Timecode w/ FCE

if i edit together a piece in final cut express & hand it over to an editor using final cut pro will they be able to read my in & out timecode marks based on the source material timecode? ie the original tapes they'll be working off of.
thanks,
kjr55

So my editor would see my ins & outs of my rough edit on his tc display?
Does FCE allow me to print out an edit list, ie. ins & outs?

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I noticed in the FCE manual it states: Important: Some HDV camcorders do not record timecode, so you won’t be able to precisely recapture any clips if you delete the corresponding media files."
Does the HV20 record a FCE compatible timecode in both HDV and DV modes? (I searched the forum and didn't find this issue).
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Mace

You might want to google that. Or ask on the production forum. Or a DV/HDV forum. Or look in the camera's manual. This forum probably has a small base of HV20 users.
The manual is somewhat misleading. FCE converts HDV to the Apple Intermediate Codec when it captures and the timecode is lost in the conversion process.

Re: timecode w/ fce from kjr55,

I'm running fce 4

So my editor would see my ins & outs of my rough edit on his tc display?
Does FCE allow me to print out an edit list, ie. ins & outs?

FCE Timecode

Is it possible to bring in SPBeta w/ timecode using FCE and have the SPBeta timecode tagged to the import through FCE?
Mahalo for any clarity on this.

No. You need RS422 control to get the TC from a Beta deck I believe. FCE doesn't support that.

Do i lose quality from iMovie to FCE HD

Sorry to clarify that last post i am asking if i connect my camcorder to my laptop and then import the footage to iMovie and then import the clips into FCE HD if i would lose any quality from the video
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Hunter

Hunter,
There is no loss of picture quality but there are some limitations:
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- you can't "recapture" any media that originated in iMovie
- don't throw away the iMovie media files, you may need them again
- iMovie sound effects, titles, transitions, effects or iDVD chapter markers won't import.
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If I hook up my Mini DV camera to my Powermac G5 via firewire 400, is there anyway I can record video to tape and record it to my computer with timecode at the same time in Final Cut Pro? If not, then is there a program out there for Mac that will let me do this?

Timecode is always recorded by FCP during capture from your camera.
By default it is not displayed within the video frame, unless you choose to do so by adding the bundled Timecode Reader or my free filter FCE Timecode Display to the captured clips.
Both filters allow to display and burn the source timecode; the FCE Timecode Display provides a degree of additional flexibility in terms of formatting and displayed information.
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I'm having a problem after downloading video footage from my camera, the audio is in snyc on the DV tape & its come in snyc when I download into imovie but not in Final Cut? I just started having this problem within the last few weeks & have never experience it before. I don't remember doing anything differently than I have in the past, would appreciate any help.

Further to Ian's comments, iMovie captures material differently than FCE does. miniDV cams record DV Stream to the tape and iMovie captures the DV Stream directly from the camera. FCE on the other hand does not capture DV Stream, it captures DV. They are not identical. In addition, iMovie ignores the timecode but FCE requires it. As a consequence of all this, whether the actual tape was recorded at 12 bit or 16 bit audio won't make any difference to iMovie, but it will to FCE. Check your camera settings - what is the audio setting? Do you know what it was when you recorded the tape?
Second, how are you getting the material from iMovie to FCE? Are you just importing the iMovie project into FCE? What was the Easy Setup you had in FCE at the time you imported your iMovie project & created a sequence to put it in? Did you render the audio after you imported the iMovie project?
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I have recently encountered an issue with attempting to capture video from a DV camera daisy-chained through drive on a 24" iMac.
I have two drives attached to my 24" iMac - a La Cie d2 Extreme by FW800 and a generic FW400 drive. I would like to run my camera daisy-chained from either drive (so the drives themselves are plugged directly into the iMac). However, when I do this it tells me there is no video (all the VTR functions work though). If I unplug the FW400 disk from the iMac, daisy chain it off the FW800 drive, and attach the camera directly to the FW400 port, it captures nicely.
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Again, iMovie doesn't have this problem (though, if I understand correctly, it doesn't deal with the timecodes like FCE does). Any fix for this one?

I was just a bit confused with the capture bug. The same camera has been used dasiy-chained off the same physical drives under Windows and Linux without a problem -- not even a single dropped frame. iMovie can capture in the daisy-chained configuration, only FCE (3.5.1) has a problem (finds camera, VTR works, says there's no video).
The TC issue has nothing to do with the timecode on the tape -- that's fine and without any gaps at all. If you try to capture the same tape, the error will occur at a different spot each time. Further, if you rewind the tape a little and restart FCE and start the capture again, it will capture right through the part where it had a problem and go for a random amount of time before it hits another error. It's absolutely necessasry to restart FCE, because after it encounter's the timecode error once, FCE cannot capture any mode video (even from where it's captured before), though the VTR functions still work.
I've been playing around a bit, and it appears that FCE only has timecode errors when capturing to external hard disks. If you shutdown the external disks and set the capture scratch to the internal HD it works fine.
If you use any application other than FCE to capture from DV, the daisy-chain configuration works. Only FCE has an issue with this configuration.
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When glibly saying that most people would never notice the difference - YOU are one of the few who probably will!
You might need to use the original camera timecode which FCE will not do.
However, Simon and Piero developed a filter which can be applied to a clip to reveal the original TC.
It costs the princely sum of NOTHING and can be downloaded here:-
http://homepage.mac.com/heywood_si/i5m/archives/2006/01/
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I use FCE version 1 on a G4 running OSX 2.9. The most commonly recommended Free timecode plugin doesn't seem to work in my version. I install it, but it's not visible in the bins where it's supposed to show up. I tried saving it as a unix and/or unicode and all that other gobbly gook that you're supposed to try if it doesn't install properly. Anyhow, none of that helped. I can only assume it's because of my earlier version of FCE or my OSX.
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For anyone else who is actually interested in helping and can refrain from insulting me, I'm still eagerly awaiting some friendly, HELPFUL, advice.
And for the rest of you, by the way - I am a professional and as professionals know, you don't have to rely on the latest and greatest technology to get great results (if you're any good, that is). I humbly called myself a struggling artist, but my resume would put you to shame, so please, no more childish remarks.
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I'm trying to capture a video from camera miniDV.
I select "CAPTURE NOW" but after few seconds (when a scene changes), appears this error :
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http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/7316/schermata20100426a11402.png
My settings are these :
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3125/schermata20100426a11502.png
Please help me...
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Timecode breaks could be caused by:
1. Actual timecode breaks on the tape.
2. Dirty heads in the playback system.
3. Bad Firewire cable.
4. Capturing to a USB hard drive
5. Capturing to an improperly formatted hard drive
6. Capturing while an anti-virus program is running
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-DH
Message was edited by: David Harbsmeier

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I am using my FCE to capture live footage from each event that I have. I recently started to have a problem with FCE trying to locate time code breaks in the capture, which pauses the capture each time which is footage that I can't get back.
Is there some way to turn that off? I have been forced to use iMovie recently because of this problem but I really need to figure out why this problem would all of the sudden start to appear. Like I said it has worked fine for over a year and now all of the sudden it no longer works.
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dsut56 wrote:
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