To LISR or not to LISR

If you've read my previous post you'd know my K7N2G-L its gone, so here comes my question: What should I get K7N2G-L or -LISR?

OK, you've just added more Xs to the equation , the prices are the best you can get down here in Argentina.
So here goes the complete picture:
Mobos:
MSI K7N2 Delta-L US$ 93,50
MSI K7N2G-L US$ 113,00
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR US$ 128,50
MSI K7N2G-ILSR US$ 152,00
Video anywhere between U$ 30 - 50.- (GF2mxsomething)
BUT, why should I choose Deltas, cause I aint overclocking past 200MHz FSB, so wont be the IGP a better choice?
I'm a bit confused now.
Remember I'm VERY short on cash.
Thanks

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MSI TI4200 VTP not registering in windows XP K7N2 DELTA LISR

Hi All First Post and very Confused
Spec First
MSI TI4200 VTP Graphics
K7N2 Delta LISR M/B
AMD 2800 CPU
1GB Samsung P2700 DDR Ram
500 w PSU
80gb ATA 133 HD
120gb SATA HD
Windows XP Proff Edition OS
Problem is that I have just built this computer installed windows and all MB drivers and everything is fine I then install th Graphics card drivers and I get a blue screen upon the restart that is to quick to read and the system just reboots to the safe mode selection screen this is an ongoing loop if i select start windows normally. If i select safe mode the system boots up in safe mode.
I also noticed after I had taken windows back to last known good configuration that windows had not recognised my card and just showed VGA adapter with the yellow exclaimation mark. I have tried another graphics card and that worked fine.
windows installed it etc automatically
How can I read the blue screen or what is on it as it flashes up so quickly and what do you fine people think my problem is I have disabled 8x agp in bios
The TI4200 came out of my previous MSI KT400 Ultra
Please help
Longshanks

what was the other vga card
post max amps of psu
try it at agp x4 ,disable agpx 8 in bios

K7N2G.LISR internal graphics card not working

After building a new pc with msi k7n2g-lisr I can't play 3d games because after 10 seconds or less windows close the game and appears windows desktop.
I've installed an external video card and everithing works fine.
Does anybody know how can I use the internal video card?

Hi Wonkanoby,
Thx for the link! I am aware that also other people have had the same problem as I have not only with the Crucial but also with other RAM modules.
I did plan originally to get hold of 1 Gig's worth of Corsair as it looks most likely to work but it crossed my mind that I think it will not be a 100% stable system still :(
Following this I contactd Crucial directly because I wanted to send the RAM back to them so I could be credited. The employee had a word with the enginneer and he explained that Crucial could replace the module and give it another try as they were aware of a problem with the K7N2G-LISR board?? Looking on the paperwork that comes with the module it does say "Upgrade for a MSI (Micro Star) MS-6570 (K7N2G) system)". I only mentioned that I had a K7N2G motherboard and there are all the other details there so it seems that even Crucial know about the problems with this m/b. I took their word for it and would decide to give it a try in the hope I could finally sort this problem out but unfortunately it is the same problem :(
The only thing we can wait for now is a strong BIOS update (see my post in the BIOS section) which will fix these problems with the NforceII chipset. How long we will have to wait is another matter. I for one cannot wait to long because I bought my board from E-buyer and their policy of RMA is 28 days or even shorter I think (cant quite remember). I hope MSI can supply because the board is impressive if it did work.

First time computer builder - using K7N2G-LISR

Here is my story:
I am a first time part by part computer builder, I have installed every product except a CPU and Motherboard seperately. This was my first time buying each part on its own and assembling it myself though.
The parts I am using are:
MSI K7N2G-LISR motherboard
Athlon XP 2400
512 MB 2700 DDR Corsair XMS Ram
40 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM HD
Sony 32x CD-Ron
Integrated Graphics
400W Power Supply
Vantec Aeroflow heatsink
I had some trouble installing the heatsink. I had both paste and thermal pads, since it was my first time doing this and thermal pads seemed alot easier, I tried out one of them. I continued putting the PC together and everything was working just fine.
I got to the BIOS and messed around with the settings a bit. I realized I accidently set my HD as slave to the CD-Rom. I also set it to High Performance, and allocated 128 MB of ram to the onboard graphics. Before exiting out of the bios, I checked my CPU temp and it was a whopping 64C/148F. After I powered down, I fixed my HD/CD-Rom to the proper settings, and took off my heatsink.
I removed what was left of the thermal pad and scraped as much away as I could. I then put a little layer of thermal paste on top of the CPU using the credit card method. I had a little trouble putting the heatsink back on, using its side clip.
The computer refuses to boot up at all now.
The diagnostic lights will vary depending on what settings I have, between:
(R= Red, G= Green)
R G
R R
(Memory Detection Test)
I don't know how long it is supposed to sit there, but I gave it a minute. This was the first hang-up I encountered. I had two sticks of 256 MB so I alternated between the two sticks in different DIMMs, but nothing worked.
After screwing around and putting the original settings back (with the HD/CD-Rom) I got this message:
G G
G R
(Testing Real Time Clock)
It hung there for a while too.
I left the HD/CD-Rom configuration, removed the ram, and got:
R G
R G
(Testing base and extended memory)
Again, it just sat.
No matter what I do, I can't seem to get past this stage.
My question is this:
Did I fry my CPU? If not, could you think of something else preventing me from starting up?

