Titles from motion look lousy in FCP

When I import some relatively simple not embedded titles made in motion 4, where they looked great, into FCP they look ragged and totally unacceptable. Figure I am doing something wrong since I am not very familiar with motion.

http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/motion_text_in_fcpspencer.html

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Why Does Text From Livetype & Motion Look Bad in FCP?

Am I doing something wrong?
When I design a simple project in Livetype or Motion with white text on a black background, the text looks really bad (very unsharp and not straight lines) once it is rendered out as an NTSC DV Movie. Really, it isn't only FCP that displays it this way. When I open the file in Quik Times Player, it looks just a bad. Is there some setting you can think of that might cause this? Any advice is welcome. Thanks!
PowerMac g5 2.3 Mac OS X (10.4.8) Final Cut Studio 5.1

Neither Canvas nor QT Player really constitute monitoring.
Ideally you should be looking at an external CRT to see what you've got.
Lacking that, set your Canvas to 100% and uncheck Square Pixels so at least you're seeing pixel for pixel.
Set RT to Safe.
Set your render settings to the highest all around. This is done unfortunately in several places.
Check the Motion tab for your Motion and Livetype imported clips. Make sure they aren't being resized.
Check back.

Text and graphics from Motion look (lacey) after compression??

I have switched from DV to HDV.
I have always made my dvd menu's in Motion, and when making them for DV format they looked good.
Everything looks good until I compressed it to MPEG 2 for the dvd.
The text look (liney) or like they need de-interlaced.
Any suggestions?

I noticed that too' .. although my draft-1, text is de-interlaced. I experimented with Live-fonts, some work better than others .. An Example, Intro-text is smooth, but following is different font: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-321851 .. better on YouTubeHD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WynkWhC8u8

Scrolling text from motion too fast in fcp

Help!
I tried using motion 4 for scrolling text but it scrolls too fast... it scrolls perfect speed in motion but when I open it up in fcp 7.0 it goes faster.
my sequence settings match for fcp and motion 4.
I have tried auto, custom and fixed .
I have played with scroll rate mulitplier
I have shortened and lengthened the timeline
I have gone to some video's on setting this up i.e. vtc.com/products/AppleMotion4/Text/90443 and other videos... nothing I do seems to slow it down,.
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kfcman

Hey Michael,
Yes frame rates are the same.

Motion Project does not look good in FCP

I am using FCP 5.0 and Motion2. I made a lower third title graphic in Motion. When I embed the clips back into FCP they look pixalated. They do not look as good as they did originally. Does anyone have a solution?

Hey,
Here's the result from last night. The quicktime file is good. It seems that Motion projects in FCP, even from rendered QT files, don't display their true image.
My output this morning for my project is flawless. Even though the timeline looks horrible.
The reason this seems to come up in this forum again and again, is probably that Boris 3D, FCP's titles, even LiveType, all display their true clean rendered image in FCP. Motion, however, doesn't seem to do that.
My guess is that it hangs on to a thumbnail representation for FCP of the rough draught render that motion must create so you can place your motion project in your FCP timeline live. (you know, you can switch back and forth and update a motion project and it updates it in FCP. )
It just doesn't say that anywhere that I was looking.
So, if anyone else is creating Motion projects and importing them into Final Cut, be aware that what you see in Final Cut is not what is going to render in your output. It will be full resolution and without the alising that appears in FCP's timeline.
Whew!
Gord
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FCP not reading templates correctly from Motion (Urgent)

Hi all,
I am trying to work in FCP (6.06) with templates created in Motion 3.0.2 But FCP seems to be seeing video drop zones as text layers!?
If I use a pre-existing template (or one I have created), when I bring it in to FCP I get the correct amount of input dialogue boxes for the amount of layers in the template, but regardless of whether they are drop zones or text layers the control dialogue box in FCP looks the same and I am unable to actually get anything to appear correctly on the timeline. It's driving me nuts!!
Also: when I have a template on my FCP timeline I am unable to save the project! I delete the template from the timeline and am able to save the project again...
Even weirder: I'm getting the same result on two machines!!
Any Ideas what could be causing this!? (i've tried software update and re-start)
Best
GK

Thank you to those who replied. By further process of elimination I have discovered that Motion does not recognize the ProRes 4444 Alpha Channel. When using a clip with the Animation Codec, it reads the alpha channel perfectly. The ProRes 4444 Clips I exported from Motion with Alpha work perfectly in After Effects ... so clearly Apple has a bug to fix

Export/Import From Motion to FCP

Hello
I'm new to this forum and have just recently begun working in the film and video industry. I am also new to the Apple community. So please excuse any misuse of terms as am not fully integrated into the business yet. I have created a background that has a lot of motion as well as an emitter in it and duplicating the sequence didn't seem to be the way to go. So I looped the sequence to run for 90 minutes. I am trying to decide if there is a need to export the file from motion as a quicktime file or should I just import the motion document into FCP and overlay my text elements (also created in motion) on V2. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
By the way thanks to Patrick for all you great "fun with" projects they have been a great help in learning Motion.

