Title and Action Safe guides

Hi,
I am finally at the stage where we are going to start shooting some footage and testing our compositions on our project. My next big step, is to get my head around Action/Title safe areas. We are shooting for 16:9 widescreen, HD TV, but am i supposed to take the smaller standard TV screens into account? Keeping in mind that I am very new at this, I am getting confused between the zones and guides on AE. I see the centre-cut guides (for the smaller TV screens I guess) and then the normal guides for widescreen. If I compose all my shots for the standard TV screen, that means I will need to make up a lot of wasted space around them for the widescreen TV.
Once again, I know this is an AE forum, but I am using the excuse that AE has the guides, and thats what I am trying to understand! :-)
Any suggestions would be appreciated, or even some links to external forums or sites?
Thanks guys.
Pierre

Thank you for the reply.
Ill aim for the widescreen safety as you suggest. I have taken several shots of the characters now, using different lighting styles etc. Next week will be dedicated to Keylight. I am quite familiar with it, but want to get really really deeply involved. I am going to spend some time with multi passes and different tests.
Soon, (hopefully) I will be able to tell you all where to check out our work! :-)
Thanks again for the feedback.
Pierre

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I understand the recomandations about the Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area (PDF p215).
I am wondering if this is still acurate today, considering many people in the U.S have widescreen TVs. I`m just wondering if anybody still have a TV that only shows the Title safe area?
Also, on a Widescreen TV, is there any chance to have only the Action safe area?
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I very much doubt anyone has a TV that only displays title safe area and nothing outside of it... the Title Safe area is a percentage reduction from the outer edge of the image. If a TV is showing in the 4:3 aspect ratio, any image will be sized appropriately to fit, and the title safe will be proportional... 10% in from the outer edge.
The title safe area originally existed to allow for text to be showing without too much distortion on a curved TV screen. The Action safe area simply extended beyond this to the edge of the screen, and is 5% in from the edge of the footage.
In the days of CRT sets, the glass screen has a plastic bezel which masks the very edge of the screen, meaning the image disappears neatly behind it. Action safe areas are just those that will appear beyond the bezel and be visible, but which might distort sightly due to the curvature of the glass.
On a computer screen the entire image is seen regardless, as the geometry of the screen is adjusted to appear within the entire display, and so AS and TS areas don't really apply.
Whether or not your screen is widescreen doesn't matter, it's all about pixel aspect ratios. The image is displayed proportionately, and the visible areas are the same from screen to screen. When setting up photoshop images with guides to show AS and TS, you'll find that the TV image is 720px wide, and the guides are set at 36px from the left and right for the AS, and 72px in for the TS. The vertical size differs between NTSC and PAL, and thus the guides are positioned differently, but still 5 and 10% respectively.

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High Definition (1920 x1080) with 4:3 Graphics safe and 14:9 Action Safe areas
14:9 Action Safe = 80% of 16:9 Width . 93% of Height
4:3 Graphics Safe = 65% of 16:9 Width . 90% of Height
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

Thanx for posting that.
BTW: See Page 11 for the way BBC prescribe setup for Safe action Area.
Like NZ BC..it describes the inclusive safe area. Not like Premieres (screwy excluded area setup)
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'Title Safe' and 'Action Safe' boundaries

I assume that the 'Title Safe' area is the boundaries where the Title should not exceed, and that the Action Safe' area is a boundary that the action should not exceed. However, does this mean that nothing will show beyond those boundaries, or that you might run the risk of cutoff if they are exceeded?
Thanks!

Hi(Bonjour)!
All material that is outside the action safe zone cannot be viewed on a TV set, but will be seen on a computer screen.
+Broadcast monitors+ are designed to display this area too.
Try your camcorder by frame the action very close the edges and look the clip in viewer. You should see the extra area. Some pro camcorders do offer an showing overscan feature to monitor this area upon shooting.
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Title and action borders...

Hello - I have noticed that when I keep photos within the 'action safe' border, they appear to go 'off the screen' on my tv, when I connect the computer, and view the project. Is this because of the size of my tv - not sure of the exact measurements, but it is on the 'small side'... But, as I said, I do keep within the borders, so will it be dependent on what someone else's tv will be like, to see if they will be able to view the entire photo? This is especially prevalent when I add borders to the photos - I would like it if all 4 sides can be seen, rather than having one side cut off - ok, thanks so much!

That's exactly why I view final output on a small tube tv. My set seems to take me to just inside action safe. Rule of thumb...if you can see and hear it on a bad set you're probably okay overall. You should always output to a monitor anyway so you know what your final product is likely to be.
Remember as well that all sets vary. Even inside of a editing suite monitors vary. That's why waveform/vector scopes are used. These tell you true video, black and chroma levels rather than trusting your eye.
It used to drive me crazy when client said, "I like the color "red" on the right hand monitor. Can I have that color red?" So I said that yes of course they could. No use explaining that all monitors vary.

Basic Title safe and action safe zones questions

1.) Why is it that a title needs to be within the inner square, otherwise it may not display on a TV, though action can still take place in the outer square outside the title safe zone and it is still fine?
2.) Do these zones apply to CRT televisions, LCD, Plasmas, and video intended for being displayed through a projector the same way?
Thanks.

1. Safe area and safe title were developed many years ago, back when folks had TV sets with rounded corners. There was a real risk that a title would not be displayed in full if it went outside the boundary.
Pictures are interpretated differently to text. If say, someones left shoulder and arm are out of picture, it is obvious what is missing. An incomplete title can easily be misunderstood or not understood at all.
2. Unless you have absolute control over the device which will be displaying your movie, apply the rules to everything.

Is there a quick way to fit everything in the Title/Action Safe Areas ?

Hi,
(sorry in advance for my english, I'm a french canadian)
I built a complete DVD without realizing that I should consider the "Safe Areas" (see my first post : "Formatting in 4:3 but image is still stretched on a 4:3 TV. What the... ?"), so now I'm stuck with a 12 hours project that show only some part on TV.
Something strange too is that I first thought what was shown corresponded to the "Action Safe Area", but I just realized that both sides are cut like the "Title Safe Area" and top/bottom are cut like the "Action Safe Area". It's not one or the other, it's a mix of both. What causes that ?
What I need to know now is if there is a way to compress all the DVD or make everything to fit quickly in the viewable area so I will not have to fit everything one by one.
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The 4:3 simulation mode should specifiate the overscanning process in the application when we use it, so it would solve a lot of problem in the first place.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9695813#9695813
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Edited by: hammad on Sep 4, 2009 5:48 PM
Edited by: hammad on Sep 4, 2009 5:49 PM

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I'm a "newbie" who is very eager to learn everthing I can about post-production using Final Cut Studio . . . I was going to reply to an archived post but not sure if anyone would stil be viewing that topic. Sorry if this is a well weathered question!
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Welcome to the forums, JayMac.
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