Timeline out of Sync?

I've had a problem occur now and then - I start a new project and set the timeline to measures, but the cursor doesn't snap to the resolution that I set it to. It looks like it's offset so it snaps to the area between measures even when I have the resolution set to 1/1 note.
I then close the project and re-open it. The snap then works correctly, but the audio I recorded to the track isn't lines up the measures like it used to be and it glitches every couple of measures. I then have to re-record the audio to get everything in-synch again.
Anyone ever have a similar problem?

Settings?
Probably not, there is more likely something wrong with the sequence. Please do a search for "prepping your timeline for COLOR"... there are too many things to guess at.
Contrary to the advertising, there are a lot of things... imbedded/nested sequences, etc., that cannot be sent to COLOR successfully with the push of a button, especially in earlier versions.
jPo

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Settings?
Probably not, there is more likely something wrong with the sequence. Please do a search for "prepping your timeline for COLOR"... there are too many things to guess at.
Contrary to the advertising, there are a lot of things... imbedded/nested sequences, etc., that cannot be sent to COLOR successfully with the push of a button, especially in earlier versions.
jPo

Subclip has extra audio in timeline, out of sync but no sign in timeline

Ok, so, when I created a sublip and checked it in the viewer it looked and sounded perfectly in sync. Once I put it into the timeline and play it in the canvas it looks like the clip accrues an extra second or two of audio and therefore it's out of sync. However the clips don't show this. The red box that indicates how out of synch the audio and video are doesn't appear on the clips in the timeline. Why is this, how can I fix this? Thanks.

Well, I was looking in the browser at my media, which is DV and was imported using an HVX200, and I noticed that all of the tapes I imported save for one have a video rate of 24 fps, data rate of 2.9 MB per sec, and an audio rate of 48048 Hz and under field dominance it says 'None'. The exception is one that for some reason has a video rate of 29.97 fps, 3.6 MB/sec, audio rate of 48.0 KHz and under field dominance it says 'Lower (Even)'. This exception is the only material where when I sub-clip from it and put it into the timeline the material doesn't go out of sync. All of the others do go out of sync. The solution may be very simple and I don't know if I gave enough information to help you supply an answer but as you probably guessed I'm very much a beginner at this so any help would be appreciated. Thanks for the response!
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Audio timeline out of sync with audio

I took an audio note using an iphone application called Moe's Notes. I emailed the audio as an attachment to myself. The note is in .caf format but I also generated an .aif version. I dragged the audio onto the timeline in Garageband and it plays, but I noticed that the audio is out of sync with the wave display. Also, the second part of the audio recording plays, but does not visibly show up as a waveform.
Any ideas? I resorted to Audacity to edit my audio.

trash your waveform cache and see what happens when you restart the program.

Waveform Display in Timeline out of sync with Audio

This is only the case with one clip out of a capture, and happens on any sequnece I move the clip to. It was not previously the case as I used the waveforms to cut out off camera interview questions before. Now the waveform does not match the clip at all. Can anyone shed some light on this issue? Thanks!

trash your waveform cache and see what happens when you restart the program.

