Title Safe for video..

So I just looked at a sample of my project on a TV and its cut off. What I'm doing now is exporting, re importing to FCE, turning on title safe, and scaling the entire video down to that first border (in between the 2 lines). Will that solve the problem or will it give me a black line around the video on a TV?
To illustrate what I'm talking about: If this is a segment of title safe (the tv safe and title safe lines)
| v | + | v | The v is where I'm scaling my video boarder to.

The approach is correct, but the amount of scaling is very dependent on the TV. If you scale it to the second internal blue rectangle in the canvas (title safe) for sure you'll also have a black border around your video. In my experience it is sufficient to think of a rectangle slightly larger than the larger rectangle. But as I said it depends on the TV.
In my opinion the best approach is to avoid titles to exceed the title safe area, and important action to be close to the borders.
If you can connect your Mac to your TV using firewire (and a A/D converter - your camcorder might be used for that), you may monitor the effect of scaling directly on the TV during editing.
Piero

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Title safe for widesceen

I am doing a show in widescreen now for the first time and was wondering if I should still use the title safe for the top and bottom. very stupid ? just wanted to know

Yes indeed. Only in the rarest of instances will a TV - even a 16:9 HD one - not use overscan to crop out some of the image.
Even if you are talking about shooting/editing in 16:9 but delivering a letterboxed (in 4:3) version for TV (so that there is no danger of overscan cropping from the top/bottom), it's still a good idea not to have text get too close to the edge.

Is "Title Safe" Safe?

Having just finished a dance show DVD which my kids were in, I gave it to them to do quality control, order correction, spelling, etc. They chucked it at the DVD player and immediately pressed the blue button till the picture filled the screen, so my titles at the end were less than how I planned.
My question is "How relevant is Title Safe today"? Do editors do title safe for HD even though their work may well be shown on 4:3 or any other ratio and visa versa?

There are multiple guidelines for where titles are placed. Generally today's TVs show more picture than the sets of old.
If I understand you question correctly, your source video is 16:9 HD. You placed your titles within title safe on a 16:9 display, but your kids blow the picture up upon viewing. Esentially doing a center extraction. The 16:9 title safe guides are not designed to ensure that your titles stay within a 4:3 center extracted picture. They only ensure that on a 16:9 display, or in a letterbox, your titles will be within the active picture area of a monitor. If you need to keep titles within a 4:3 safe area on 16:9 material, then you need to place custom guides over your video when you place titles.
Title safe is extremely relevant today, but you need to know what your final delivery specs are. For those of us who deliver shows to broadcast and cable nets we are given delivery specs before we even start editing. So we know going in if the program will be shown letterboxed or center extracted when it hits the air. This determines where and how titles will be placed.

Action/Title Safe Areas

I am having problems setting up guides for safe areas and I wondered if
anyone else had some advice or tips.
In the Preferences under Grids & Guides the Action Safe and Title Safe are
preset to 10% and 20% respectively. But this relates to the size of the
comp, I am working in HD so my comp is 1920 x 1080 and the Title/Action safe
guides are set proportional to that. However in reality I have to set my
Title Safe area to be Title Safe for 4:3 within a 16:9 HD comp for
international sales to countries still using 4:3 TV.
If I change the value for the Title Safe area in the Preferences to say 30%
to show a guide closer to the 4:3 safe area I need to adhere to it changes
BOTH the width and the height so the width might be accurate but the height
is way out. On top of that I also have to work with 14:9 Title Safe areas
for some projects too so I'd like to see those.
I can drag guidelines to sit over the correct areas but this a pain as the
guides are just for each individual comp not all the nested comps I work
with when making the animation so I have to make them anew for every comp
and project to make sure text is safe, I can't just click on the Action/Safe
when I want to see it.
I downloaded a Photoshop comp from the BBC in the UK and have been importing
that as an overlay to check my Title safe but I really wanted to know if I
am missing something. Avid Media Composer for example shows guides for
widescreen comps 14:9 Action Safe, 14:9 Title Safe, 4:3 Action Safe and 4:3
Title Safe, is there nothing I can do in After Effects to have the guides
permanently set to multiple safe areas or even just the correct height and
width for 4:3 safe within a 16:9 comp?
Thanks in advance.
BBC links if anyone is interested:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/artwork1.shtml

