Time Management without Payroll?

Has anyone implemented Time Management without Payroll?  I am in the process of coming up with a design on retrieving payable hours from the B2 cluster and send them to an external payroll system.  The problem I am running into is knowing what has changed (if hours were added or deleted in the past) without having to keep my own version of the cluster the last time Time Eval was run and comparing to this time.
Any help is appreciated...

I had this problem view years ago (Release 4.0)
You have to use the Report RPTEZL00 to made the wagetypes for the other payroll - the problem was the table T599Z - that is used to translate the SAP LGA into the other LGA - the check ends in both times in T512W

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    Hi Team,
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    Edited by: Vimal Kumar on Sep 21, 2009 4:55 PM
    Edited by: Vimal Kumar on Sep 21, 2009 5:02 PM

    Hi,
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  • Time management status "0"and "7"

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  • Time Management - Time Recording System

    Hi,
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    hi everyone......
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    Hi,
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  • UNABLE TO GET SALARY BASED ON HOURS ( POSITVE TIME MANAGMENT )

    Hi Vivek,
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    Thanks,
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    Hi,
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  • Time Management Status 7 without Payroll Integration.

    Dear All,
    when do we go about Time Management Status - 7 - without Payroll Integration.
    In this case how the process goes on SAP. what do we do in this status. do we record employees attendances in 2002 IT
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    Regards
    kvn

    Hi KVN,
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    The client may ask sometimes for few Quotas to be prorated on a daily basis and so on in that case go with TE Quota generation
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  • Quary : Implement Payroll without Time Management

    Hi,
             is it posiable implement Payroll without Time manage ment ?  if yes   while performing action ( PA40 )  what we hve have to mention in worke schdule..
    Edited by: prabu ganesh on Apr 30, 2011 1:50 PM

    Yes, it is possible to run PY without TM. But workschedule must be filled and choose time management status 7 - without Payroll Integration.
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  • Waht does time management status 0 without payroll integration mean

    In our project, the client does not want to use time evaluation and so, we have set the time management status value as 0 (no time evaluation). Also, the client is not implementing (at least now) SAP-Payroll, as they are processing payroll through a different software. We have configured work schedules ( they need just 4 different work schedules) and assigned appropriate ork schedules to all employees in infotype 0007. We have also configured one absence quota (Earned Leave of 20 days per year).
    My query is how will the system behave now with time management status value as 0? Can we process absence quotas? What is the use of work schedules, in this context, as any way the system does not evaluate employee time in Time Management. Neither the time wage types are evaluted in Payroll, as SAP Payroll is not implemented.
    -Shambhvi

    My thanks to all of you. I would like to summarize the answer for my query:
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    -Shambhvi

  • Time management status and Payroll

    Experts,
       We are using TMS as 9 (Time evaluation of planned time) in IT0007. What does it mean in TM?
       What is it's impact in Payroll.
    Regards
    Sk
    Edited by: s k on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 AM

    You can assign the following Time Management statuses in the Planned Working Time infotype (0007):
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    Time Management Status for processing time data in Time Evaluation without passing on time wage types formed there to Payroll
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    External services (8): Status for external employees. It makes no difference whether all of the employeesu2019 actual times are recorded or only the deviations from the work schedule. The results of time evaluation are transferred to Materials Management (MM-SRV), and are not passed on to
    and also check the feature TMSTA once  in peo3
    Edited by: Sikindar on Nov 17, 2008 3:01 PM

  • Employees Salary without Time Management sub-module?

    Dear Consultants,
    Where to record employees attendance/absences (time related information) inorder to pay the salary through SAP-HR Payroll? We are implementing PA and Payroll (International). Time Management is not in the scope of the project.
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    Edited by: Business Analyst - HCM on May 20, 2009 2:20 PM

    You have to create atleast the work schedule which will consist of DWS and PSW and then work scheedule rule. Also I think you will require to configure feature SCHKZ to default work schedule rule in IT0007.
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