Time to switch from Pro Tools to Logic?

The more I work with Final Cut X the more I don't like the Pro Tools interface. I'm repeatedly finding myself automatically using the Final Cut keyboard shortcuts for navigation, and of course they don't work. Is the Logic interface more similar to that of Final Cut X?

boogie457 wrote:
Hey I am have just made the switch from Pro Tools to Logic and was hoping if someone could take the time to help me out with a couple questions! Thanks for you patience
1) For some reason Kore and Motu Symphonic Orchestra aren't showing up in my instruments. When I click and hold the track where I can insert the instrument there is no Motu folder. There is a native instruments folder but kore isn't in there. I've checked both 32bit and 64bit floders for both. How do I get them to show up?
Logic only eats AudioUnits. Are you sure you have the AU versions installed?
2) When I import an Audio File into a logic session i'm getting "Error while trying to synchronize Audio and MIDI. Sample Rate 23938 recognized.Check conflict between Logic Pro and external device" When I playback the imported audio file it sounds terrible it sounds like it plays back at half speed with lots and lots of artifacts. My session setup is at 48K but and so was the audio going in. I wasn't sure what to check for when it was referring to "check conflict between LP and Extern Device"
Check the Audio MIDI Setup utility or the audio interface's own tool and change clock from back and forth from and to what it should be.

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NEED HELP TRANSFERING FROM PRO TOOLS TO LOGIC!!!!!!!

Hey this is my first post, so hello to everyone on the boards. My question is that I am going into the studio to record live drums this weekend in a studio using pro tools, however i'm doing everything else at home, so i was wondering if anyone knows how i can transfer the audio files from pro tools on one computer to logic on mine. Also, please let me know if it works the other way as well, because i'm going back in to record vocals in the studio. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! THANKS!!!!!

Best way to do this is to "consolidate" the files in PT so that they all start on bar 1, beat 1. Once you do this you can be assured that all files are aligned to start at the same point. Copy the files over to your Logic compute, drag them all into Logic's arrange window and then slide them all to 1 1 1 1. You're good to go.

Easiest way of bringing audio files from pro tools to logic w/o using omf

I have a session recorded in pro tools that I am trying to get in logic so I can mix, since logic has way more plug-ins than pro tools but when I import the audio files they all start at 1. I need the files to show up where they were recorded at in pro tools. I tried putting these files in the audio bin first and bringing to the arraange but they still started at 1. Can I get logic to this? if not does anyone know a work around?

You need to consolidate the files in Pro Tools first, so they are all starting from the same point.
From within Pro Tools... select al the regions in Pro Tools, (make sure all tracks are selected) ,place the curser at the end of the song, hold down the shift key, and hit return. This will select the whole session, form bar 1, beat 1.
At this point, if there are tracks with many edits, I will first duplicate them (option/shift/3). These duplicated tracks are then pre-selected for you, and you can go ahead and consolidate them to a folder of your choosing by hitting command/shift/K.
Then open a new Logic song, and add these files to the audio bin. Place them on the arrange page, all starting from bar 1, beat 1, and they'll all play in perfect sync.
I do this frequently, btw, and it works 100% of the time, with absolutely no problems.

Any easy guide from Pro Tools Editing to Logic Editing?

Hi,
I am new here. Just switched from Pro Tools to Logic.
Is there an easy guide to translate from one to the other?
I am having some specific problems.
When I try to select with the pointer tool it just drags the whole region. How do I select a section like I do in Protools?
Why do the edits not show up in the sample editor?
Why are the edit tools different in the sample editor window...for example...why can't I use the scissors tool thre?
Is there something comparable to the smart tool in Pro-tools? I am finding I have to go up and click on the tool list every time and it is time consuming. Is there a list of key commands?
I am sure I have even more questions but that should suffice for now.
Thanks!
Celia

