To extend AirPort Extreme 802.11n

Wanting to extend the range of my AirPort Extreme 802.11n (version 7.4.2)
I have a Airport Express as trial also a 802.11n. AirPort Utility has a lot of trouble finding the Express. When AirPort Utility does find it and I want to set up the Express I have to switch from the Extreme to the Express. Unfortunate side-effect is that AirPort Utility then looses track of the Extreme and I can't "join" the Express as Utility can't find anything to join.
As I have the Express on trial of a friend I did the normal reset (button for 10 sec) and even the factory reset (unplug, press reset button while plugging in) however I did notice it still had his settings. Changed those but as I said before it seems for AirPort Utility is is either or instead of both.

Based on your description, it sounds like the AXn is configured to join the wireless network created by the AEBSn ... not extend it.
The following would be the basic setup steps for extending a wireless network:
o If practical, place the base stations in near proximity to each other during the setup phase. Once done, move them to their desired locations.
o Open AirPort Utility and select the base station that will connect to the Internet.
o Choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then click Wireless.
o Choose “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then select the “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox.
o Next, select the base station that will extend this network, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open its configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Choose “Extend a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then choose the network you want to extend from the Network Name pop-up menu.
o Enter the base station network and base station password is necessary.
o Click Update to update the base station with new network settings.
(ref: Page 46 of "Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility.)

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Extending the range of Airport Extreme 802.11n

I have 2 Airport Extremes 802.11n. One of the is connected to a DSL modem and it works fine. I have been trying to use the other one to extend the network, but have not been successful.
I used the exact steps in the manual (Designing Airport Network) published by Apple. The steps I used (several times) were under "Extending the Range of an 802.11n Network".
Whenever I compete the steps and update the base station, the one that I want to use as the extension (not connected to the internet) disappears from the Airport Utility Application and the base station blinks the orange light. I did reset the base station and tried the guide several times but no success.
I am doing something wrong or this manual is not complete. Any help from you guys will be most appreciated.
Thanks!

I have the same problem. I didn't have this issue with the 802.11g version. Are you using the base station in "bridge" mode? Because when I used the "n" basestation in DHCP/NAT mode, it worked fine. Unfortunately, I needed to change to bridge mode for reliability issues with my service provider.
Now I have the same issue as you.

Setting up Time Capsule with existing AirPort Extreme 802.11n and AirPort Express.

I already have and am using an AirPort Extreme 802.11n with an AirPort Express. I want to set up a Time Capsule 802.11n. Which is the best way to configure this?

... Which is the best way to configure this?
The answer depends on what you need the TC to accomplish. If all you need it to do is perform Time Machine backups, simply have it join your existing network in client mode. It would be if it were to connect to your existing router (presumably your Extreme), not through an "extended" wireless network (presumably your Express).
If you need the TC to "extend" your network so as to serve additional wireless clients, you can do that also. Configure it to "extend" the network created by your Extreme.
As you can see it's quite versatile.

Connecting AirPort Express to AirPort Extreme 802.11n

The following steps helped me set up an AirPort Express base station connected to a set of wireless speakers with my new AirPort Extreme 802.11n base station. I’m posting this because the process was not entirely intuitive, at least not to me.
I’ll assume you have set up the AP Extreme base station to connect to the internet and run your home network and that you are connected to your wireless network.
Make sure you set-up the AP Extreme base station to broadcast in 802.11n + 802.11b/g modes, i.e. both at once. You will also have to check he setting that allows the newtork to be extended.
Reset the AP Express base station so that in runs on the factory defaults by pressing the reset button with a paper clip. Wait for it to completely restart.
Launch the AirPort Utility. You should see both your AP Extreme and AP Express base stations in the left hand column. Click on the AP Express base station you just reset. When it asks to switch wireless networks do so. Then hit continue.
On the next screen select “Connect to my current wireless network” option and hit continue.
On the following screen select the “Extend the range of my AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express network” and hit continue. Do NOT select the “Join my wireless network” option even though it says this is how you connect to wireless speakers. This is the part that was not obvious to me. When I tried this the AirPort Express base station flashed orange and wouldn’t connect despite waiting 30 minutes.
Chose the network you wish to extend from the drop down menu. My keychain supplied the password for the network.
Give your base station a name and hit continue.
Select the main base station in the list provided. This is the one connected to the internet and hit ok.
The Airport Utility software will configure the network to accept the AirPort Express base station.
Now all that’s left is to connect your wireless speakers to the AirPort Exppress base station. You can now play music through AirTunes while being connected to your fast 802.11n network.