Well it's certainly possible that you did fry the CPU but I don't think so at this point...
Do this:
UNPLUG the machine
UNPLUG the MB from the PS
Ground yourself if possible otherwise make sure you have touched METAL on the case prior to unplugging it. And don't walk around on the carpet or shuffle your feet.
Set the HD on the Primary IDE as Single Drive/Master
Set the CDROM on the Secondary IDE as Single/Master
Take off your Heatsink and clean it really well and get ALL of the old goo off of it and the processor. Use Orange Clean as I've found it really does the best job. Put the paste (Arctic Silver II if you can get it) back on and install the fan/heatsink again.
Install 1 stick of memory in slot 3
Plug in the Floppy
Plug in the system fans and the power hookups
Plug in the MB to the PSupply
Find the jumper to reset the CMOS/BIOS and set it to clear
wait the amount of time it says in the manual and set it back. sometimes you have to remove the battery to get it to reset so you might just do that first and then do the jumper
Plug in the PS and start up the system and see what happens.
If it doesn't start you may have fried any number of things in the machine so you'll have to start replacing them one by one to figure out what the problem is.
Hope it works tho!! 8)

Agp only at 1x on a lisr

is there a setting in the bios or anywhere to enable 4x graphics for my lisr on board IGP? or do i have a defective board? all bench marking proggies show my agp as running 1x or in pci mode. HELP!!!!

GART Drivers are probably not loaded.
Try loading the Chipset Drivers....did you encounter any problems during the drivers installation?

KT6 Delta LISR + Hauppauge DVB Nexus-s = Halt ?

Hello, my configuration is:
KT6 Delta Lisr
AMD XP3000+
512Mb Corsair XMS @ 433Mhz
Gainward GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128mb
Creative SB Audigy 2
2x Maxtor 80Gb PATA => Promise
1x IBM DTLA Series 40Gb PATA => Via
1x Pionner DVR-A06 => Via
1x Liteon DVD (pretty old, but still functional) => Via
The problem is:
When I massively use the disks and the nexus-s is active, the system freezes...
I think this is some kind of conflict between South bridge (both Via & Promise??) and the DVB Board....
I already asked to the Hauppauge Tech Support and they told me to go to here
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Sorry for my bad English.

I had the same problem with this "motherboard" in Win2000 and WinXP,
the raid system crashed the system. Specialy when the dvb cards or the Lan (DSL internet) was active. But also massiv movement of files in the raid system was unable with system crashes. Also my two hauppauge dvb cards were inactivated.
Specialy my bluetooth keyboard and mouse did not work with the raid-system.
I tested it in Raid 0,1 or only as two HDs
After over four month of tetsing different drivers (old and newest) and Systems (Win89, 2000, XP) I changed my mainbard becaude nobody was able to help me.
I replaced it with the Gigabyte GA-7NNXP and after reinstallation of Windows
it works only fine. After 2 days massiv testing, I had no hang up again.
I tested the board with permanently connetction and download from the Internet, two hauppauge cards permanently working (DVB-C and DVB-S, partly with recording on both cards ant the same time onto the raid system), also loop playing of a wav-file and and a mpeg file and sometimes moving big amounts of datas (over 40 Gb in one movement severall times. Alos my Blootooth Keyboard and mouse works.
Conclusion: to buy teh MSI board was thes worst error I made. I had never a board since I built my Computers myselfe for the last 10 years. I built over 20 Systems and after a few days they all worked correctly. But this MSI board did not work after four month. A lot of money for nothing.
My System:
GA-7NNXP
AMD XP3200+
2 * 512Mb Corsair 400Mhz in dual channel mode
Leadtek GeForce FX 59000 Ultra
2x Seagate 80Gb ATA
1X Seagate 80Gb ATA GA-Raid
2X Samsung 120 GB S-ATA Raid
1x Liteon DVD CD-RW
1x Ricoh MP5125A DVD-RW
1x Liteon DVD
1x Hauppauge DVB-S
1x Hauppauge DVB-C
Hope for you you can fin a solution because to buy a new mainboard after a few month is not very cheep.