Many thanks for those links silversurfer. When I compare them to the ones I
got from the BBC they don't match up though; your Action Safe is their 3:4
picture area and your Title Safe is wider than their Action Safe. This is
the other issue I have run into, that different broadcasters have different
specifications.
The guides the BBC give as safe margins for 4:3 Title Safe within a 16:9
widescreen frame are 10% top and bottom and 20.5% left and right. Doing the
math for an HD 16:9 frame makes a box 1132 pixels wide by 864 high with the
margins set at 394px left, 1526px right, 108px bottom and 972px top. (Their
4:3 Action Safe is 5% top and bottom and 17% left and right.)
It would be great in CS4 to be able to set templates that can quickly be
called up across comps and projects, the single percentage option they have
right now for both width and height is pretty useless. I have been importing
a Photoshop template but it's an inelegant kludge.
I was hoping I was being dumb and had missed a vital feature, but it seems
not! :-(

Flag for overriding TV zoom function? Or title-safe settings for zoomed video...

Here's the problem: I've got SD spots with correctly set up title-safe graphics. However, I keep seeing the spots playing on HD TV's where the picture has been set to zoom/stretch, and consequently the title graphics are stretching off-screen.
So the question's actually a two-parter: Is there a flag I can set in my video that will override an HD set's zoom function and force my spots to play unstretched on these TV's? Or (part two), what graphics boundary settings would I have to use to keep my title graphics on-screen even it the video is zoomed?
Regarding part two, yeah, I could experiment and find out the settings that will work, but I figure someone's run into this before and has an answer, which would save me a bunch of time...
Thanks in advance...

Is there a flag I can set in my video that will override an HD set's zoom function
Thank God, no! It's bad enough that disk authors can take away our right to skip FBI warnings and all the other BS on a DVD before we actually get to the movie.

Title Safe Overlays for just TV or Web also?

Do the title safe overlays need to be viewed only when editing video intended for broadcast TV or should they also be used when editing web video?
Thanks.

Those are just for TV...the web shows the entire frame.
Shane

Specs and workflow for creating opening/closing titles for video

I'm trying to create specs/workflow for videos that I will be adding opening and closing titles to (black background with colored text), using QuickTime Player 7 (Pro).
The videos are .mov, AVC coding, 1280x720, millions, 30fps, a sample video had a data rate of 7,463 kbits/second.
I created 1280x720 300dpi (perhaps I should have used 72dpi?), saved as a .jpg (highest quality), then copied the .jpg contents into a QuickTime Player 7 (Pro) blank document multiple times until I had enough frames for my need. The resultant video was very large; 339,743 kbps/second. I then exported to H.264, which brings the data rate down to only 214 kbits/second (and looks fine) and then copied that into the head of my AVC coding video.
Questions:
1) When I exported to H.264, the x pixels increased by 6, to 1286. After pasting that video into the AVC coding (1280x720) video, the resultant movie is 1280x720. Did my graphic get compressed by 6 pixels horizontally?
2) Does my method of converting the huge graphic movie to H.264, and then pasting it into the AVC coding make sense? The combined video has AVC coding, according to Movie Inspector; does the H.264 of the graphic get converted automatically? Any better way to approach creating my titles?
Note: these AVC coding videos may get converted to H.264 for some use, but for now, I'm keeping the highest quality (source) video I have to work with.
Thanks,
Bob

