Timecode ?? change in timecode....

we shot 3 cameras tonight..on one tape during a clip, that should be imported as one clip, the timecode goes from 40:22:00 back to like 11:17:00..what should i do..i'd rather have a smooth timecode flow..should i dub that tape on another tape..or will that still transfer the timecode???
how else can i fix this? Or should I just capture now and not worry about the huge jump back in timecode?
I havent run into timecode issues before..my DVX100a has been perfect thus far(knock on wood)..it was a Canon that jumped back in timecode....ugggh.
help..(please)

yes, you could simply dub the tape to another and so get regenerated unbroken timecode.
or you just capture in two parts then reassemble on the timeline. if necessary then nest the sequence and use the nest as source clip

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I am capturing betacam sp footage into FCP 5.1 on a dual G5 2.3 box, and using a Kona LSe card. Timecode is running through the 422. For the most part, things are going smoothly, but I am now running into an issue where when I batch capture my logged clips, the last 10 to 15 sec. is chopped off. I generally can just enter the time code again manually to fix the issue, but some of my clips are 8 to 10 min long (interviews), and my client is getting irritated that we are having to capture them again. I also tend to batch capture the majority of these long bites overnight for next morning's session, and they are now consistently coming in with the ends lopped off. FCP is actually changing the timecode on the clip, making me question whether or not I entered it correctly the first time. To prove that I'm not crazy, I monitored the capture on the first couple of clips, and sure enough, FCP decides that I don't need the last 15 sec of my clip, and changes the timecode accordingly during the capture.
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Well I recently had a similar problem that is really driving me crazy.
While capturing 720p 59.94 from the D5
In FCP when I log a clip at:
01:20:00:00 in
01:20:30:00 out
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01:19:55:05 in
01:20:25:05 out
FCP is effectively changing the logged timecode of the clip.
In all my experience with FCP I have never encountered this issue and I am completely puzzled. I've contacted AJA and they have said that they do not know of this issue and were puzzled also. The only thing about my current configuration that is not completely right is that I am not using a Tri-Level Sync at the moment. We get ours tomorrow. AJA suggests using the Tri-Level Sync with the Kona 3 card, but would that cause a glitch of this nature? I will try again tomorrow of course and update, but does having bad 720p reference effect how FCP logs and handles TC? To my knowledge it shouldn't and makes me think that there may be some sort of FCP error occurring. There is no reason why FCP should be changing my logged clip settings. Also, I tried a test where I made the clip that came in with the bad timecode offline, and then ran a Bath Capture again, and it changes the logged timecode even further. I've tried a variety of Device Control settings playing with frame offset etc with all having the exact same numeric result (see TC above).
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Logged Timecode Changes after Batch Capture

I'm working with the Kona 3 and the Panasonic D5 (HD3700B)
I'm having a problem with FCP changing my logged clip TC after Batch Capture in 720p 59.94. This problem only occurs in 720p mode, 1080i is just fine.
While capturing 720p 59.94 from the D5
In FCP when I log a clip at:
01:20:00:00 in
01:20:30:00 out
After Batch Capture is complete the clip shows up in the browser as:
01:19:55:05 in
01:20:25:05 out
FCP is effectively changing the logged timecode of the clip. I'm capturing with burned in TC and the Burned in TC is Frame accurate, but why is FCP changing the clip's TC?
In all my experience with FCP I have never encountered this issue and I am completely puzzled. I've contacted AJA and they have said that they do not know of this issue and were puzzled also. I am using a Tri-Level Sync and everything seems to be getting proper reference.
There is no reason why FCP should be changing my logged clip settings. (right?) Also, I tried a test where I made the clip that came in with the bad timecode offline, and then ran a Batch Capture again, and it changes the logged timecode even further. I've tried a variety of Device Control settings playing with frame offset etc with all having the exact same numeric result (see TC above).
Anyone who has any insight or similar experience your thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks for the help
Ted - Editor, NYC

The BITC matches the original Logged TC (even though the logged TC changes after capture)
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I'm very curious about what yourlooking at on the deck manual. Page 145??? I don't see a page 145. It's been my understanding that the Monitor HD-SDI does produce the 720p 59.94 signal, and that's what all my monitors and Kona say that their getting.
Also, could you clarify your last sentence.
*"Forgive my guessing but this deck looks like it really wants to work in 1080 and 720 is kind of there to step up from 8 bit DVCPro HD."*
I dont think that its a 23.98 issue and our source tape is not 23.98, even still if it was, it shouldn't effect the logged TC.... but I'll try it in the morning, could'nt hurt.
Update: A person over the phone at Apple "didn't" (did) say over the phone that upgrading to 5.1 (universal) would improve 720p capabilities.
So the next step will be giving more money to Apple for Universal and installing the new Kona drivers released yesterday.....and then let the testing fun begin again.
Thanks so much for your help, please let me know where to find that info in the D5 (3700B) manual. Cheers.

