? to buy - ATI RADEON X800 Mac Edition

Hello,
I'd like to buy one of these to power a 30" display on a dual G5.
Anyone heard of where they are available?
thanks,

Steve
I had purchased the X800 XT MAC and unfortunately recieved a defective unit (it happens) anyway got the rma and returned it to ATI/AMD they provided me with another card (1 week turnaround) it too was defective and wouldnt allow my G5 to boot even!! Yikes!! So I returned the unit to Microcenter (where I purchased the unit) and I am in the process of getting my money back (home office is issuing a check so I must wait 10 business days to get the check). So I like you must now wait to get my 30 inch to where it is really useable.
Unfortunately there are no other options really as the X800 XT MAC is available for AGP and supports the 30 inch (dual link DVI) and has a max resolution of 2048 x 1536 verses the 30 inch at 2560 x 1600 resolution as I have researched this quite exhaustively. Its apparent AGP isnt the future (obviously) and Nvidia Quadro FX at 1600 bucks is clearly outside my budget.
Perhaps someone else knows something different. Do shop around as I paid around 300 bucks for mine, however understand the wait limitations you face once you get that price and note some retailers are discontinuing availability of the unit itself for whatever reason (support may be an issue). Some places are even asking 389 bucks!!
Thanks for letting me know about the 9800 as well. Kinda regretting getting the 30 incher now!!!!

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108
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1. I cannot think of any more thing I can do. Any suggestion from the expert friends here is welcome and strongly appreciated.
2. It just seems to me that even X800XT claims to be built for Mac, from hardware to software they just do not work quite well together. Total mismtach. I don't mind ATI and Apple are not friends, but please let me know if they are not.
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