"First, tell use why you're not using FCP's titling and keying capabilities."
I don't own FCP.
"Then, explain why you're doing it this way."
I'm able to create graphics with plenty of control in a graphics program (PhotoShop in this case).
"There is no dpi in video, there are only pixels."
Sorry, I posted my thread then realized I left out a bit of info, but couldn't edit the post. I should have written that I created my graphics file in PhotoShop, hence the dpi reference.
"A black background for text is not the same as using an alpha channel."
OK. The portion of my video with titling stands by itself; that is, I'm not overlaying titles on existing video. Is there a use for alpha channel if I'm working up standalone title video frames? Uses less data rate?
It seems from your inference I would be best served by purchasing FCP, so I'll probably take that advice and buy it.
From a general video production point of view, I'd still like to learn more about creating titles in a graphics app and bringing them into QT Player; what format to bring them in as (e.g., H.264 into an AVC coding video, as I've done, or ?), and what happens when my graphics video gets converted from 1280x720 to 1286x780 (AVC export to H.264), and then brought into an AVC codec movie, and the movie remains at 1280x720-- does the graphic get horizontally widened, or the vertical compressed? Thanks.
Bob

4:3 title safe zone overlay for 16:9 anamorphic DV PAL timeline?

Hey guys,
I'm working on a widescreen TVC, and I need to be sure that the titles are safe for 4:3. Is there a way to bring up 4:3 safe zones on a 16:9 DV PAL Anamorphic timeline? Or will I need to design an overlay in Photoshop?
Pete

Do you have FCP 7? Those are built in. Although they are notches, not full lines. If not...well, even if so, you can use these. They are GREAT! I use them. Andy's Guides:
http://web.mac.com/andymees/Freeand_Easy/main/Entries/2008/1/29_Andy’sGuides.html
Shane

Crop marks for Center Cut in Title Safe?

I have recently picked up Premiere Pro 5.5 after the whole Final Cut Pro X fiasco, and a feature I loved and used all the time in Final Cut Pro 7 which was missing in Final Cut Pro X was crop marks for Center Cut in the title safe. I often have to do HD Projects that are broadcast on 4:3 TV center cut, so you need to make all the graphics for the center cut for SD, and then leave safe space for the HD version.
From what I can see I don't see these marks in Premiere Pro 5.5. Is there a place for feature requests for Premiere Pro, so I can put in a request as this is something that is really necessary in our production workflow.

Well, PrPro's Titler has the Center Align for both Vertical & Horizontal, but for guides, etc., it is lacking.
I use the tips in this ARTICLE to create alignment guides, as per my needs.
I have been filing Feature Requests for years, and have also asked for many of the element Alignment functions from PS.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS - I also create custom guides/grids for PiP, where I need to match the Scale & Position for the PiP footage.
PPS - I assume that you have looked at Title & Action Safe marks, and they just do not do it for what you need.

Which MacBook Pros are safe to buy used and not recalled for video graphics/display failure (due to overheating)?

I've had some bad luck with MacBook Pros lately. I bought a 2010 model but it was effectively a Total Loss because of a vehicle accident. From searching with Google, people have reported logic board failures. Who knows if mine would've failed, too.
Then I bought an older 2009 MacBook Pro and that eventually failed due to the graphics chip failure. There was a recall on it but the problem occured JUST after the recall period expired. I don't have a microwave solder lying around or a proper setup to fix the problem myself.
Now, I im in the market for a used MacBook Pro, as a gift (I can't afford a new one right now) (with the luck I have, I'm basically done with them but the person wants one).
I've seen some 2011 models priced quite attractively, which caused me to do a quick check and find that the (early) 2011 models also have video graphic failures. I don't get it. I understand paying for the name, but the name also has to have reliability and you don't hear about video graphics failures from some of the more well known PC manufacturers..just saying.
I'd strongly prefer to not purchase any retina models, if at all possible. I want a mechanical SATA HDD and an optical drive. I oppose proprietary components -- as I understand it, the retina models make it nearly impossible to upgrade.
Which used MacBook Pros are safe for purchase? In other words, which ones do not have recalls or are susceptible to video graphics/display failures? I don't want to put the money down for one, only to hear it kicked the bucket and it needs service and is out of warranty.
Thank you for your time.

WindowsGreaterThanUnix wrote:
I've seen some 2011 models priced quite attractively, which caused me to do a quick check and find that the (early) 2011 models also have video graphic failures.
I have an early 2011 MBP and have haad zero problems since it was new.

Using 4:3 title safe while in widescreen project.