Here's so more stuff to not take personally:
Read the manual. Complex tasks demand complex tools and complex tools aren't always intuitive.
If I understand your first question correctly, you want to select just a portion of a region while in the arrange screen. If so try esc-E, this will bring up the "marquee" tool. I think that's the one you want for selecting material to cut, copy, etc.
I don't do a lot of sample editing, but I've done enough to know that the sample system really requires the manual for a full understanding. Different screens are used for different activities. Mostly the sample remains the sample and onlly the reference to the sample is modified, truncated, clipped and so forth. Though it's possible, you mostly don't make destructive editing on the sample directly.
Regarding tool access: You can get to them a number of ways. Esc-key calls up the list, you can click one or you can type the associated call-up number/letter. Additionally you can right cllick and it will use the secondary tool. The secondary (and the primary left click tool as well) can also be selected in the upper right hand area just above the main arrange window.
But really, sooner or later, if you want to really understand the thing you have to read the manual or something like the PeachPit publications on Logic/Logic Express.
Sad but true.
-- Gerry

Pro Tools or Logic

I'm not writing this thread to start a war, its just that I'm having a very hard time deciding between Pro Tools or Logic. I would eventually like to use both, but I can only afford to go with one right now and I really only want to focus my attention on one at this time as well.
Overall, I am really leaning towards Logic with a MOTU interface. However, the more I read the Pro Tools Vs. Logic debate, the more I start to question what to go with. I read so many posts with people bashing Pro Tools, but most people I know use it, most pro studios use it, and most musicians I've researched use it. Logic, on the other hand, seems like a complete package, made more for the creative side of composing/songwriting. I can get an awesome studio set with Logic/MOTU for MUCH less $$ than a Pro tools rig.
However, it seems like going the Pro Tools LE route, Digi 002, (which Is all I can afford at this point), I will be compromising quality overall. The only reason I can see going with Pro Tools is because so many people use it and it would be easy to transfer files with other Pro Tools users. Other than that, I really would like to take the Logic route.
For the record, I play guitar and bass and use drum machines. I would like to start getting more familar with midi and Logic seems like a good program for that.
What do you all think. This decision is really driving me crazy. Thanks.

Jack,
I am a composer who has used Pro Tools since it came out over a decade ago. I have had all kinds of systems, as Digi changed over the years.
I finally ran out of money when HD came out. I could not afford to upgrade my Mix system, yet I wanted to use the most current version of the program, which Mix no longer supported. So I sold it, and got LE and an 002R. I have used this system for over a year. I have done national commercials with it and it has paid for itself many times.
I use a lot of stereo samples. That eats up tracks. The 32 track limit in LE, and the instability of virtual instrument plug ins in LE made me start thinking about Logic. It wasn't the converters in the 002R....they are terrible and you must buy something like an Apogee Mini Me and then it sounds great going in.
But it was a little over a week ago that I bought Logic 7.2. Yesterday, I had a song with 58 tracks playing back just fine on my G5. The virtual instruments work great too. It is a much harder program to use than Pro Tools, but it is much richer and deeper. There are frustrating things about it that make you scratch your head, but these are minor compared to what it gives back to you.
Unless you have over 10 grand to get a REAL Pro Tools system, and then face the fact that it will be replaced by something else in a couple years that will require you to sink thousands more into it, get Logic and take on the learning curve. Pro Tools is best for cutting audio, not dealing with midi and composers. And, I think now that Apple owns it, it will only get better, and probably easier, to work with. Buying into Digi, remember, is buying into a hardware company. They want people to get a "taste" of Pro Tools with LE, and then move up to to HD. They don't understand that most people, with the power of computers today, ain't moving up to a 10 grand system when they can do almost all of that in Logic, or even Digital Performer, Nuendo, etc.
Keep saying this to yourself...."Digidesign is a hardware company. They want and need me to buy HARDWARE to remain in existence. Hardware....hardware...money...more money.
Tom H

How do i switch my digidesign 003 factory from pro toold to logic mode

hello everyone this has been eating me up all moring.
i have just started working with this 003 and its works fine with the pro tools le that came with it but when i try and use logic pro 8 with it it just does not want to know. i get audio coming out the speakers but i cant use the faders or any of the other functions of the desk.
i have a m-audio projectmix at home and i know with this when you turn it on you have to hold down different keys to change to diffrent programs. is this the case here? and does anyone know what i need to press?
thanks
sean o'hare

It seems as though you do not know Digidesign very well. If you want it to work with Logic, yes, you can use it more or less to control the faders through MIDI, but that is usually unreliable and is a pain to set up.
Digi's HUI protocol is proprietary. It will not work with Logic. It will not work with Cubase/Nuendo. . . nor will it work with Digital Performer. Nor Live. Nor Sonar.
The project mix 8 is different. It is not a Digidesign piece of hardware (although I know someone on here is going to yell about how Digi and M-Audio are the same or something. . . but they're not)
and it is made to work with multiple platforms.
Unfortunately that's just the way it is.