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kmbarry23_,
Thank you for snapping photos to clarify this problem.
Richard, by default, the "audio time units" or samples is unchecked in the Program Monitor, and the affected timecode to the right of the Program Monitor's wrench/spanner refer to the last frame of media in the sequence, not the timecode of the clip nor audio file your playhead is parked on. The problem is that the dual system audio Overlay timecode as kmbarry23_ has revealed is always displayed in "audio time units" or samples. The only preference in Overlay settings is "source timecode," so there is nothing to change.
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The BITC matches the original Logged TC (even though the logged TC changes after capture)
Logged TC (Media Start/End in FCP)
01:20:00:00, 01:20:30:00
Captured TC (Media Start/End in FCP)
01:19:25:05, 01:20:25:05
Burned in TC Captured (Viewable on Video File)
01:20:00:00, 01:20:00:00
I'm very curious about what yourlooking at on the deck manual. Page 145??? I don't see a page 145. It's been my understanding that the Monitor HD-SDI does produce the 720p 59.94 signal, and that's what all my monitors and Kona say that their getting.
Also, could you clarify your last sentence.
*"Forgive my guessing but this deck looks like it really wants to work in 1080 and 720 is kind of there to step up from 8 bit DVCPro HD."*
I dont think that its a 23.98 issue and our source tape is not 23.98, even still if it was, it shouldn't effect the logged TC.... but I'll try it in the morning, could'nt hurt.
Update: A person over the phone at Apple "didn't" (did) say over the phone that upgrading to 5.1 (universal) would improve 720p capabilities.
So the next step will be giving more money to Apple for Universal and installing the new Kona drivers released yesterday.....and then let the testing fun begin again.
Thanks so much for your help, please let me know where to find that info in the D5 (3700B) manual. Cheers.

Change starting timecode

Hi,
I don't understand why and when I need to change the starting timecode? what is the reason for this?
can someone explain to me?
thx

A couple of possible scenarios...
Lets say you have a preview version of a clip from CGI (3D animation or something) that needs client approval. It does not have embedded TC, but it does have burn in (TC visible on screen). You can change the auxillary TC in Final Cut Pro to match the burn in. When you get the final full res copy of the CGI with TC, you know where to set in and out points so that you can replace the preview version.
Broadcasters have strict specifications for the copies you send them. As an example, most in Europe will require that program start on a master or station copy should be at 10:00:00:00. The ability to change the sequence TC means you can playout to tape at exactly the right point. It will also give you the numbers to correctly fill out the mandatory recording report.

My timecode changed to five digits APE11

APE 11 running Vista
All of a sudden my time code changed from h:m:s;f to five digit numbe. I have searched every phrase I can think of relating to timecod and have fround no answer. You would think it would be indixed someplace.
So, how do I reset my timecode on my time line back to h:m:s;f, please?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers and Peace! Phil

I knew this would happen as soon as I pressed the Post button.
I found it under:
Edit/Project Settings/General/Display Format/change to 30fps Drop Frame Timecode
I still don't understand why that is so difficult to find any place. It did not show up in APE Help.
I just stumbled over it back tracking what I looked for before.
Cheers andPeace! Phil

Media Encoder changes the timecode when converting to Quicktime ProRes 422 (LT)

After spending the majority of my day searching for a solution to this problem, I am hoping someone here will know how to resolve this issue.
After encoding several hundred clips of various file types to ProRes 422 LT at 23.976fps in Media Encoder, we discovered that the timecode of the source clips and the LT clips varies significantly when we bring the quicktime clips into FCP 7 or Quicktime 7. This is also creating issues for the EDL.
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We are looking for a solution that doesn't involve re-transcoding all of the footage.

Two.
First, this.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WSd9957a95a81082eb28f05af5126718c47be-800 0.html
Second, this.
Customize or load keyboard shortcuts
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Cannot change clip timecode to source timecode in viewer

I recently captured 5 clips using log & capture in FCP5, for all the clips with the exception of 1, I can see the TC in the viewer as well as in the browser's media start/end, but for this one clip, in the browser, the media start is 00:00:00:00 and the media end is the same as the duration. I am positive that I captured all 5 clips exactly the same. Can anyone help? Thanks.

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Troubleshoot and narrow down what it could be.

Can I change the timecode from hr:min:sec:frame to hr:min:sec:milliseconds?

I have an assignment im doing where im using frameforge to mimic an action scene, the problem is that when i tween (blend) scenes together it wants it in seconds:milliseconds but premiere is showing seconds:frames so i can not properly convert this without doing math for every shot. So my question is, is there a way to change the ":frames" to some fraction of a second?