Audio out of sync with video in timeline SOLVED

The audio and video are in sync when playing .MP4 video (but may apply to other video files) in the Premiere Pro viewer and Windows Media Player and VLC however, as soon as you drag the clip into the timeline it goes out of sync. Since it took so much time for me to figure out how to get around this problem I wanted to share this, ESPECIALLY For all the people who are semi Adobe Premiere noobs (with no disrespect, I fall into this category) at this and google isn't helping to figure out why this is happening I'll give you the easy fix. For all the people in this forum who are going to ask the detailed information, codecs, etc. I'll give that as well.
FOR THE NOOBS:
All the information I've read online all seems to point that the timeline sometimes doesn't like certain audio contained in the video. It conforms incorrectly, etc. Personally, it doesn't make any sense to me. Forget all that.. you just want to get on with your project.. to heck with the details, you're tired of googling. Here's the solution I found. Extracting the audio from the problematic video file outside of Adobe Premiere. I use avconv, because it's free, open source, and you won't lose audio quality. Then linking that audio with the video in Adobe Premiere.
First if you are using a windows 32 bit computer download avconv here: http://win32.libav.org/win32/
If you are using a windows 64 bit computer download avconv here: http://win32.libav.org/win64/
go to the bottom of the page and click on the newest date version. DISCLAIMER: This is open source software. It's free. I didn't make it so I'm not trying to sell you anything.
It's a zip file so you will need to use winzip or 7zip to uncompress it. You can't just click on the installer. You can uncompress and save the program wherever you want on your computer. Say you didn't pay attention and you automatically saved it in the default spot in your downloads folder. The place you'd find the program might look like this if you're on a 64 bit computer:
C:\Users\youruseraccountname\Downloads\libav-9.7-win64 If you're on a 32 bit computer it will probably look like this C:\Users\youruseraccountname\Downloads\libav-9.7-win32
Just make sure you know where it is located and copy it down in notepad. If you can't find it, do a search on your C: drive for avconv .For this forum thread we will assume you have saved avconv in the downloads folder and you're on a 64 bit computer.
Click on the Windows key on your keyboard. Type in Run and then press enter. Type in CMD and press enter. This will open up windows command line. Don't worry, it's not as scary as you think.
Now hold down the Windows key and press E. This will open up a windows explorer window for you to find the video file you are having issues with in Adobe Premiere. Once you have found the file, copy the location of the file. So.. if your file was here: c:\Users\youruseraccount\videos\yourvideo.mp4 you would see that at the top of the windows explorer in what's called the address bar. Copy that. Paste it into your notepad.
Now switch back to the windows command line window. Now I'm going to have you type a command into the windows command line but before you do I want you to understand how to type it in.
#1. Do you know the exact path (location on your computer) where you installed avconv?
#2. Did you copy the exact path (location on your computer) where you have your video file?
If so.. type in the command below but change it with the information you have above
C:\Users\youruseraccountname\Downloads\libav-9.7-win64\usr\bin\avconv.exe -i "c:\Users\youruseraccount\videos\yourvideo.mp4" -vn -qscale 1 "c:\Users\youruseraccount\videos\yourvideo.wav"
So let's break it down so you understand and help troubleshoot any issues you may have.
C:\Users\youruseraccountname\Downloads\libav-9.7-win64 this is the example location we said we installed avconv. The actual avconv.exe program is located inside that folder so the full path would be this: C:\Users\youruseraccountname\Downloads\libav-9.7-win64\usr\bin\avconv.exe
-i just tells avconv what the input file is.
"c:\Users\youruseraccount\videos\yourvideo.mp4" is the path (location on your computer) where your video file is.
-vn just tells avconv you only want to extract audio from the video
-qscale 1 just tells avconv you want the best quality
"c:\Users\youruseraccount\videos\yourvideo.wav" just tells avconv the path (location on your computer) and the name you want to give the audio file you're taking from the video. This will save the audio wav file to the path (location on your computer) where the problematic video file is saved.
Once you have the audio wav file import it into Adobe Premiere. In the timeline, unlink the audio from the mp4 (or whatever video file you have). Highlight the now unlinked mp4 audio and delete the audio. Then bring your audio wav file you created using avconv and bring it onto the timeline at the start of the video. Now link it. Hopefully that did the trick.
If you have any questions regarding the command line or installing avconv please feel free to comment and ask. I'm pretty good at windows command line and can probably help identify what the issue is.
FOR THE INFORMED PREMIERE PRO USERS:
Here are the details of the problematic video file that I had this issue with. This is from avconv:
Metadata:
    major_brand     : mp42
    minor_version   : 1
    compatible_brands: mp42mp41
    creation_time   : 2013-05-12 11:45:32
Duration: 01:58:28.24, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 3256 kb/s
    Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (Constrained Baseline), yuv420p, 1280x720, 2997 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2013-05-12 11:45:32
    Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 256 kb/s
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 2013-05-12 11:45:32
I don't know the type make/model video camera that was used or if it was converted before being given to me. This is just what i had to work with and the solution I found to fix it.

if you are using a windows 32 bit computer
Then you won't be using anything above Premiere Pro CS4, and this thread would be in the wrong section.
By the way, the process is significantly easier using something like Xvid4PSP, which can strip out the audio using a fairly easy to understand GUI, as wel as convert those oddball videos into something PP can handle.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/XviD4PSP (Use version 5.)