When will a new BIOS for K7N2G-LISR be released

Anyone have any idea when a new BIOS for the K7N2G-LISR will be released or if a new beta bios is available :D

I have a BIOS bug for MSI.
I can't disable the tv-out function. Therefore I can't watch any DVD's. I have to take out my G3 to enable me to adjust the onboard GFX settings and there is no option to disable tv-out as described in the manual.
I have emailed MSI and their tech support are either extremely busy or completely useless like their software.
This is completely driving me up the fecking wall!!!
I love MSI hardware but I have to avoid any MSI software like the plague... unfortunately the BIOS is unavoidable.
MSI, please sort this or I will be forced to return my hardware and look for another brand. I'm considering ABIT so be warned.
Could we draw up a list of bugs to give to MSI so we can try and get them sorted?
Sorry for the ranting, but theres not much I can do. :(
L8rz

K7N2 Delta LISR SATA problem

Can anyone tell me regarding the K7N2 Delta LISR SATA HDD...
do we have to create array first b4 installing win98/winxp?
I can't find the way installing without creating an array. I remember it's not required for KT6 Delta?
after creating array, in fdisk mode it run so slowly!!! Is it normal?
anyone help is appreciated!!!
p/s: it's single SATA 80GB Seagate HDD

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Jumper Settings for K7N2 Delta LISR and Athlon 3200 FSB400

Hello Everyone,
(I think I sent this to Raven By E-Mail but I'm not sure, I'm still new to this)
Having problems understanding jumper settings.
I cheched out the forum and the motherboard users guide to see which way the jumpers are set for my Board K7N2 LISR + Athlon 3200+ 400FSB.
In the user guide it say's:-
FSB Mode Jumper: J10
This jumper allows you to set the CPU FSB mode, (It then shows two diagrams of Jumper 10) - first with pins 1 and 2 jumpered "user mode default 133Mhz" and the secound shows pins 2 and 3 jumpered "safe mode 100Mhz".
What has settings 133Mhz or 100Mhz got to do with a 400 FSB??????
CPU FSB Frequency Jumper: J11
This jumper is used to specify the CPU FSB frequency. (again it shows two Diagrams) first: Leave the jumper short connected if a 133/166Mhz FSB is installed.
Secound:If the CPU supports 100Mhz FSB, leave the jumper open connected.
To use a 200Mhz FSB CPU, set the jumper short connected and enter BIOS setup Utility to adjust the CPU FSB Clock Frequency.
Again what has 133/166Mhz or 100Mhz got to do with a 400 FSB???????
For my K7N2 Delta LISR and Athlon Barton 3200+ 400 FSB, what Would I set J10 to:- (Jumpered Pins 1 and 2,= 133Mhz) or (Jumpered 2 and 3,= 100Mhz).
Also what would I set J11 to:- (Jumper pins Open = 100Mhz) or (Jumper short 133/166Mhz). Hope someone can help!!!!!!!!!
It would be nice if the User's Guide had a (If .... Then..... in it)
If CPU = Athlon 2800+ 333 FSB, Then J10 is jumpered pins 1 and 2,
If CPU = Athlon.... etc etc.... or even a couple of examples
Sorry this is so long, but I just need to tell someone, Thanks.

1 insafe mode it will boot at 100 fsb regardless of what you set in the bios
in user it will boot by what it sees the cpu as or what you set it to in the bios
just leave it in user
if you o/c and it will not boot shut down put it in safe
then lower the o/c once it boots
again shut down and put it back in user
2 just leave it shorted
only alter it if you used a 100 fsb cpu

K7N2G-LISR

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K7n2g-lisr
AMD XP 2200+
Western Digital 80 HD
512 ddr 333
Piooner dvd
Lg writer
I think it could be the ram because i have read here that it should be better if you buy i good ram stick. I bought a cheap one, i dont know the trademark now. It reboots me when it wants...

