To convert forms oracle6i to forms10g conversion

Dear All
Good Day..
Can any one tell me how to convert forms6i to forms10g.
Regards
Sathian A

Dear Manu
I created a bat file with the below content. and run the batch file i shows the below error.
how to convert .olb,.pll, .mmb and also tell me the all the object conversion.
echo Start Forms Compilation.....This may take few minutes......
for %%f IN (*.fmb) do frmplsqlconv module=%%f userid=sathya/youngworld@ora10g log=%%forms_conversion.log
for %%i IN (*.fmb) do U:\oracleds10g\bin\convrsion\frmcmp userid=sathya/youngworld@ora10g module=%%i batch=yes module_type=form compile_all=yes
Log written into File - SHTR200.fmborms_conversion.log
processing ....
Log - SHTR200.fmb touched : Thu Jul 30 12:32:37 GMT+05:30 2009
ERROR opening SHTR200.fmb :oracle.forms.jdapi.JdapiException: FRM-18108: Failed to load the following objects.
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-UP
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-DOWN
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-CLRBLK
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: POST-TEXT-ITEM
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: WHEN-NEW-ITEM-INSTANCE
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: ON-ERROR
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: ON-MESSAGE
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-EXIT
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-LISTVAL
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-HELP
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: PRE-FORM
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: WHEN-NEW-FORM-INSTANCE
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: KEY-CLRFRM
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: ABOUT
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: OG_STANDARD_TEMPLATE
Source Module:SFST8200.olb
Source Object: OG_SEARCH_UTILITY
Check subclass and library dependencies
Log - SHTR200.fmb released : Thu Jul 30 12:32:37 GMT+05:30 2009
[End of Log]
Log written into File - SHTR200.fmborms_conversion.log
processing ....
Log - SHTR200.fmb touched : Thu Jul 30 12:43:59 GMT+05:30 2009
Physical file name: U:\oracleDS10g\BIN\convrsion\SHTR200.fmb
Log - SHTR200.fmb released : Thu Jul 30 12:43:59 GMT+05:30 2009
[End of Log]

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