Timescale for fcp workflow

hi, I am trying to price some future jobs which will involve editing 75 mins multicamera concert from mixed formats possibly from 2 x 7d canon camera a z5 hdv and a mini camera hxr mc-1 recording to avchd
I am new to editing in these formats and seeking advice for the rough time it will take to import convert, render, pro res etc and export to dvd. so i can price the job correctly.
many thanks

This sounds like it could be a great job or a nightmare job.
A key to keeping this project in the "great job" range is to stipulate (in writing) how the footage needs to be delivered and that any variation will result in an hourly rate to correct the issue. For example, you might stipulate that each camera have recorded in 1080i 60 mode. If one of them comes back in 24p mode, then that's lost time to convert and you can submit a quote to correct it or correct it at an hourly rate.
(Actually, you might suggest that the same camcorders be used all around. Your AVCHD camcorder may come back with a dramatically different picture than your DSLR.)
Probably the best way for you to come up with some realistic numbers is to benchmark your workstation.
Shoot 10 minutes of video with a DSLR camera, a HDV camcorder and an AVCHD camcorder.
Then, start a timer. Copy the DSLR files over and convert the 10 minutes worth of footage in Compressor. Connect the HDV camcorder, capture the 10 minutes of footage from tape, then convert it in Compressor. Log and Transfer the 10 minutes of footage from the AVCHD storage media.
(I assume you'll be using Apple ProRes 422 HQ?)
Do this and anything else that will be needed to have the footage ready to edit.
Sync the clips to the audio. Edit the clips into something. Sweeten the audio (or add the audio?). Add title cards. Etc.
Export to a self-contained QuickTime.
Encode the edited master to MPEG2 and AC3.
Author, build and format to DVD. (Will menus need to be designed, integrated and programmed, or are the DVDs going to be play only?)
Stop the timer.
However long that takes, triple it (or at least double it).
In addition to getting an idea of how long it takes your computer to process that data, you need to have a sense of how long it will take you to do everything.
Are you doing this alone? In which everything needs to happen in sequence. Or, will you have a team? In which everything can be happening in parallel (while you're ingesting footage someone else can be designing menus). That will also affect how long it takes.
Anyway... that's my two cents worth. (And, if you needed a consultant, let me know --wink, wink.)
-Warren

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