
Pls. refer to the below link for information
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/f9783b05efdb18e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
2. You can use TMSTA "9" - Time evaluation - planned times while using CATS
3. CATS data can be very much transferred to infotype 2002
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/f9783b05efdb18e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Hope this information helps
Regards
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Some Questions on Time Management PCR's and Functions

Hi Experts,
I have Confusion while i am reading some PCR's related to Time Management. Please clarify..
1. "FILLPV T " why we are using this operation and what is the need?
2. "OUTTPORIGS" what is the origin statuses and how many origin statuses are there in SAP and is there any table related to this please tell me.
3. What is the difference between RPTQTA00 and RPTIME00?
Please help me
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Hi All,
Please give me some examples to explain FILLPV. so that it can help me to understand easily.
and how many ore there origin statuses are there in SAP.
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