To purchase Canon HV30?

I have a Canon Elura 100. Nice quality video.
If I do not shoot in HD, is Canon HV30 that much better?
Thanks in advance for any help with this non-imovie specific question!

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Questions - Canon HV30/HV20 users

After reading several reviews I’m thinking of purchasing a Canon HV30 camcorder to do some HD recording. Yet I am proceeding with caution - HD files are huge and I’m wondering in a generally way how my - intel 24” 2.15 GHz - RAM at 3gig iMac will perform? Will it perform real time video captures etc. with this tape based camera? I am a patient sort of person and don’t mind waiting for things to process but is it even reasonable to use this setup for HD.
2nd Question --
– I use iMovie 6 and Final Cut Express 3.5. I have several large capacity FW 800 external drives connected to the iMac I would like to use with this camcorder.
However there's always unexpected things like I have read the Canon HV30 uses FW400 port and does not like any other FW devices connected when capturing video to the computer – So does that include the FW800 port as well?
Perhaps a few of you have some experience with the HV30 or HV20 - I’d like to hear your thoughts on what to expect - would it be a good choice. What are your brags and nags about your HV30?
I know that's subjective but I'm looking for good video quality - ease of editing and having the ability to save the edited movie back to tape. Latter when bluray media and burners get more reasonable I may burn the edited movies to disk.
Thanks for any thoughts,
Steve
800 mhz eMac 768MBs RAM - 2gig 17" G5 iMac, 24" 2.1gig iMac 3g RAM Mac OS X (10.4.11)
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Hi Ron,
Sorry your having problems - If you live near an Apple store or a friend that has latter hardware/software on their Mac try the HV30 at least you wold know if somethings wrong with the cameras FW port or not. Perhaps you can get the camera exchanged. I have head from quite a number of folks their HV30 work fine with Macs, iMovie an FCE.
I went ahead and purchased the HV30 it should arrive early this coming week -
One thing - As I mentioned before in other posts to this board I do have a Canon gl2 and it is very touchy about any other FW devices connected most times the computer will not even recognize the camera. Try the HV30 as the only device on the FW port. I'm using iMovie 6.0.4 and FCE 3.5 I'll post how things go - you have got me a little worried though.
My 2 cents - best wishes,
Steve
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Connecting a Canon HV30 camcorder vai a thunderbolt port to a new imac

Hi all
I was using imovie 11 with my old imac (purchased Summer 2008) using the firewire connection to transfer DV/HDV video from my Canon HV30 camcorder (tape). I just bought a new 27 inch imac with the thunderbolt ports and now I am stuck as there is no firewire
The camcorder had a 4 pin firewire output so I have tried the following
Used the original camcorder cable (Firewire 400), converted to firewire 800 with an adapter and then used the Apple firewire to thunderbolt adapter
Used a cable that converted the 4 pin firewire to firewire 800 and then used the Apple firewire to thunderbolt adapter.
In each case, imovie is not seeing the camcorder.
I know that my camcorder is not listed as being supported by imovie but has worked fawlessly on my old machine running the same software and operation system (Mountain Lion)
Any ideas - thanks
Kevin

Hi epjustin,
What I said in the previous post (Oct 9 2013) works for me but I can try to explain in more detail if that helps.
Firstly. remove the battery or the ac power connection from the camcorder. - VERY IMPORTANT
Turn on the Imac and login
Attach a thunderbolt to firewire 800 adapter to the IMac thunderbolt port - you can get this from the Apple Store
Now attach a firewire 800 to firewire 400 adapter to the the end of the previous adapter. You should now have the appropriate firewire 400 connection so that you can attach the original firewire cable that came with the camcorder.
Now connect the camcorder cable to complete the connection between the camcorder and the computer
Now connect the power supply or the battery to the camcorder and turn on the camcorder. Set the camcorder up so that it exports through the cable as normal
You should now be able to detect the camcorder in imovie. If you can't see the camcorder in imovie, go into system report from about this mac and you should see an entry in the thunderbolt section relating to the connected camera.
As I mentioned above, turn on and disconnect the power from the camcorder before disconnecting the camcorder from the Imac or turning off the Imac
If you can't get things to work, you may want to try connecting the camcorder to another computer as there is a chance that the board is fried if it doesn't work
Please let me know if you need any further help
Kevin

Premiere Elements 10 - can't play back imported HD video (from Canon HV30) in Quicktime or FCP

After playing around with the trial version, I eagerly purchased Photoshop Elements 10 Premiere for its ability to edit video from my Sony Cybershot camera (Final Cut Pro would not do this) and for its ability to import video from my Canon HV30 HD camcorder (Final Cut Pro is really fussy on this).
Also liked the option of importing without breaking in to individual scenes. FCP and iMovie won't do this.
So, after the first import of a tape, I discover that the imported file will NOT play via Quicktime, and when I imported that file into Final Cut Pro, I got the eternal circle icon which lead to a crash.
What's going on here?

Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037?tstart=0
What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811?tstart=0
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037?tstart=0
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below
For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
For Mac http://mediainfo.massanti.com/

Best Settings using the new Canon HV30 and Final Cut Express HD v3.5.1?