Change of Video Frame One Sample Out of Sync with Correct Point on Timeline

Change of Video Frame One Sample Out of Sync with Correct Point on Timeline.
It has been found on the author's PC that, in Audition 3 in Multitrack View, a video file displayed in the video window will change its frame one sample later than it should do with respect to the correct point on the timeline. This has led to extra work having to be done by the author, as detailed later.
To demonstrate this issue:
Create a new multitrack session. Enable the Time and Video windows. Enable only 'Snap to Frames'.
Using an external program, render a two-frame video clip at 25fps. Let the first frame contain the letter 'A', and the second frame contain the letter 'B'. Making sure that the Display Time Format is set appropriately, in this case at 'SMPTE 25 fps (EBU)', lock this clip on the multitrack timeline, ensuring that the clip starts at time 00:00:00:00.
Create a mono audio clip of silence at 48kHz 32-bit that is two frames long. Lock it on an audio track, ensuring that the clip starts at time 00:00:00:00.
Place the cursor at time 00:00:00:01 and create a cue marker at this point by pressing F8.
Zoom into the timeline so that approximately twenty samples are visible, with the cursor lying on the cue marker in the middle of the screen. The Time window should display 00:00:00:01. The Video window should display the letter 'A'.
Move the cursor back in time (leftwards) by one sample. The Time window should change its display to 00:00:00:00, whilst the Video window should still show the letter 'A'.
Move the cursor forwards in time (rightwards) by one sample, so that it overlays the cue marker again. The Time window should change its display back to 00:00:00:01, whilst the Video window remains showing the letter 'A'.
Move the cursor forwards in time (rightwards) by one more sample. The Time window's display should remain at 00:00:00:01, but the Video window should now display the letter 'B'.
As can be seen from the above steps, the video's change of frame content occurs incorrectly one sample later than it should; the change of video frame content should occur simultaneously with the change of the frame number displayed in the Time window, which is at the point that the cue marker has been placed.
The practical effect of this issue is that it has caused the author a huge amount of extra work on an 89-minute long soundtrack-for-video timeline. There were over 1100 changes of shot which the author wished to mark by placing cue markers at the beginning of every shot. This should have been a quite simple process of enabling 'Snap to Frames', stepping through the video, and laying cue markers down by pressing F8 when the shot was seen to change.
Because currently the Video window (referencing the cursor laying over a cue marker
i that has been placed on the timeline using the 'Snap to Frames' option
) will actually display the end moments of the previous frame rather than the beginning moments of the current frame, laying down a cue marker when the shot is seen to change will actually place that marker at the beginning moments of the second frame of the new shot, not at the beginning moments of the first frame of the new shot, i.e. the cue marker placed will be one frame later in time than it should be. If it is wished for the cue marker to, as best it can, represent the beginning moments of the first frame of the new shot, it has to be manually repositioned so that it is at least a sample later in time than the time at which the shot has actually changed, in order for the Video window to correctly display the content.
The author had to manually reposition all 1100+ cue markers.
Ideally, the Video window should display a change of video frame in synchronization with the change of the frame display in the Time window, which occurs at the position of the 'Snap to Frames' point.
Part of the PC system's specification is detailed below:
Windows XP Professional Version 2002 SP3;
Adobe Audition 1.0 Build 3211.2;
Ad

obe Audition 2.0 Build 5306.2;
Adobe Audition 3.0 Build 7283.0;
ASRock 775dual-VSTA motherboard, BIOS Version P.3.00;
2.80 GHz Intel Pentium D Processor 915 2x2MB L2 Cache;
2GB DDRII 667 RAM;
Matrox G550 DualHead AGPx4 VGA card for Audition's two main work screens;
Matrox Productiva G100 MMS PCI VGA for two additional "static" information screens;
4 x PATA HDDs for OS & programs, swapfile & temp, project file sources, and guide audio;
Onboard Realtek ALC888 7.1 channel audio CODEC with High Definition audio;
Lite-On DVDRW LH-18A1P;
VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller.
ASIO4ALL version 2.8;
Via Hyperion Drivers 5.16a - (VIA Chipsets INF Update Utility V3.00A, VIA PATA IDE Driver Package V1.90, VIA SATA IDE Driver Package V2.30A, AGP V4.60A);
Matrox PowerDesk-SE 11.10.400.03;
Matrox Millennium G550 Display Driver Version 5.99.005;
Realtek High Definition Audio System Software Version R1.91, Audio Driver Version 5.10.0.5605;
DirectX 9.0c March 2008;
Microsoft .NET frameworks 1.1, 2.0 and 3.0 with all service packs.