MSI nForce2 board REVIEWED- version: K7N2G-LISR

In my spanking new copy of PCPro.
Ratings (out of max 6 stars)
Performance 6
Features 6
Value for Money 5
Availability: next week (when the mag comes out on the newsstand)
Price 129 quid plus VAT
Supplier: Simply website
I can put up some quotes from this mag if anyone wants :D

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MSI has elected to deliver most of the features with its new K7N2G-LISR board, which includes both the IGP integrated graphics and the the MCP-T south bridge controller... Four USB2 ports and 10/100BaseTX Ethernet..on the backpanel and MSi also provides a backplate with 2 Firewire ports. Another backplate features TV-out.
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However, MSI has only put one VGA D-sub on the backpanel so dual-monitor setups are out of the question.
MSI has added a Promise PDC20376 RAID controller... a superb device supporting ATA/133 and Serial ATA RAID
Specs:
nForce2 GT chipset
3 DDR slots
one AGP8x slot
5 PCI slots
one ACR slot
floppy disk
2 SATA channels
3 ATA/133 channels
4 USB2 ports
1parallel 1 serial 1 VGA, 2 PS/2, line-in, mic, line-out
Nforce audio
10/100 BaseTX Ethernet
backplates with 2Firewire, 2 USB2, composite and S-Video TV-out and audio
Utility CD
HTH,

MSI K7N2G-LISR

Hey, i just wanna say that i got my MSI K7N2G-LISR MB to day and it's working fine well...almost...i have a CPU:
AMD CPU Athlon XP 2000 1.667GHz Socket-A 266MHz FSB Tray "Thoroughbred"
AND in the bios it is on 1.25 gHz ?
somebody know why it is on automatic. ore something ?(

Are you using the onboard video? Will your monitor support anything more? What drivers are you using with your video?
Give us a rundown on the specs of your machine if you would...use my signature as an example if you want. It'll help us determine how to help you.
8)

K7N2G-LISR wheres my lan?

ive been using this board for about 6 months with no probs using a usb adsl modem,ive now decided to set up a nework between it and my laptop but im unable to activate my lan port any ideas please?
msi k7n2g-lisr
amd 2800+ athlon
512 ddr 3200
geforce t1 4200
120g WD HDD 8mb cache
pioneer 106d dvd rom
pioneer 107 dvdrw
nec 2500 dvdrw
80g WD HDD 2mb in caddy through firewire
antec case and 480w true power psu

there should be a rj45 socket alongside your sound connection on the back plate.
if there isnt, then u aint got the L part of it.
take the baord back because you didnt get what was being sold under the description. should have no effect on your rights as far as returning it is concerned.

MSI K7N2G-LISR Vcore-problems! Anyone?

Hi!
I just bought my new MB the other day. But it won't start if I raise the voltage at the Vcore!!
My CPU is a T-bred XP2100+, 512 MB Twinmos PC3200, and Thermaltake Volcano 7+ (w/modified fan).
I tested these parts at another MB, and reached 2,25 Ghz at 1,775 volt.
However, the MSI-card won't start when I modify the voltage at the vcore. I tried with only 1,625 V and it wouldn't start. The pc and all the fans start up, but the screen i all black.
Can anyone please help me with this one?

well well... I returned the board back to my supplier and got the money back. Won't risk my warranty by volt-modding my card.
I've had these MSI-cards:
K7Pro2a
K7Turbo-R
K7Pro266-R
KT3 Ultra-ARU
K7N2G-LISR
But this time I change to Asus, Epox or Abit.
My T-bred Xp2100+ is running at normal speed, aposed to xp2900+ speed with an increase in the voltage at the Abit NF7-S. It's really a shame that MSI has this problem. I've always liked MSI cards due to their bundles, and full of specifications.
Their lack of Extreme overclocking possibillities has never bothered me, as their little tweaking advantages have been enough for me. But this time... it's just to little..
To bad MSI..

K7N2G-LISR & VisionTek Geforce4 TI4600

Greetings all.
I'm havin' a problem with FPS in games. The video skips pretty badly. It seems to skip about 5 frames every second.
Specs & Settings:
Proc: AMD XP2000+
-FSB 133
Mobo: k7n2g-LISR
-Bios: v1.2
-8x AGP disabled
RAM: Kingston 1024 megs PC3200 DDR
Video: VisionTek GeForce4 Ti4600 (4x version)
-nVidia v43.45 Detonator drivers
OpSys: Windows 2000 Pro (also used Windows XP SP1)
-Service Pack 3 installed
-All windows updates installed

Where would one turn that off? I checked both in the game and in display properties.
Edit - NM found it. nVidia hid it. That didn't work either.

To LISR or not to LISR

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