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Is there an automatic way to conform caption timecode to where reassembled captions appear on the sequence, so that exports work/look the same as the program monitor? I can't find any documentation on how one would do that. Not that a lot of people need this function, but I do.
Conforming times manually is feasible but slow/ laborious: scrub the timeline, type in the new start + end timecodes on the caption in the bin, one by one. Of course if the new time overlaps with an existing caption, Premiere won't let you make the change. Untangling this can be a real mess because you need to find un-captioned spaces.
So, to avoid the overlap/untangle mess, one can first change all bin timecodes for after the end of the program (e.g, +1 hour); once lined up in the great beyond I can substract the extra time (again, manually, both start + end timecode) so that they again line up with my video sequence… hopefully in the correct places. But as you can see, laboriousness aside, this invites error (e.g., inadvertently breaking the translation).
Any suggestions for shortcuts or automation for this process within Premiere?

It's true you can't do it in Print to Video.
Edit to Tape can look complex at a glance, but it's really pretty simple. You can get detailed instructions on how to use it in the manual (or search your "Help" menu for Edit To Tape), but basically, this is what you do:
1. Set your timeline so your footage starts at 00:01:00:00, as you mentioned was your requirement. That means you're sequence actually starts at 00:00:20:00 due to the 40 seconds of bars/tone/countdown.
2. Open the Edit to Tape window and click the "Black and Code" button at the top of the window.
3. Set it to "Current Settings" and to start at 00:00:10:00 (you need to give the tape enough code for preroll to start at 00:00:20:00).
4. Black and Code the tape.
5. Set the In Point (bottom left of the Edit to Tape window) to start at 00:00:20:00.
6. Drag your sequence right from the browser to the "Assemble" button in the Edit to Tape window (you can also use "Insert," depending on your requirements).
7. Done and done.
*It's a good idea to close all your sequences and turn off "Show overlays" in the canvas before you edit to tape. helps things run smoothly.
Also...For the above explanation I am assuming you have placed the 40 seconds of bars/tone/countdown in your sequence. If you haven't, you can add them in using functions of Edit to Tape as well...again, see the manual. It's really quick.
I may have failed to include some steps that are second nature to me so that's another good reason to check the manual or the Help file.
Hope this helps,
Joni
(one more thing, make sure your Beta deck is set to "External" when you're outputting so it takes the timecode from FCP)

How do I change media start timecode?

I'm working on a project that was handed to me after a significant amount of capturing had already been done. Much of the footage (I'm praying that not all of it is like this) was captured using Capture Now, so there is no room left for pre-roll on any of the clips I am now trying to recapture (literally like 2 frames). I searched the forum and the web for a solution, but came up with some solutions that didn't work in my particular case. I have made the clips offline which for other users seems to have solved the problems of not being able to edit the Media Start/Media End timecode, but I still cannot get it to work.
Could it be that since I've used the clip in a sequence, it will not let me edit the timecode? Assuming there is some solution, and I am able to change the timecode, will any clips in sequences be trimmed to match the changes (for example, if I used the beginning of a clip in a sequence, and have now changed that clips beginning timecode, will it automatically trim the clip in the sequence or will it not reconnect at all?)
I'm working in FCP 4.5.
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Hey Jack
]Thanks for your continued posts Peter.
Always happy to help out, but thankyou for the acknowledgment! Often busy stressed people on this board forget that essential ingredient of good manners! So thank you!
]Does that really solve it? I'm not sure that it does
Absolutely! I had exactly your situation a couple of years ago, when I took over a job from someone who hadn't left any room on clips. I gave adding extended handles a shot, and it worked.
Once again I am just sorry I did not remember this workaround sooner.
As always, I would do a little test run first. I have mentioned this previously on the board, but I will again because I find it an invaluable tip:
]<small>A good little technique I have gotten into over the years is learning any new functionality in FCP with what I call my dummy project, dummy.fcp.
]This is just a normal FCP file with a couple of dozen clips, a few sequences and so on. Nothing too fancy, but designed to tap into most of the essential features, and broadly represent a typical type of job I do.
]Every time I want to try something new, and am worried I might damage existing work, I close the project I am working on, make a duplicate of dummy.fcp, and experiment on that. And I do it a couple of times, just to make sure for myself that the new functionality is well understood and predictable. I even try and do it wrong a couple of times, just to see what the results of mistakes would be like... Better learning through mistakes on your dummy ...
]If things go crazy, I have lost nothing, my current real-life project file is safe, and one of thee following is true:
] I am doing something wrong -- so I log on here
] I dont understand the functionality - so I log on here
] FCP might have a bug -- so I log on here
] All of the above -- so I log on here</small>
I recommend that you -- and everyone else! -- make one of these dummy projects for yourself, and try this solution out. And keep a copy for later, when you come across that next possible workflow enhancement / project destruction tool.
Regards
Peter

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