Captivate 6 editing - on timeline, audio is out of sync after pausing

I am trying to create a software demo for my company. I am using the HD video and then have imported audio recordings over the video.
The big work portion of this project is adding call-out smart shapes on the video during certain portions to highlight what the voiceover is discussing. However, when I pause the timeline so I can add a smart shape, upon resuming from the pause, the audio is out of sync. This happens even if I hit Stop on the timeline, and use my mouse to move the playhead.
This is adding significant amounts of time to my video editing process, to the point where I am missing deadlines for having the videos created. The only solution I have found to guarantee that the call-out smart shapes are in sync with the audio instructions is to Play the timeline from the very beginning, each time after pausing the audio.
Is anyone else experiencing these issues, or know of a way to fix it? This is adding enough time to the editing process that our company is looking into other video editing softwares to replace Captivate.

I always copy the entire PRIVATE folder from camera to hard drive, and then importing from that hard drive folder in to project.
I am saing original, becouse I do not convert them to diferent format. And how could be the original files of video and audio out of sync???
I am using Premiere for 10 years, I am not new to this software, but never had this problem.

Audio is out of sync when placed in the timeline!!!

When I play a clip in the viewer, everything is fine, but when the clip is placed into the timeline and played in the canvas, the audio is out of sync by about half a second. I noticed that even when I view the sound waves, what I hear does not match up with where the playhead is. This is extremely frustrating and I have currently resulted to physically moving the audio to match it up, something that I do not want to do for the duration of my film.
I read in another post that the video and the audio could not be at the same level. How can you tell if the video and audio are at the same level??
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How was this clip imported? If it was captured/ingested, did you make sure that the sample rate of the capture settings matched the sample rate of your audio? Normally FCE will give you a warning if they don't match, but it can't hurt to make sure.

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Audio is out of sync in the timeline.
Only occurs on mpeg clips that were captured at school (unsure of the settings used to make the capture as it was done by another student). These clips play fine outside of Premiere. This problem only occurs on my system at home I have searched and cannot seem to find a solution. I assume since it works at school and not at home that it comes down to a setting or hardware on my system causing the issue just not sure where to start. Any sugguestions would be greatly appreciated

G-Spot (only returns information on the Container)
File Type: MPEG-2 Transport Stream
Mime Type: video/mp2t
MediaInfo
Format                           : MPEG-TS
Format_Commercial_IfAny          : HDV 1080i
File size                        : 3.90 GiB
Duration                         : 21mn 21s
Start time                       : UTC 2011-04-25 11:39:48
End time                         : UTC 2011-04-25 12:01:04
Overall bit rate                 : 26.1 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate         : 33.0 Mbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2011-04-25 11:39:48
Video
ID                               : 2064 (0x810)
Menu ID                          : 100 (0x64)
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format_Commercial_IfAny          : HDV 1080i
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@High 1440
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=15
Codec ID                         : 2
Duration                         : 21mn 21s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 25.0 Mbps
Width                            : 1 440 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Standard                         : Component
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.536
Stream size                      : 3.64 GiB (94%)
Audio
ID                               : 2068 (0x814)
Menu ID                          : 100 (0x64)
Format                           : MPEG Audio
Format version                   : Version 1
Format profile                   : Layer 2
Codec ID                         : 3
Duration                         : 21mn 21s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                 : Lossy
Delay relative to video          : -33ms
Stream size                      : 58.7 MiB (1%)

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Learning to use Final Cut Express. Clip plays in browser with audio in time with video but as soon as clip is dragged onto timeline the audio goes out of sync. Why? Please can anyone help because its driving me mad!

You don't give any details as to FCE's settings, camera format or your workflow so I can only hazard a guess.
One of the main reasons that audio goes out of sync is because the Easy Setup audio settings do not match the camera's audio settings.
The default setting is for 16bit (48KHz) but your camera may be shooting 12bit (32KHz audio).
If this is the case you need to recapture using the 32KHz Easy Setup.

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The job: 700 adverts from PAL and NTSC from 40 U-Matics - choose 300 and make an NTSC DVD compilation.
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I created subclips for each ad on each tape.
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I noticed that the PAL clips' audio cut out early. I displayed the audio waveforms for the clip - the waveform wasn't cut off - it was in sync with the end of the clip, Final cut was playing the audio late and cutting it off to match the video.
I exported the edit (to check if there was a delay in the playback of the audio on my machine), the actual output had the audio out of sync too.
When I exported the subclip as a QuickTime movie and reimported it, placed this new PAL movie on the NTSC timeline, the cut off didn't happen.
Surely the subclip and the exported QuickTime movie should behave the same on the same timeline.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Is this a known bug in Final Cut?
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How was this clip imported? If it was captured/ingested, did you make sure that the sample rate of the capture settings matched the sample rate of your audio? Normally FCE will give you a warning if they don't match, but it can't hurt to make sure.