My wife presents programs at schools and uses digital movies that we make and edit as one of her media materials. We want to present higher quality videos that look more film-like. I am hoping that the combination I described above will enable this improvement. In the past we used a Canon ZR20 and iMovie HD and put these on DVD's that were then played on a MacBook Pro with with QuickTime or iDVD hooked up to an Epson PowerLite projector.
I am now the proud owner of a new Canon HV30 and Final Cut Express HD3.5.1 (had FCE for a while so know how to use it). From my research, though, it looks like FCE will not be able to handle CINE MODE recording in combination with 24fps progressive frame rate [HDV(PF24)] which would allow the enhanced effect of the Cinema Mode. I can't justify the cost of Final Cut Studio 2 so I am hoping that the new [HDV(PF30)] will allow me to more easily edit in FCE.
Does anyone know if this is true and if so can please tell me the settings that I need both on the camera and in FCE to get the best quality movie that can played directly from my MacPro using QuickTime or iDVD or from a DVD in the MacPro using the iDVD player. I won't have the opportunity to always play the videos directly from the camera to an HDTV because of the school setting and the need to use a projector.
I know this is a lot to ask for, but I am sure that it will come up again and again as more people purchase this new camera. Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,
Lou Hosta

Without totally repeating myself with my post to MaccyLeopard, I haven't shot any footage yet. After doing a lot of reading I think I confused myself more than helped myself as far as settings go. So if you remember from my initial post I am asking for advice and guidance primarily on camera settings with the HV30 that will be used in a classroom (artroom) setting and then edited using FCE HD v3.5.1. I wish I was the type of person that could jump right into using a new piece of equipment but I like to get the advice of others beforehand. That way I'm not always questioning myself as to 'whether or not is this the best I can get'. I also am wondering if the 30fps frame mode would be the best to use in the classroom setting? From my reading, this mode should allow more light onto the tape allowing me to shoot in conditions with lower light levels that are typically found inside? Finally, is FCE HD able to edit this new 30 fps frame mode of the HD30? I've heard that FCE HD can't handle the 20 fps frame mode.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Sincerely,
Lou Hosta

Canon HV30 Question

Hello.
I just purchased a Canon HV30. I shot some sample footage in HDV. Then created an easy setup in FCP...HDV 1080i60 Firewire Basic (1440x1080). I captured the footage and placed the footage on the timeline..The footage however needs to be rendered...Is that how it works? All HDV footage needs to be rendered? Or do I have my sequence settings wrong? My sequence is set to 1140x1080 HD 16:9.
Thanks for your help.
Ian

#28 Having to render every clip in the timeline
Shane's Stock Answer #28: When I put a clip in the timline, I have to render it before it will play. Why?
Your clip settings MUST match your timeline settings. If you have DV/NTSC material, you need a DV/NTSC timeline. The frame rate, audio rate and dimensions (4:3, 16:9) all need to match exactly.
The most important thing you need to do is properly set up your project from the start. It is always advisable to use the Easy Setups. Here is an in-depth article on the topic:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/settings_fcp_5balis.html
Shane

Using Canon HV30 in 30p mode - settings for FCE?

I'm a little confused about the best settings in FCE for capturing video shot in 30p mode on a Canon HV30. I know (from the manual) that the HV30 records the 30p video at 1080i specifications.
Should the Easy Setup be set for AIC 1080i60, or AIC 720p30 (I don't see an option for 1080p30)? I want my end result to be progressive, not interlaced. The movies will be burned on DVDs, for display on computers, regular TVs, and HD TVs.
Likewise, when I create a sequence, should I select AIC 1440x1080i60, or AIC 720p30?
FCE seems to gladly let me use any combination of these. If the answer is “it depends”, then what does it depend on?
Thanks.

coachwpb wrote:
I am just learning a lot of this stuff, but here's my 2 cents...
Yeah, I've been using FCE for a couple of months with my Elura 65 SD camcorder. I just got my HV30 last week, so I'm trying to wrap my brain around all the HD options.
I just bought the HV30 a few weeks ago. I set my Easy Setup to 1080i60 and it captures fine (remember, though, your capture screen will be different than regular DV capture. It will have no controls, just the screen and you press esc when you're done.)
I've noted that FCE often doesn't recognize ESC when I hit it. When that happens, I manually stop the camcorder, and the FCE thinks it's reached the end-of-tape, which has the same effect.
Once you import it, it will show as 1440x1080, even though you may have read stuff in the manual about 1920x1080. 1440 is what it captures at b/c that's how it is able to store it on miniDV tapes. This is a miniDV thing, not a FCE thing. (I spent a few days on that one!)
When working with it in FCE, you will see the sequence and captured video settings as 1440x1080 (I believe the sequence will be created from settings specified in the Easy Setup, so it'll be 1440x1080.) When you export it, however, you will see the info on the exported file as 1920x1080.
I do not think you are going to have a choice in shooting at 720p with the HV30, or at least I have personally not found a way to do that.
I was looking at the 720p option just because it was the only one that indicated Progressive.
I believe I've heard that one can use the 720p import option to reduce the capture file size, at the expense of some resolution (but it's still HD). Anyone have any comments on that?
In terms of all the destinations you're seeking for this video, saddle up, because you're in for quite a ride figuring out this HD stuff. It is not trivial. I am so frustrated at the moment with much of it that I'm likely to shoot in regular DV mode for a while until this stuff settles down into some easier (read: more commonly adopted) ways to work with HD video.
My final destination is a DVD via iDVD. It seems that just exporting as a QuickTime movie (not Using QuickTime Conversion...), selecting Audio and Video, and Include Chapter Markers (if I'm using them), produces a .mov file that drops right into iDVD. I also choose Make Movie Self-Contained, which results in large files, but I want to archive them and don't want them location-dependent.
My advise is to start playing around with it (using short clips!) and testing some stuff out, then posting specific questions to what you're trying to accomplish. These forums are amazing. And I just ordered Tom Wolsky's book on FCE 4 as he is a machine on these forums and I've read great things about the book.
That's what I've been doing.
And I'm also a Wolsky fanboy - I purchased his +Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop+ shortly after I started learning FCE, and that book has been very helpful. My main issue right now is coordinating the settings in my HV30 with the FCE settings.
Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
-Gordon

