Time stamp in PSE9 organizer messed up?

Hi,
I am presently using PSE8 which I like a lot, but am also trying out PSE9 Trial. I have found some anomalies when it comes to the time stamp in PSE 9 Trial.
I know I have a 1 h difference between my camera, Canon 40D, and my computer due to inaccurate daylight savings time in my camera. Normally I shoot in RAW+JPEG mostly except for the sports program when only JPEG is used. I use Win 7 x64 Ultimate.
In organizer the timestamp for Date Time Original and Date Time Digitized are correct for the RAW-files, but when it comes to JPEG I have a mix of correct and 1 h changed time stamps. How can this be?
I have double checked in ACDSee and in Windows Photo Gallery and there the time stamps are correct. Maybe there is an explanation for this behavior, but until then it seems like a bug to me. My plan was to buy PE 9, but this makes me hesitant.
I would appreciate an explanation or a confirmation that this is a bug.

Hi,
Thank you for your response. I agree with your conclusion. I looked into the changes a little bit more after your mail and found that .jpg files that had not been altered i.e rotated prior importing to PSE 9 did not change. I rotate my .jpg pictures "lossless" in acdsee.
I have used PSE8 with the same procedure, but there everything works fine.
I enclose a few samples, if I can send the raw-files, Canon .cr2, due to size. Views from picture sorting in PSE9/ACDsee/Windows Live Photo Gallary are also enlosed.
Best regards,
TK
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:24:26 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Time stamp in PSE9 organizer messed up?
Hi,
Organizer handles the daylight savings time and hence it would make corrections automatically. So if a file is present in the catalog that has date stamp which falls under the day light savings period, then Organizer make the corrections automatically. So the 1 hour gap may be happening because of the same reason.
Though the problem which appears to me is that the same should happen for raw files as well.
It would be good if you could give some more information any set of files X.jpg and its corresponding raw file , say X.nef. Please share the date time stamps of both raw and jpegs for the same images files (Date Time Original and Date Time Digitized).
Also share your timezone information and if you have taken any of those pictures from a different timezone.
~V
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Hi,
Thank you for your response. I agree with your conclusion. I looked into the changes a little bit more after your mail and found that .jpg files that had not been altered i.e rotated prior importing to PSE 9 did not change. I rotate my .jpg pictures "lossless" in acdsee.
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Best regards,
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:24:26 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Time stamp in PSE9 organizer messed up?
Hi,
Organizer handles the daylight savings time and hence it would make corrections automatically. So if a file is present in the catalog that has date stamp which falls under the day light savings period, then Organizer make the corrections automatically. So the 1 hour gap may be happening because of the same reason.
Though the problem which appears to me is that the same should happen for raw files as well.
It would be good if you could give some more information any set of files X.jpg and its corresponding raw file , say X.nef. Please share the date time stamps of both raw and jpegs for the same images files (Date Time Original and Date Time Digitized).
Also share your timezone information and if you have taken any of those pictures from a different timezone.
~V
>

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