I recently setup an Airport Express in conjuction with my Extreme Base Station. I'm not really understanding how this method enables 802.11n connection speeds (via Base Station) to the internet and also allow streaming music through the Express at 802.11b/g. It's my understanding that if you want to be able to access the internet AND stream music at the same time the Express needs to join the network. In order for the Express to join the network (able to recognize the Base Station)...the Base station needs to be changed from 802.11n only to 802.11n (802.11b/g compatable)....which essentially means your connecting to the internet at 802.11b/g. If your wanting to keep 802.11n only on the base station...you would have to create a seperate network via the Express to stream music. What this means is you CANNOT access the internet and stream music at the same time. You would have to manually change Airport in the taskbar to do one or the other.
Am I off base here? If I am missing something please let me know...because it would be great to be able to connect to the internet at 802.11n only with a multi-case rate set to 23Mbps vs. the 11Mbps (maximum) of the 802.11b/g compatable option.
I guess what is confusing me is that my setup is basically the same as what was described above..minus having the "Extended Network" being enabled. How does extending the network change things?

Can I add an extra Ethernet port to my AirPort Extreme (802.11n)???

hi all.
I have an Apple AirPort Extreme (802.11n). On the back I have 3 Ethernet ports. All the 3 ports are used (one for an Ethernet Printer, One is connected to my computer and one is connected to my wife's computer. I need an additional Ethernet port for a music server. I have no idea of how to extend the Ethernet ports number.
Thanks for any Help
David - Canada

Hello David Gershon1. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
You could simply add a multi-port Ethernet switch to any of the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station's (AEBSn) LAN ports to increase the number of available ports. An example would be the Linksys EZXS55W.

Is my AirPort Extreme (802.11n) Base Station defective?

I'm trying to set up a wireless network with my new AirPort Extreme (802.11n) Base Station. I dismanteld my existing network that consisted of an old model AirPort Extreme and an AirPort Express. I can't seem to get anything to work properly with the new hardware. I have a G4 Quicksilver that uses an AirPort card. Is that the issue? I thought they were compatible. I was not able to update the Setup Utility because I don't have an Intel Mac. Still, that shouldn't prevent me from doing an initial setup. I'm thinking perhaps the unit is defective. I've been working on this several hours a day for almost a week. This is the most trouble (by far) that I've ever had with any Apple product. I'm really disappointed. I suspect the hardware is defective, but based on all of the issues I've read about in this forum, I think it could just be reflective of the poor overall quality of the new AirPort Extreme. What a let down.

What is the exact name of the application you are using to configure the airport?
You should be using "AirPort Utility"
It is a Universal application, so it should work on both a PPC and Intel mac.
As for the update, if you can't download it via software update, you most likely do not need it.
The quicksilver only has an Airport card:
http://support.apple.com/specs/powermac/PowerMac_G4_Quicksilver2002.html
That means that you will need to configure the airport extreme N to operate in the 2.4 GHz range. You will need to tell it that it needs to be compatible with 802.11b
There is probably an option for 802.11 b/g/n compatibility.
Are you going to still use your airport express? you could either use WDS to extend your wireless network without connecting the two airport base stations with an ethernet cable... or you could connect them together with an ethernet cable and configure the same network name and use two different channels (only use 1, 6, or 11). If you extend a network, they both need to use the same channel.
If the quicksilver is the only machine on your network, it will not be any faster.
Actually, you could make things faster, now that I think about it... I am guessing that your quicksilver is not located near your airport extreme. If I am wrong, just ignore this...
You could use one of your airports as your main base station, connected to your cable modem/dsl whatever... then you connect the other airports ethernet to your quicksilver. you then turn off the airport card in your quicksilver and set up the airport connected to your computer to use WDS and connect to the other airport using 802.11g.
You now have gone from an 11 mbps max (5 mbps real world) connection to a real world 30-40 mbps link.
Other options would be to look for 802.11g or 802.11n usb adapters for the quicksilver... I am not sure what is mac compatible out there, since it is probably a small market since it is built in to all new macs.
Good luck

Airport Express 802.11n + Airport Extreme 802.11n 2.4ghz but not 5ghz?