I work for a news network and often times, we'll mix standard definition video with HD content. Is there a way to get the title safe to 4:3 while in the widescreen HD project? Whenever I choose title safe, it comes up as widescreen and I can't change it anywhere. If this isn't available in the current version of FCP, can it be made one please!?

Unfortunatly, FCP can't show a 4:3 title/action safe on a 16:9 frame.
The only work-around is to make one yourself in photoshop and plonk it over your clips when needed... not ideal, but does the job.

Title Safe Modification

I am wondering, is there a way to change the perameters for the Title Safe image that you can toggle on and off? I'd love to have cinemascope title safe bars available. In the past, I've just created a 1920x1080 photoshop document, with black bars at the top and bottom, and just put that above all my video during editing. When exporting, I just crop it out, something like 14%... but I'm wondering if there's a more efficient way to do this DURING the editing process, rather than having to place the PS document over all the video on a hovering video timeline. Any thoughts? I've Googled around, but didn't see anything that immediately popped out as a solution, other than to just crop during export. But what I'm trying to do is have an established guideline during editing, so that I can properly place the video and adjust to match eyelines and all that. Thanks for your thoughts!

Thank you very much. That's exactly what I needed.
Good news, and thank you for posting the setting for Cinemascope too.
If that does it for you, perhaps read over this article: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1058744?tstart=0
Good luck,
Hunt

What is outside the Title Safe Area?

I am a bit confused b y the explanation (in the manual) of the Title Safe Area and Action Safe Area (p.215). The manual states that these settings indicate, "... portions of the menu that may not be viewable on most consumer monitors." Is there any way to determine that on the computer screen, or is it pot luck depending on the individual TV? Does it also depend on whether the TV is a rear projection, plasma, or LCD?
Since I am using one of my images as the background for the menu, I'd like to know how much of the image might be cropped.
Barry

My experience is confined to PAL. Image sizes for NTSC are different. As I understand it, Title Safe and Action Safe areas do not exist in, and are irrelevant to, the widescreen (16:9) format when displayed on a 16:9 TV. This is because every pixel of a widescreen video is always shown on a widescreen TV (assuming that the DVD player has been set to 16:9, see below). Title/Action Safe areas are only necessary for displaying widescreen video on 4:3 format TVs. This is because the Powers That Be decided that widescreem video should be shown slightly enlarged on a 4:3 TV. This gives a larger and therefore clearer image compared to full Letterboxing where the full width of the widescreen image is shown but with inevitably wider black bars at top and bottom. However, this enlargement causes parts of the widescreen image at left and right to be cropped on most TVs, which is usually no great loss.
On the display settings, for movies in widescreen (16:9), I set the display options in the following places:
1. DVD SP > Preferences > Encoding Set "Aspect Ratio" to 16:9
2. DVD SP > Preferences > Simulator Set "Aspect" to 16:9
3. In the Menu Inspector for each menu, Menu Tab, set "Aspect Ratio" to 16:9, and do this before setting the Menu Background image and its Overlay file (otherwise the Overlay file will not register accurately with the Menu Background image, at least that is the case with my outfit - DVD SP 3.0
4. Set each Video Track to 16:9 To do that, activate the Graphical Tab in the window at top left of the screen, select the track, and in the now-visible Track Inspector (General Tab) I set "Mode" to "16:9 (Letterbox)" because my TV is 4:3. (It is tempting to assume that if the TV is widescreen, you would set it to "16:9", but with my setting of "16:9 (Letterbox)" the DVD also displayed correctly on two widescreen TVs available to me (ie., it filled the whole screen). I don't know what display setting the owners had on their DVD players.
5. Finally, the DVD player needs to be set to 16:9 (if the TV is physically 16:9), or to 4:3L if the TV is 4:3 (at least, that works for me).
So there is quite a lot of setting to do to get the correct display. I am surprised that Apple did not offer a single setting in Preferences to cover all this. Perhaps DVD SP 4 or 5 does.
G5/2.0 GHz Mac OS X (10.3.9) 1 GB RAM, 150 GB HD, Sony DCR-HC96 mini DV, FCE HD 3.0 DVD SP 3

Title Safe Frame problem

I am encountering a problem with the text location in the Viewer and the Canvas when using the Title Safe frame. When the Viewer shows the text in the Title Safe frame, the Canvas shows a few letters are outside the frame. I have decided to use what I see in the Canvas since that reflects what is in the Timeline. Is this what I should use? Why do they show the text in different positions?

