TM said HD full, deleted all backups and then told me about it.

I have a 500Gb Firewire drive for Time Machine. The other day Time Machine deleted all backups because the disk was full and then told me about it.
I would expect that this shouldn't have happened, is that correct?
What can I do to stop it happening again?

jrhd wrote:
I have a 500Gb Firewire drive for Time Machine. The other day Time Machine deleted all backups because the disk was full and then told me about it.
I would expect that this shouldn't have happened, is that correct?
the first time TM needs to delete old backups to make room for new ones it will warn you about in if you have the appropriate box checked in TM system preferences->options.
after that it will delete old backups without warning if it has to. but if it deleted everything at once it means that the amount of data it needs to back up has jumped unexpectedly. look in TM system preferences->options. how much is included in backups? also, did you make any recent changes to the system? new hard drive? system restore?

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