I can't get my Airport Express 802.11 to extend the network of my Airport Extreme 802.11n using 5Ghz only... but it will work with "n only 2.4Ghz"....
any solutions?
Message was edited by: Eric Carpenter

Addtional info both AE's now have ver 7.5.2 installed, prior it was 7.6 and situation is still the same.

AirPort Extreme 802.11n 4% Packet Loss

I have three laptops (Macbook, HP, and ThinkPad), an iPhone 4, iPad, and a Wii on my wireless network. I replaced an old Linksys 802.11g access point and router with a new Airport Extreme 802.11n.
Everything has been working fairly good except my ThinkPad. The TP has a ThinkPad 11b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter III card and can connect to everything from coffee shop wireless to my Cisco WLAN using PEAP/WPA2 at work without skipping a beat.
But here at home, with my new Airport - I'm losing about 4% of the pings I run and it'll drop my connection without warning. Almost like the WPA key is rotating, then just dies.
The MacBook has an 802.11n card and can run extended ping tests without dropping a single one.
The HP has an Intel centrino abg card and runs 0% loss as well.
If I connect my old Linksys back up - I get 0% packet loss on WPA2 again, but to the AirPort - 4%.
It's making my wireless network exceptionally frustrating.

This is what I get when I'm connected to the main wireless network using 802.11g WPA2 (AES or TKIP).
If you'd like to do this test, simply type this command from a command line (or terminal on an OS X computer)
ping -t 10.0.1.1
And when you're done, type CTRL+C to get the statistics. You can let it run for hours and come back.
ping -t 10.0.1.1
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Ping statistics for 10.0.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 96, Lost = 4 (4% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms</div>
Now, if I connect to the guest network or my Linksys WRT-G54, I get this:
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 10.0.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Ping statistics for 10.0.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms</div>
Not a single drop... and I'm still pinging the AirPort's IP address, so I know it's not the device itself dropping pings. It must be something funky with my T400's wireless card and the private network, nothing else makes sense.

SERIOUSLY slow USB hard drive on the new Airport Extreme 802.11n

I have recently bought the new airport etreme 802.11n. Great little device, look wonderful on the office desk. I had some troubles getting it up and running on my machine but finaly got there in the end.
The USB hard drive is a great little addition that I was very excited about, untill I got it running. It is amazingly slow, for example I tried to copy a folder that contained 15 files which amounted to 135.6mb and it took 20 mins and 24 seconds to upload!
Is this just the speed that it should be uploading or is there somehting wrong with my settings.
I'm running on 3 bars of signal and the settings I'm using are:
connect with password (which is the same as the base stations password)
Automatically discover disks
Show in menu bar
If anyone knows the technical data for the transfer speeds and can confirm my queries I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks in advance

I have recently bought the new airport etreme
802.11n. Great little device, look wonderful on the
office desk. I had some troubles getting it up and
running on my machine but finaly got there in the
end.
The USB hard drive is a great little addition that I
was very excited about, untill I got it running. It
is amazingly slow, for example I tried to copy a
folder that contained 15 files which amounted to
135.6mb and it took 20 mins and 24 seconds to
upload!
Is this just the speed that it should be uploading or
is there somehting wrong with my settings.
I'm running on 3 bars of signal and the settings I'm
using are:
connect with password (which is the same as the base
stations password)
Automatically discover disks
Show in menu bar
If anyone knows the technical data for the transfer
speeds and can confirm my queries I'd really
appreciate it!
Thanks in advance
Does your drive meet these requirements?:
You can connect USB-based storage devices to an AirPort Extreme (802.11n). Learn which formats and protocols are supported.
The AirPort Extreme (802.11n) supports USB storage devices that have a block size of 512 bytes, and are formatted as Mac OS Extended (HFS-plus), FAT16, or FAT32. Not all USB storage devices use a block size of 512 bytes.
The AirPort Extreme (802.11n) shares storage devices based on the format used to initialize the storage device. For example, if HFS-plus formatting was used, AFP and SMB/CIFS protocols are used to share the device on the network. If FAT16 or FAT32 was used, SMB/CIFS protocols are used.
The AirPort Extreme (802.11n) works with disks that have a single partition and are not RAID volumes (no more than one volume per physical disk).
Note: Use AirPort Disk Utility to discover and mount AirPort Extreme-based volumes over the network.
William