Hi Ian: Here is my progress report.
This will bring you up to date on my burning problem. It is a little long but explains how this is a continuing problem that does not seem to have a solution.
Tom wrote to me in reply to my burning problem about size - mainly the size of free space required. I commented about marking i and o for a very short 7 minute sequence, exporting to QT and trying to burn a DVD. Even then I had a 34506 error (which I think is a size issue) and the ususal multiplexing comment. Tom said: “I don’t think iDVD’s that smart. It may hold space for a full disc regardless of your content, which is probably why the write out is so long”. He is certainly right.
I went back to my desktop, selected the QT MOVIE icon and found the size was 9.35 GBs. I then learned that for this movie I had put i and o marks for a 44 minute movie, BUT did not notice that “Self Contained” was checked.
Then I went back to the desktop and found the PROJECT icon that I had saved and this one showed 6 MB. I opened this PROJECT and deleted everything past the 44 minutes, which resulted in a project or sequence size of 3.8 MB. I then exported this to QT MOVIE. It then showed the size to be 5.8 GB – too large to burn on a DVD, if all of it is burned when you click on burn. I have used the i and o approach on some of my other sequences and they burned only the selected portion. Doesn’t iDVD encode the movie and compress and expand it? Tom was right. Putting i and o markers did not reduce the size of the QT movie. Amazing. The guidelines I have read say to select the part of your project you want to export by placing i and o in the project, then export to QT. The entire movie seems to be exported anyway, even though it may burn only part of it. Does this make any sense?
Continuing, I then reduced the size of the PROJECT to 30 minutes. That resulted in a QT movie of 3.8 GB. I still could not burn a DVD.
The part I do not understand is how I was able to burn the first four DVDs. The first one is 1 hr. 13 min. with 468 still photos and 160 movie clips. The second one is 1 hr. 8 min. with 191 still photos and 240 movie clips. The third one is 56 minutes with 116 still photos and 209 movie clips. The fourth one is 53 minutes etc. I had very few problems burning these four DVDs. I cannot burn DVD #5, which is only 44 minutes. Can anyone explain why? Something must be set incorrectly, but I can’t figure out what it is.
As for trying to burn using Disk Utility, I have not been successful. I get to a certain point and get “not enough space”. Could QT be causing the problem? I followed you guidelines, but am not familiar with one part: :"You can then burn it to CD/DVD in Disk Utility just as you would any other disk". Ian, I know little about using Disk Utility. Could you give me more guidelines here?
I now have 40 GB free on my HD, have trashed preferences, rendered both video and audio, mixdown, exported to QT and again tried to burn the 44 minute project, and again the same messsage, that is, 3506 error and multiplexing error.
If you can’t burn an FCE HD project what good is it - even if the main problem is not with FCE HD?
I am also posting this to Tom since he replied to my “Burn Problem” post. Does anyone have a solution? Could iDVD be corrupted? Sorry this is so long. John

Basic Title safe and action safe zones questions

1.) Why is it that a title needs to be within the inner square, otherwise it may not display on a TV, though action can still take place in the outer square outside the title safe zone and it is still fine?
2.) Do these zones apply to CRT televisions, LCD, Plasmas, and video intended for being displayed through a projector the same way?
Thanks.

1. Safe area and safe title were developed many years ago, back when folks had TV sets with rounded corners. There was a real risk that a title would not be displayed in full if it went outside the boundary.
Pictures are interpretated differently to text. If say, someones left shoulder and arm are out of picture, it is obvious what is missing. An incomplete title can easily be misunderstood or not understood at all.
2. Unless you have absolute control over the device which will be displaying your movie, apply the rules to everything.

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