Thanks for your input. What I'm building is a sponsor loop for a banquet. I needed a 90 minute graphics bed over which to apply my text and logo elements. I ended up modify and existing 15 sec clip from the motion library tossing in an emitter and looping it for 90 minutes.
The problem was the sheer size of the file and the time it took to render if FCP. I ended up exporting the file as an 8 bit uncompressed QT movie so I wouldn't have to rerender it in FCP. It took about 2 1/2 hours but in the end it worked out.
Here is a follow up question. I have finished the text and logo element that goes over the bed but when the time comes to import the Motion file into FCP I have to render every time I put it into the timeline. I realize that the first time it appears it's necessary but is there a way to get around that having to let the thing render over night as this clip will be copied 44 times and each copy takes about 6 minutes to render.
I was thinking about exporting it as a QT file from motion just like the background but then I can't get the title sequence to appear over the backgound the way I would like as a QT element compared to Motion element. Tranparency issues.
Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

How to get printed manuals with upgrade to FCP from Motion?

I upgraded my standalone version of Motion to FCP 5.1 Universal through the mail and wondering how I can get the printed manuals. I realize it's not practical for Apple to mail 40 pounds of books and that the same text is probably on one of the DVDs but reading a physical book makes learning easier than reading on screen.
Has anyone been able to upgrade from Motion to FCP and get the printed books?
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David,
Apple provides manuals with most of it's software. I KNOW THIS OCCURS FOR A FACT! Thanks for posting your doubts and other notes but I don't think they are really being crafted towards helping at this point.
I was actually hoping others might have found solutions rather than looking for salt to rub into the wound. But to help you and the others you have spoken with to understand possible solutions I'm hoping might remedy the problem here are a few that suggestions:
- Call Apple Customer Support and get them to exchange the misrepresented product through the mail for what was represented.
- Walking into the Apple store and confronting the sales people with the issue and getting them to exchange the product.
- Working through Consumer Affairs and getting them to eiother refund or exchange the product.
- Calling a local TV station to report the fact that Apple shows one product on their web site and in their stores while selling something different with a the same name that is incomplete.
- Working through the Better Business Bureau to file a complaint against Apple for the misrepresentation and getting them to replace the product for the abused customers.
- Emailing the support folks at Apple and getting a emailed voucher in return which will allow users to exchange the product int stores.
I can think of dozens of ways Apple or other organizations could help resolve the situation.
Printing a color manual at Kinko's seems like a ridiculous expense to me. I cannot afford it and I appreciate you not consistently saying it's a viable solution. I'm actually a bit surprised that you keep responding with no help, confusing unrelated comments, and insist on further irritating the situation.
I hope my multiple attempts to help you understand what my issue is and possible solutions that people might offer has helped clarified things for you. If you have any further comments though please reserve them so others who may have had actual experiences similar to mine with possible solutions might be able to read this thread without having to see me explaining things over and over.
Thanks,
DAN

Bad looking text going from Motion to Flash

I'm creating a project in Motion which the client wants to play in Flash.
My work flow is 1) Export from Motion (uncompressed+animation codec) 2) Open in Quicktime 3) Export to .FLV using the Flash encoder (highest Quality)
Everything looks fine but I have red text on a white background and it is dithering horribly.
Any suggestions are appreciated--
Thanks

hi,
two things really, flash can look really horrible depending on the data rate you've used to create it. So you could try upping that until things look crisper. Obviously then you get bigger files.
Also red text on a white background is notorious in video for looking crap. Personally I would try any one or all of the following:
change the colour of the font/ and or the background.
change the font, and its size.
change everything.
or and another thing, why export out to to a quicktime from motion. Why not use compressor from motion to create the .flv. I assume you have flash and all the codecs since you are making the .flvs already.
( on a related note - recently I have had a problem where files created from motion via compressor change fonts - however if i drag the motion file into fcp and export via compressor there its all fine - weird)
hth
adam

Can't open quicktime movie that I exported from Motion 5 and can't import to FCP

Can't open quicktime movie that I exported from Motion 5 and can't import to FCP 7.
I exported (with current settings) from Motion 5 now i can't view my movie with QT Player an FCP
won't recognize it.
That's the message I get ?
I'm running Mac OSX but still on FCP 7 (upgrading to FCP X is NOT an option)
Thanks a lot for any sugestions
luxbud

Thanks TOny
i think it was just a problem during the export. i tried a second time and it just worked fine

Animation not carried over from Motion to FCP

In my FCP project, I sent a clip to Motion. In Motion, I imported another motion file of a car with spinning wheels that I made earlier and used that in the new Motion clip, along with some additional animation. Now, when I go back to FCP the car is visible, the additional animation is also visible, but not the spinning wheels. Is it not possible to embed Motion files within Motion?
When I export the clip from Motion directly to a QuickTime movie, everything is fine. But I'd rather don't go that route because it's much easier to move between FCP and Motion automatically.
Can someone please enlighten me? Thanks!

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Return to the clip in Final Cut. Control-click on the clip that should be a Motion document and pick "Reconnect Media." Point Final Cut to the resaved/exported Motion file you created. You may have to uncheck the box about showing only media with the same reel name. Hit Connect.

Can't Edit text in custom Title made from Motion 5

I make a Title in Motion 5 and save it to my Titles in FCPX.
When i bring it into FCPX, i go to change the text in it, but it won't let me. it doesn't give me the option.
I'm making a custom lower 3rd where all i want to do is change the text on the Title, and I use to be able to do this.
Now all of a sudden when I create a Title in Motion 5 and send it to FCPX, it wont' let me edit the text in the Title.
I have 'Editable in FCPX' option selected in Motion as well. what am i doing wrong?

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