WDS networking issue - Airport Extreme (802.11n) and remote Airport Express

*Background Info:*
Airport Extreme 802.11n (Fast Ethernet)
Version: 7.2.1
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network (set as main)
Network Name: @Home
Wireless Security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
Channel: 1
Airport Express
Version: 6.3
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network (set as remote)
Network Name: @Home
Wireless Security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
Channel: 1
Radio Mode: 802.11b/g compatible
Connect Using: AirPort (WDS)
Connection Sharing: Off (Bridge Mode)
Issue
Please help as I'm having issues with my WDS network. I've setup using both the wizard and manual and also hard reset on both units to setup again but cannot get them both to communicate to one another. Both units are showing green LED under their configuration. For my last attempt, I've tried adding the Airport ID (MAC) of the Airport Express to the Access Control and also DHCP Reservations on the Airport Extreme but still no luck.
The Airport Express (setup as remote) does not even show up in the Airport Extreme's Summary as Wireless Clients. In the WDS tab, the Airport Extreme is set up as WDS main, Allow wireless clients box checked and WDS Remotes has the Airport Express' AirPort ID in the list. On the Airport Express, WDS is set up as remote, with Allow wireless client box checked and the Airport ID of the Airport Express in the WDS Main.
I can connect clients to both units. Both units are configured using the same Network Name and have the same WPA/WPA2 security key. The Airport Extreme (main) however is connected to my broadband so any devices or clients connected to it are able to get outside. Connected devices or clients are assigned IP address via DHCP with IP 10.0.x.x. If wifi devices or clients connect to the Airport Express (remote) they are assigned a completely different IP addresses 169.254.x.x, they are not able to browse the internet or talk to other clients connected on the 10.0.1.x network. The Internet Connection configuration on the Airport Express (remote) is Connect Using Airport (WDS) and Using DHCP. I've even tried manually and entered the IP address 10.0.1.199 that I had assigned to the Airport Express from the Airport Extreme and Router Address as IP of Airport Extreme (10.0.1.1).
I think I've tried everything but I'm still having this problem. The remote Airport Express is not extending my existing Airport Extreme network. Any ideas???

Christopher,
This may or may not be helpful, or it may be something you've already tried or are aware of so I apologize if that's the case.
I have been researching ways to set up the Dual Band Network supported by the AEBS and came across your post. I've got an AEBS and (2) AirPort Express set-up currently (AEBS is main and the Express are participating in the WDS as remotes) and I'm trying to configure one of the Express to utilize a 802.11b/g compatible network while the AEBS runs a 5Ghz 802.11n Only network.
AAR, since the AirPort Express are 2.4Ghz 802.11b/g ONLY (no support for 802.11n), you have to be sure to set-up your AEBS first and select "802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)" in the Radio Mode drop-down on the AEBS before you attempt to connect an AirPort Express. The AEBS should be set-up as your "WDS main" and the Express should be set-up as a "WDS remote" for the network you established when you set-up the AEBS.
Bottom line here is the Express won't be seen by the AEBS unless the AEBS is 'looking' in the 802.11b/g 2.4Ghz frequency.
Hope this was helpful.

Airport Express and Airport Extreme 802.11n

Hello,
I have a Airport Extreme 802.11n Base Station set up and a old Airport Extreme (the one before the 802.11n model) set up which extends the Base Station's signal.
Is the old Airport Express broadcasting the 802.11n put out by the Airport Extreme even though the Express is an older model?
Thanks!

No, the older AX (Airport Express) is not capable of communicating in 802.11n protocol. It would be 802.11g at best.

How do I connect my Airport Extreme 802.11n to Epson 645 Printer?

I can't figure out how to connect my Airport Extreme 802.11n to my Epson 645 Printer. Can anyone help me? Thanks!

You may want to try reinstalling Mavericks. Airport Utility installed by Mavericks may no longer connect to your older AEBS (though I've not heard that.) Installing the Old AirPort Utility (Version 5.6) on Mountain Lion | frank.is.
Reinstall Lion, Mountain Lion, or Mavericks
     Boot to the Recovery HD: Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the
     COMMAND and R keys until the Utilities menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and
     after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears.
     Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
     Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions: Upon startup select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
     Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions as follows.
After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu.
     Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks: Select ReinstallLion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks from
     the Utilities menu, and click on the Continue button.
     Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because it is
                three times faster than wireless.

