TM Options - Warn when old backups are deleted

I have this option checked. At what threshold will that occur, and is there a way to define at what point they'll start to get deleted?

You can do that.
Then your backup would be safe and you simply have to assign a new HD from within TM Preferences.
But you're forced to be careful and monitor your backup folder size. Not at all the spirit of TM that's meant to automate with no worries.
As for the "normal case" argument:
There is no "normal case"; every Mac user has his own way to use his Mac. TM is a great time tool, for those who need to keep everything, especially the oldest data without having to remember exactly what it is.
And TM does work that way:
This problem we are having now is just a bug, not about TM's design.

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"Notify after old backups are deleted. Be notified if your backup disk is full and Time Machine deletes old backups to create space for new ones." I would prefer to be notified BEFORE things are deleted. Can the deleted items be recovered?

Time Machine option #2:
"Notify after old backups are deleted" Wouldn't it be better to get this notification BEFORE things are deleted? I suppose the real question is, is it possible to recover files deleted from time machine?
The bold phrase above has a checkbox. But if I leave it blank it appears that I will receive no notification at all.
I am using MacBook Pro, OS X version 10.9.5

TIme Machine is not an archival tool. And no, you won't be able to recover the files that are deleted.

Time Machine - which old backups are deleted?

Hi,
     Apologies if the answer is obvious - just wanted a second opinion.
     I'm backing up a 500GB MBP and a 2TB external to a 4TB Time Machine. If I complete a backup right now, can I be sure that everything on both drives is contained on the Time Machine drive?
     If both my MBP and 2TB drives exploded in the next few minutes, will I be able to get back all those files from my Time Machine?
     I ask because TM deletes old files during the backup process but we're never told which ones. If I've created and then backed up files in March (and not deleted them from the original drives) can I be sure that they're still available to restore from in July?
     Thanks,
A

championshipdigital wrote:
I'm backing up a 500GB MBP and a 2TB external to a 4TB Time Machine. If I complete a backup right now, can I be sure that everything on both drives is contained on the Time Machine drive?
Everything you need, yes (Time Machine skips some things that aren't needed, such as system work files, most caches & logs, trash, etc.).
I ask because TM deletes old files during the backup process but we're never told which ones.
It "thins" backups, per the schedule on the prefrences window:
If I've created and then backed up files in March (and not deleted them from the original drives) can I be sure that they're still available to restore from in July?
Yes. Time Machine will never delete the backup copy of anything that's still on your system.
The mistake some folks make is, they start deleting originals to save space not realizing that Time Machine will, eventually, delete the backups of those files.
See #12 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions for details.

Does not say "The oldest backups are deleted when your disk becomes full."

I am helping someone set up her backup, but I noticed that in the Time Machine window, there is no line that says: "The oldest backups are deleted when your disk becomes full."
She is running Mac OS 10.5.8, on a 2.66 GHz Quad-Core. Her first backup ran fine, but we're concerned that it will not delete older backups automatically to make space.

It works differently in Leopard and Snow Leopard.
In Leopard, the box is titled +Warn when old backups are deleted,+ and Time Machine will fail with a message when it runs out of room and that box is checked.
On Snow Leopard, the title is +Notify after old backups are deleted,+ and that's what happens -- the old backups are deleted, then you get a notice.
See #C4 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).

How can i restore old backup without deleting my existing data

how can i restore old backup without deleting my existing data. unfortunately i have deleted few of my old photos and restored them from my old backup. i got the deleted photos but lost my recent data and photos. how can i get those too.

You cannot. However, if your back up is through iTunes on your computer and you do an internet search for something like "iPhone BackUpExtractor", I believe there is software that will help you access the SQL database that is your back up. You may be able to pull out what you need.
Once you restore from a back up, any data that was on the phone is gone.

I can't find my old backup to delete

hello
good day to u all
i can't find my old backup when i go to manage backup, there are no backups , i want to delete the old backup so i can have storage, my storage is full , the backup is old and i don't want it, how can i delete it when i can't find it?
thank you

There will be no backup, if it doesn't show up on your iOS device in Settings > iCloud > Storage & Backup > Manage Storage.

Trying to back up iCloud from a lost iPhone 5 to a new one but Choose backup option says "No iCloud backups are compatible with the version of iOS (7.1) on this iPhone" previous phone was at version 8.1.3

I recently lost my iPhone 5 and purchased a refurbished one on line, I'm trying to backup by iCloud to the new phone but when I get to the "Choose backup" screen I'm told "No iCloud backups are compatible with the version (7.1) on this iPhone". My previous iPhone had up to version 8.1.3. Now I'm stuck in the backup screen and can't get back to settings. How can I finish the backup and how do I get out of backup mode to possibly update to the version I need?

