Timecode problem on edit to tape

Hi All
I am trying to edit to tape onto a hdw-f500 and all was working fine until this week , now the timecode on assemble edit does not continue but stop at 00:00:00:00 I have changed the deck to another hdw-f500 and same thing??? anyone know why or what setting I need to change?
Thanks in advance

Sounds like someone has been striping tapes and forgot to set the machine back to normal.
Press the "TC" menu button (should be right below the home button) and make sure the settings are INT-L and REGEN. Sorry I can't be more precise, I'm not at work now and this is from memory. Most of our HDW-F500s are in the garbage and we're using SRW5500s, but the TC menu isn't going to change that much between models.

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I set all my setting for the DVCAM deck to use firewire and all the FCp settings for firewire. Even this ws not working! So I then repatched the video using the components in and hey presto its all works.
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Just glad to be back up and running, although I have heard that the problem you suggest re frame accuracy may become an issue, but I read that it only usually has an effect on long programs.
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This may be helpfull for someone in the future (until the post expires and is wiped)

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This is a re-creation of a dead thread I found from June 6, 2006. This is the exact problem this other user was having.
OS 10.4.7
FCP 5.0.4
Dual G5 2.5
4.5 GB RAM
KONALH
Trying to edit to a Sony DVW-A500 (Digibeta) in Drop Frame mode.
Read Below for deets.
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames at the end of one hour.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

So is the timeline a drop frame timeline, starting at 1:00:00:00?
And then is the DBeta tape prestriped (at least enough to do an assemble edit) to start the program at 01:00:00:00?
In other words, is the FCP timeline timecode matching the Dbeta tape timecode in a 1:1 relationship before you attempt to Edit to Tape?
Thinking further: FCP can't really confuse the two timecodes, it's dependent on the operator to tell it what to do. When it outputs it's not outputing timecode or looking even really looking for timecode. It's looking for your IN point in the Edit to Tape tool.
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Edit to Tape not working for me!!! PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Hey everyone,
I've researched this in many forums and have found what could be the answer, only to try and still get NOTHING!!!
When I drag seq. to ETT window I get the pop-up but 'insert', 'assemble', and 'preview' are kind of greyed out, and don't let me drop anything in, i.e sequence from browser, from viewer, clips, etc.
GOAL:
To Output Final Sequence from FCP6 to DVCPRO HD Tape, (Panasonic 1200a Deck). WITH TIMECODE for Broadcast at 29.97/59.94!!
SPECS:
*MAC PRO-*
Quad Core Intel Xeon Processor
3 Ghz
2 Processors
8 cores
L2 Cache per proc. 8MB
Memory-8GB
Bus Speed 1.33 Ghz
Boot Rom Ver. MP21.007F.B06
SMC Ver. 1.15f3
*FCP Ver. 6.0.2*
*AJA KONA 3 Ver. 5.1*
Digital out – 720p 59.94
Control – Playback timing /Genlock - Freerun
Codec – Pattern 2:3:3:2
Timecode - Input ---RP188 LTC
- Output--- Use QT Timecode is UNCHECKED
- 30 FPS DF
*Panasonic DVCPRO HD AJ-HD1200A*
Timecode Settings –
TCG MODE – REGEN
RUN MODE - REC
TC SOURCE - INT
Footage was shot 720P 24PN on Panasonic HVX200. Ingested via P2 Cards/P2 Store, (W/ REMOVE ADVANCED PULLDOWN FRAMES checked).
Project was edited in a 23.98 timeline.
Have tried: Exporting to QT at both 29.97 and 59.94—then re-importing into FCP with a new timeline w/ matching settings.
I have been told that FCP doesn’t produce TC ‘going out’ and that essentially we are looking to 'MATCH-EDIT' to timecode on tape.
I have Black and coded tape to 00:58:50;00
Project In point is 00:59:00;02 --for all intents/purposes this is a test seq. so OUT point is 01:01:00;07
I have complete Deck Control in FCP but, the problem I’m having is not being able to use the “Edit to Tape” func. In FCP. I can Black and Code the beginning of the tape, and the “ETT” window shows the corresponding timecode on the deck, but when I go to drop the sequence in the ‘Insert’ or ‘Assemble’ drop box, I get nothing? I don’t know if it’s the settings in the DECK, KONA CARD or FCP??
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!SHOW AIRING in 2 DAYS!!!!
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TRUST ME...I have been down this path.
Shane

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Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
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