I have a pc running windows 7. I got an Airport Extreme 802.11n Wi-Fi and the printer is now plugged into the Airport. The wireless router works fine but the printer shows as offline in control panel and in word. The printer is a HP LaserJet CP1525nw.

I have a pc running windows 7. I got an Airport Extreme 802.11n Wi-Fi and the printer is now plugged into the Airport. The Airport works fine but the printer shows as offline in control panel and in word. The printer is a HP LaserJet CP1525nw.

+For now I have it set to Share Public IP address - Is this correct for my Network Setup with The Airport Extreme being the only router being used ?+
This would be the correct setting if the AirPort Extreme is connected to a simple modem (one ethernet port).
*Settings I have Enabled*
5 GHz name indicates that you have elected to use the option to assign a separate name to the 5 GHz network. This will allow you to "tell" compatible computers to connect to that network, rather than the slower 2.4 GHz network
Use Wide Channels is recommended for 5 GHz operation.
Interference Robustness often does more harm than good and should not be used unless you know you are in a area with a lot of wireless networks and you feel that your network is experiencing interference issues from a nearby network.

Not able to see disk connected to AirPort Extreme 802.11n

I just installed my AirPort Extreme 802.11n Wireless Base station. Wireless internet works like a charm, however, I cannot see my external hard disk when it is connected to the base station (amber light blinking and when checking the problem, I am told that "Disk needs repair"). When connecting the hard disk directly to the PC, I have no problem seeing the data. Any tips or tricks out there... ?
AirPort Extreme 802.11n Windows XP

I finally got my 500 GB Western Digital MyBook USB drive to work by reformatting it to HFS+ format.
Of course, before I could do that, I had to copy all my files onto another hard drive. That job took a day to accomplish.
I work with Poser, and have a lot of content installed... We're talking thousands of files.
Once the drive was reformatted to HFS+ format, I copied everything back over. That took another day. Then I connected to the AEBS.
The USB drive was immediately recognized. It was incredibly easy to access the USB drive on my PCs. It required no effort on my part, except to supply the password.
In the end, I've decided this effort is a failure.
The drive is way too slow for my needs. Also, one of my vital Poser utilities (CorrectReference Pro) will not work properly with the USB drive on the AEBS.
I am currently in the process of copying all those files over to two external USB hard drives attached to my other PC.
Then I plan to unmount my 500 GB MyBook drive, and reformat it back to NTFS. I'll let the Notebook PC have it on a direct connection again.
I have a couple "junk" External Hard drives that are 160 GB. Maybe I'll use one of those as an Airport disk...
But I won't be using the Airport disk for anything important. It's too slow.

Help needed connecting Iomega Minimax Ext HDD to Airport Extreme 802.11n

Would appreciate if someone can help me with the following task. After researching and trying several things, I have not succeed in resolving the issue.
I want to connect a Iomega MiniMax Ext HDD (for Mac) to my (Airport Extreme 802.11n + Time Capsule) box using the USB port at the back of my Airport Extreme. Then I want to access the Ext HDD wirelessly as a drive on my Macbook (snow leopard OS). I was told this was possible at the Apple Store...but have failed so far.
Any suggestions so far

Hello smitra. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
The following are the basic steps for sharing an external USB drive attached to either an 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) or a Time Capsule (TC):
o Plug the hard disk into the USB port on the back of the base station.
o Open AirPort Utility, located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Mac, and in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows
o Select your base station, and then, choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Click Disks in the toolbar, and then, click File Sharing.
o Choose “With a disk password,” or “With base station password” if you want to secure the shared disk with a password, or choose “With accounts” if you want to secure the disk using accounts. If you choose to use accounts, click Configure Accounts, click the Add "+" button, and then enter a name and password for each user that will access the disk. For simplicity, I would recommend using the "With a disk password" option.
o Choose “Not allowed,” “Read only,” or “Read and write” to assign guest access to the disk.
o Select the “Share disks over Ethernet WAN port” checkbox if you want to provide remote access to the disk over the WAN port.
You should now be able to find this drive within Finder under the SHARED category.

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