Hi AppleRobertion,
What you are going to need to do here is update your iPhone's version of the operating system to a version at least as new as the one on your backup - iOS 8.1.3. To do this, follow the directions in this article -
If your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch doesn't respond or doesn't turn on - Apple Support
Specifically -
Make sure that you have iTunes 12 or later on your computer.
Put your device in recovery mode.
When you get the option to restore or update, select Update. This will reinstall iOS without erasing your data.
Once the update is complete you should be able to restore from your backup.
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
Sincerely,
Brett L

HT201317 The pictures in my photostream folder on my computer are being deleted when the pictures are deleted from photostream on individual devices. The photos on the computer were supposed to be permanent. Can I stop photostream from deleting from my

The original photstream instructions, and the current photostream information page on the apple website, say that photos on your pc or mac computer that have been synced by photostream are permanent but the latest updatge seems to have changed that so when items are deleted from any device they are deleted from all devices, including images that have gotten older and have rolled out of photostream on my iphone. I trusted photostream to save these images on my computer and now they appear to be gone. Can I turn off the option of deleting photostream images from my computer or do I need to copy these images to another folder to save them from being deleted when they are deleted from the device.

MikeMurdock wrote:
ok so i can't figure this out because i keep being told different things by everybody.
so say I take a picture with my phone. that picture is now located in my camera roll and uploads to my iclouds photostream, which I can then view on my computer. now my question is this: is the photos in my stream, on my comp permanent, allowing me to then delete them from my phones camera roll?
No
Photostream keeps them for 30 days.

Reset my Timecapsule, my old backups are still there but Time Machine says last backup was never

Ive been using my Time capsule as a router for 5 months and recently moved were I had a router supplied. I plugged my wireless modem into the Timecap and still used my home network. I recently decided to not use the Timecap for a router but just as a backup. I was having connectivity issues so I pressed the reset butting for 5seconds and reset it. When I look inside the drive I can see my old backups, but in Time machine it says my last backup was never.. Id like to get it back to were I can just auto backup and I have the history of the last 5 months. Please help

Pondini,
Thanks for your response. I selected the tc via select disk in the preferences window. It did a countdown of two minuites. After that a window popped up and said thus.
Time Machine completed a verification of your backups. To improve reliability, Time Machine must create a new backup for you.
Click Start New Backup to create a new backup. This will remove your existing backup history. This could take several hours.
And gives me two options Back up later - Start new backup
Is there anyway to keep my old backups. (naming the drive differently, anything?)
Help is always appreciated.
Thanks,

After Lion upgrade old backups are visible but unaccessible

On two different machines with different type drives I upgraded from SL to Lion and everything went fine, except when I Enter Time Machine the backups prior to the upgrade are purple on the timeline and I can't access them. The files are there on the drive still but the UI will no longer allow me to restore form them.
As an aside, Time Machine is creating new backups just fine and I can restore ffrom them.
Since this happened on two separate machines with two different brands of external HD and both relatively new I would think this was more common.
Any ideas?

I had this issue and FIGURED it out!
I had a MBP on SL with an Intel SSD. My hard drive was named "IntelSSD". I then purchased an AIR with Lion installed and used migration assistant. When turning on TM, it asked if I wanted to keep the old backups and I said Yes.
Well, just as the previous poster states, the change in HD name from "IntelSSD" to "Macintosh HD" causes TM to not related the two home directories as the same! Per the instructions, go to Finder where you see the HD and then enter Time Machine. From there you can go back and see your old HD name and drill in to find your files.
For Reference from the link above:
If you want to see the backups for such a disk or partition, either select your Computer name in the Finder sidebar, or quit Time Machine, press Shift+Cmd+C to show your computer, and re-enter Time Machine. Do not select anything in the Finder window, but navigate to the backup you want via the Timeline. The Finder windows will show one folder for each disk or partition that was included in each backup (there are some samples in Troubleshooting item #E3). If you want to restore the entire disk/partition, select all the top-level folders and restore to an alternate location, per question #16.

Trigger IDoc when outbound documents are deleted

Hi Experts,
I am working on a scenario where in when delivery document is deleted then we need to have a IDoc to be triggered and sent to the receiver.
I understand that when we create/change delivery, there is a way to trigger IDoc (i.e., through message control). But when we delete a delivery, I am not sure, we have standard mechanism to trigger an IDoc. Can we have a standard way of making this happen?
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In the NACE transaction, Click on the APPLICATION V2 and create a new OUTPUT type with Z as prefix
In the Processing Routine Tab in the control data enter the MEDIUM as 6 which is the EDI and maintain the PROGRAM & SMARTFORM as developed by the ABAPer
Now maintain the CONDITION RECORDS with the MEDIUM 6 and the LS as Partner function
Now with the Help of your ABAPer, define the PARTNER PROFILES in WE20 and the Message types .
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When text messages are deleted are they gone for good?

My daughter accidentally deleted messages that I need for court. Is there any way to retrieve them after she cleared my conversation ?

The only way to possibly retreive them would be a restore from backup created after the messages were received but prior to them being deleted.
If you do not regularly sync and backup the device, they are gone.

