Title vs Version Name

Hi!!
I have iPhoto and Aperture libraries combined. I use aperture library as a main one and aperture as a edit and work with photos and iPhoto to see it.
In Aperture we have to fields to name a photo. Version Name and Title. I think that in aperture version name in a kinda of working name for organizing, and title is something more poetic that not all photos have to have.
The problem for me here is I cannot show the title field in iPhoto. Are someway to do this?
Thanks in advance!

You're welcome.
Then it's not possible.

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