Pro Tools an Logic at once!

I'm doing a pretty crazy thing I've never heard of before: Logic and Pro Tools on one computer at the same time. Here's how:
Pro Tools M-Powered 7 and Logic 7 both using M-audio 1814
SPDIF in and out connected to each other
2 midi interfaces plugged into each other
Logic slaving to Pro Tools
I route the output of logic to the spif and then make the Input on pro tools spdif.
This is totally working and I can't believe it. Now I can use the creation power of Logic with the audio editing power of Pro Tools and not have to do any crazy things to transfer from one to the other! I'm stoked out of my mind!

Hi Redisred,
Great!!, now I believe you'll want this free little app called "Desktop Manager", since your screen will be cluttered with lots of open windows.
http://desktopmanager.berlios.de/screenshots.php
Click the download tab to d/l it.
I've tried it and it works very nice. It's so easy to switch between the desktop. And it's free...
Regards.
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Pro-tools and Logic

I am looking into getting an Audio Interface. Everybody suggest that i get an Mbox and get into the world of pro-tools because this is the Industry Standard. Logic Pro 7 is my one and only DAW. Still a beginner on this but i am starting to get filmmakers asking for my help.
I am starting to do film music and video/tv jingles. I am sure it's inevitably on some projects that i will mix my own compositions and sound design some indie films. Will M-box 2 work with Logic? Is it inevitable i learn Pro tools as well and do all the mixing here? Thanks

Thanks guys. I think i fairly know logic now and so
do you think it will be easier to learn pro-tools?
It's a different animal. Don't worry about how hard or easy it will be to learn. If you want to learn it, you'll learn it.
iScwartz, very good point... I assume you do
everything in Logic? Also what interface do you use?
Thing is, i only have a G5 imac. So PCI is not for me
at the moment... any suggestions though?
The problem with FW-based interfaces is that some of them suffer from random recording delay offsets (every time you turn on your computer, the offset changes). Do some research here (and elsewhere) to find out which FW-based interfaces do not suffer from this. I'm sure someone will chime in with some info for you.

Pro Tools to Logic Pro Learning Curve?

I currently use Pro Tools LE 8.0.1 with the original MBox but am about to upgrade my interface and know I have many options. I've been told that I'd get more bang for the buck by getting whichever interface I want and going with Logic Pro instead of PT. From a financial standpoint, that makes sense, since I've seen PT 10 selling for something like $500 or $600. For those of you who've gone from PT to Logic, was it a huge learning curve? Do you prefer it? I do voiceover and simple songwriting "scratch" demos, and that's all - no finals for music and only occasionally, for voiceover. I honestly don't need anything with a million bells and whistles, but want more than Garage Band. What's your take on this?
Thanks,
Annie

The thing that I advise you is to approach to Logic with the "logic of Logic".
Do not make the mistake of trying to do the same things you did on ProTools at the same way you do on ProTools.
Logic is a bomb, deserves to be interpreted in the right way. Once done, you never go back.
Learning curve depend from this.
Tommy

Pro Tools sees Logic BWF Timestamp as "Out of Range"

Does anyone know why the timestamps of BWFs bounced from Logic 7 are showing up as "Out of Range" when trying to spot them in Pro Tools??
This has really screwed me over.
Thanks!

PS -- not all of them. About half. I'm not bouncing them, so I can't say for sure that some circumstance is not changing for the various bounces . . .

Pro Tools to Logic Pro 8

Hi. I have Pro Tools session in ProTools 6.4.1 and just bought Logic Pro 8. The session in PT was completed (mix, fades, edits) and I want to import the whole session including tracks into Logic. When I did my first attempt, I had to import each track by itself and then try to re-allign/arrange the song. Second and many attempts after, I imported the whole song but it came across as one track. Is there a way to import the whole session in its correct sequence, and track order without having to redo? Iam not so concerend about effects but would like the structure to have the same integrity as when in PT. I am new to Logic and producing my own music so any help would be great. Nothing like trying to piece together 27 tracks all over again. Ahhhhh!