How to create alert when some record are deleted

HI to all,
i am new to alert having req like if salary is deleted in the HRMS form then alert has to fired.
how to do it.
pls help.

out of box it is not possible unless you enable the audit trail and fire the alert from the audit table.
the other way may be you create a temp table and insert the deleted data using user hook before the data is deleted and then fire the alert whenever new record is inserted to the temp table.

Time Machine Deletes Old Backups without warning!!

I have just lost loads of pictures and emails when my Timemachine deleted old backups. I was so happy to have an easy way to keep my iPhoto cleaned up while keeping all the photos for the future. I would load my all the photos from my camera, backup with TimeMachine and delete the "bad" unwanted photos, confident in the knowledge that these pictures are still there on my external. I looked forward to some future date when someone would write an easy piece of software to consolidate old iPhoto libraries and even go through TimeMachine and consolidate those photos too. But until that fantasy event, my pictures, even though not wanted were still there.
Not any more!!
I replaced my hard drive and reloaded my laptop from Timemachine and I think that was the event that sparked the dump.
There should be a special check box to make sure that NO backups are automatically deleted, EVER. They should be a way to make them Sacred!!
There should be a way to create a separate backup just for iPhoto because right now, there are no good ways to easily break apart or merge iPhoto libraries. At least what I was doing worked, (well.... until it didn't).
Any ideas??

nerowolfe wrote:
True, TM is not a classic archival system, but until the drive is full, the difference is moot.
No, the difference isn't moot.
I still have on my TM HD every file I ever had because it's only 1/2 full.
No, you don't. Read on...
Time machine has three levels of backups:
1) hourly - deleted after 24 hours
2) daily - deleted after a week
3) weekly - deleted only when the disk is full - these are the only deletions you will be warned about
Time machine is always deleting files. Every time it backs up, it deletes files.
But the OP's real question is why he was never warned about the old backups being deleted, as TM says it will do, archival stuff notwithstanding. Apparently TM simply ignores the user's request to be warned.
No, it doesn't.
That being said, as I asked in a post not too long ago, "how many have had a warning from TM that old backups are being deleted?" as one would expect when the TM preference box, "Warn when old backups are deleted" is checked.
It appears to me to be a bug.
I ask again if anyone has gotten this warning.
Nobody answered my previous post with a yes.
Yes.
Because Time Machine continually cleans up behind itself, it tries very hard to ever delete the weekly backups. The only time I've gotten the deletion warning was when my disk was full. I think I just avoided the problem by removing my old Parallels images from Time Machine and got back an extra 70 gig or so - good for another six months.
This is not a bug. This is how Time Machine works. It is unfortunate that the original poster did not fully understand this. The fact is that Time Machine backs everything up. If you create 100 files, it backs up the folder with 100 new files. If you delete 100 files, it backs up the folder with 100 less files. Then, the next day, it deletes old backups. The only one it keeps is the last one, with 100 less files.
It is correct to say that Time Machine is not an archival system. It is a backup system. If you want to save your files forever, you need to copy them to a location that isn't under the control of any sort of automatic software.

Time Machine does not appear to auto delete old backups

I would like old backups to be automatically deleted, but so far does not appear to have occurred as I have not received any warnings. I have checked the box in the setup dialog box to do so. I have only 60GB remaining and receive warnings from Tech Tools that the free space threshold is at 2% remaining.
Does the drive have to be fully exhausted before older backups are automatically deleted (causing the warning), and if so should I turn off the Tech Tools warning for remaining disc space for that drive?
I am using an OWC Mercury Elite AL Pro 2TB external drive with an eSATA connection. Our typical business files can range from 100 to 300MB each. In the Apple Support Mac 101 Time Machine article it states "As your backup disk begins to fill up to its capacity, Time Machine intelligently deletes the oldest backups to make room for newer ones (and will alert you if the "Warn when old backups are deleted" option is selected in Time Machine preferences)." To date, this warning has not appeared making me think no deletions have occurred.
Thanks for any thoughts, Scott

Scotttt wrote:
I would like old backups to be automatically deleted, but so far does not appear to have occurred as I have not received any warnings. I have checked the box in the setup dialog box to do so. I have only 60GB remaining and receive warnings from Tech Tools that the free space threshold is at 2% remaining.
Does the drive have to be fully exhausted before older backups are automatically deleted (causing the warning)
The oldest backup(s) won't be deleted until there isn't room for a new one. And "warning" is a bit misleading -- when there isn't enough space, the backup will fail, without deleting anything, until you deselect the option. See #C4 in [Time Machine - Troubleshooting|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/Troubleshooting.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
Note that this has changed for Snow Leopard; it does the deletion(s) automatically, then sends a notice.
and if so should I turn off the Tech Tools warning for remaining disc space for that drive?
Yes. That accomplishes nothing. Time Machine manages it's space automatically.
To date, this warning has not appeared making me think no deletions have occurred.
That's not strictly true; it applies only when Time Machine has to delete your oldest backups to make room for new ones. But it also deletes "expired" backups every time it does a new one. See #12 in [Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).

TM Options - Warn when old backups are deleted

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