MP4 clips out of sync when dropping onto my timeline and I can't fix it.

I'm trying to drop some mp4 clips onto my timeline in CS6 Premier Pro. The problem is the audio keeps going out of sync. It plays fine elsewhere but for some reason doesn't sync up properly in the timeline and I can't fix it. It looks like the video is slower than the audio/ the audio is quicker. When the clip is on the timeline it has a green line above it where as everything that is in sync has a yellow line. All clips have been imported from my internal drive. I'm using a Macbook Pro 2.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5. Does anyone know how to fix this?

What is the source of your clips, and do they possibly use a Variable Frame Rate instead of a Constant Frame Rate?
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... A screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/592070?tstart=30 for screen shot instructions
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NTSC 29,97 NDF Timeline - Audio out of sync !!! need urgent help

hi everybody,
currently we edit a project in NTSC 29,97 NDF. We got an EDL from the audio edit studio and a final audio master as AIFF, all in 29,97 NDF. In the next step I captured the EDL (video files), worked very good, and finally I took the audio master file and pasted it into my sequence. My entire project takes 45 minutes, but my audio master file is 3 seconds longer - this is crazy; when I look to the waveform in the sequence, its sync, but when I play the sequence, I do not hear the shown waveform. In the beginning its sync, then ists running out of sync, and until the end its 3 seconds out of sync. Is this a bug of FCP? anybody knows?
When I open both files (audio and video) in ProTools or Soundtrack Pro, and play them, they are totally in sync, therefore, I think, the bug is in FCP. I read in the forum that I should make the audio 0.1 % quicker, than it should work, this is the factor between DF and NDF, but I think its just a work around.
please help,
thx in advance
Michael

Michael,
A trick I used back in the good old days of film to solve this problem (frequently referred to as "drifting") is to make two "beeps" on your timeline. They are one frame each, and are placed ten seconds before your program begins, and ten seconds after it ends. Obviously, have a visual to sync the beeps to for that one frame on the head and the tail.
Now, drag your aiff file, with the new beeps onto the timeline.
Sync the 1st file's 1st beep up to the 1st beep.
Sync the 2nd file's 2nd beep up to the 2nd beep.
Now, create a third aiff and drag it directly in the middle of the other two on the timeline.
So, now you will have three separate aiffs.
Now it's time to go in and do some surgery. Choose moments in the program where there is no dialog or music (idealy ambient sound only) and chop up your three aiff's.
Use the 1st aiff for the first 1/3 of the program,
the middle aiff for the 2/3 of the program... and so on.
You can now export a new aiff that will marry these three separated ones together.
This has worked for me in the past.
Also, it sounds like you could be dealing with a 24Pa audio lag issue. If the DVX 100 was used on your shoot, I recommend using the final cut plug in for adjusting 24Pa audio.

How do you 'fix' samples in the timeline so they cant be moved out of sync?

I am audio editing imported final cut pro files with sound and picture. The problem i am having is when i double click on individual samples, i sometimes nudge them left or right - out of sync with the picture. After 2 days editing i estimate i have spent half that time trying to re-sync stuff manually - a nightmare. In Logic you can 'fix' all your samples so they can be moved across tracks, but not within the timeline. Any suggestions appreciated.

Hi Mathrah,
I haven't found a way to lock the clips--I don't think STP lets you do this.
Here are a few things to consider:
1) You might want to tweak your double-click mouse timing in System Preferences. I'm suggesting this because (at least the way I'm using the app) I've never run into this.
2) You can always control-click/right-click on a clip and select "open as project" or "open in editor" --this would make sure that you aren't moving the clip as you open it.
Also, if you actually do want to move clips across tracks and not have them move in time, you can hold down the shift key while you drag to lock the clip on the timeline as you drag the clip up and down.
Now my last point makes me wonder if you could just always hold down the shift key when you double click on the clips to edit them (locking their horizontal position while you double-click)--this might be worth a try.

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