Hi,
I do this regularly. Here's the catch:
IF you want to keep ALL your automation moves, and EQ / effects / etc... on each track as it was in ProTools, then you have to bounce each track individually. The only thing to remember to TURN OFF is global effects like reverbs / delays / etc... which you used on busses. These you'll hopefully replicate in Logic after the move. Or you can even bounce the effects-only as well.
IF you ONLY want the raw tracks, then the best thing to do is to consolidate each track into a new audio file, making sure that you consolidate ALL OF THEM with the same exact start point. Then import into Logic, line them up to the same start point, and Bob's your uncle.
There are two formats that Logic recognizes for importing sessions from other DAW : OMF (ProTools uses this) and AAF (Final Cut Pro uses this)
BUT:
They are not 100% bulletproof. So that's why I gave you a detailed way of doing this. It's more work, but it GUARANTEES that when you open the song in Logic, you're not left wondering about any missing pieces.
Cheers

Running Pro Tools and Logic Simultaneously

I've been using Logic and Pro Tools together for a while now. I pretty much only use Logic as a Virtual Synth Rack and records the audio into Pro Tools. I use the CoreAudio of my computer with Logic and plug the output of my computer right into the Digi003 rack that I use for Pro Tools. Recently I started running into an issue where I can't use Pro Tools with any other audio/soft synth program. When I do the secondary program starts to make noise as if a MIDI note is being sent to it. It only happens when I have Pro Tools open. It happens when I open Logic, Garagband, MainStage, and any Standalone VSTs. It's frustrating because I'm not able to use Logic the way I used to. Whatever patch I have open, Pro Tools will force it to start playing a low pitch drone which I haven'tbeen able to stop.
I'm currently using Pro Tools LE 8.0.4 and Logic Pro 9.1.5

Logic makes this easy with a command under the File menu to export regions as files (works with midi tracks, too) and another one to export all tracks as audio files (or similar - not at my Mac now).
Once exported, they're easy to import into Protools. This is easier than OMF, but probably not as complete. At least you don't have to buy Digitranslator to do it this way.

Audio from Pro Tools drifing in FCP but in sync in PT

imported mixed audio file from Sound Designer working in PT. TC window burn numbers all match, have sync in Pro Tool but once inside FCP audio drift out to the right (late). Tried re-exporting QT movie from FCP sequence, importing that vid file into PT timeline ( everything in sync still). re-export audio from PT back into same FCP sequence and audio is out of sync again.

1st--I know VERY little about FCP but from what the OMF file "told" PT. Both are at 48khz, both are 23.976/23.98. Pt differentiates between the 2 and FCP doesn't but IF i have mismtached frame rates I get a RED flag in pro tools. (which I don't have).

Jabber crashes every time I switch from Wifi to LAN connection

But it doesn't happen when switch from LAN to Wifi. Happens on other user's computers as well. I'm running v9.1.3 on Windows 7 x64 SP1.

You should try testing with 9.2. It should be available in the next few days..
If that doesn't resolve the issue, I'd recommend opening a TAC case to get the crash dump analysed.

Transfer sessions from Pro Tools

I have upgraded from G4 with ProTools 6.1 to G5 Quad with Logic Pro 7.2. I am trying to transfer tracks from a PT session to LP. I tried using Digitranslator and could only get one track to appear in LP. The same track every time no matter what I did (There are ten tracks in the session and I selected them all for transfer). Can anyone give me a step by step procedure for transferring tracks? I followed the directions in the online Digitranslator manual. Is there any other way to do this besides OMF? LP doesn't recognize the file formats I am able to export from PT (WAV or AIFF or SDII).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.........

I think your first issue is to get LP to recognise the PT audio. There's no reason it shouldn't unless your sequencer engines are set on different bit rates and depths. I use OMF for exactly what you are doing and it works fine...
Transferring the audio manually is fine but you will lose any other information (automation, levels, pans, etc...).

Time to switch from Pro Tools to Logic?

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