Canon HV30 and iMovie

I am going to be teaching a high school film class next year which contains a production element. This is not my area of strength so I am trying to learn as much as possible and pick the right equipment. After much consideration, I am looking at buying the Canon HV30 because it has jacks for both an external mic and headphones, and records to miniDV, which makes sense for us in high school. However, I am worried about the system requirements to edit High definition video, as the Macs we have at school are Emacs and about 4 years old. I can definitely buy portable hard drives to hook up to these computers but I'm wondering if that will be enough, and if so, how much hard drive I should buy. Also, I would like to use an older version of iMovie than version 8.
So...can anyone tell me what system/memory requirements I will need to transfer and edit files from the Canon HV30 to a Mac, and whether I can use iMovie 6?
Thank you so much in advance for any help you can give me!

a G4/~700MHz device is a bit 'underpowered' for HiDef.. allthough, iMHD5 will run on it .. (not sure about vers6 ); as this set-up is 'antique', G4 should be used with OsX.3.x, QTvers6.x, iTunes vers5/6 .. not easy to maintain such a set-up ..
problem is:
your HiDef imports from HDV will get converted by iM first into AppleIntermediateCodec.. (~40-60GB/h).. this is a process of high computation.. your students will notice looooooong periods, iM isn't responsive..
I assume, your task is a bit too ... ambitious for your hardware ..
MacMinis (Intel) are actually 'cheap' to buy ... consider purchase of 2-3 devices as 'HiDef workstations' ...

Importing footage from my canon hv30 video looks slow why?

Footage done in canon hv30 HD looks a bit slow audio is ok. I try putting case in none and it looks just a bit better. somebody?

This camera doesn't actually shoot 24fps. It shoots 24 over 60.
"You can change the camcorder's frame capture rate to 24p (recorded at 60i), which provides the appearance of the same frame rate as movie film." (From the Canon web site)
This means the tape is actually recording 29.97 with pulldown added to make up the difference.
Bottom line: the media is 29.97, what iMovie calls 30.

Premiere Elements 11 no longer recognizes Canon HV30

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated to my problem. I have been using PE 11 to download HD camcorder footage from my Canon HV30 camcorder to hard drive. I've gone through about 15 tapes and all was going well. Two days ago I went to download the next tape and PE no longer recognizes the Canon.
My setup: Windows 7. Canon HV30 connected to PC using Firewire cable. Drivers updated, etc. The cable appears fine (if I force PE to switch to "standard definition camcorder" the Canon appears as "Microsoft Camcorder" and PE will control the camcorder). I have tried plugging/unplugging cable at various times; starting PE with and without camera plugged in; uninstalled and reinstalled drivers for the firewire card. I am now at my wit's end.
The only change between when I last downloaded footage on Sunday and Wednesday was a MS Windows update and Quicktime update. So I have uninstalled Quicktime. Went through the same tests: start with/without Canon turned on; reboot, etc. Nothing works and I'm at a loss. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Pacoinmass
First thing, quickly reinstall the latest verison of QuickTime or use the version that was just updated. QuickTime is a requirement.
If you want the 7.7.4 prior version, please try the following link. But, for now I would go with the latest version of QuickTime 7.7.5.
http://www.oldapps.com/quicktime_player.php
Download and install HDVSplit and do a capture firewire with it. That will give you split clips MPEG2.m2t to put on your Timeline.
Here we are using it as a troubleshooting tool. If it works, it may become your permanent tool.
Did you remove the Windows Update?
In Edit Menu/Preferences/Scratch Disks, where do you have the Captured Video and Captured Audio fills directed? How much free hard drive space is at that location?
Please review and let us know if any of the above had any impact on your situation.
Thanks.
ATR

Connecting Canon HV30 to New Macbook pro with firewire 800

I just received new Macbook pro 2.8 that only has 9 pin firewire 800 connectivity. My previous IMac accepted my Canon HV30 HD video through 4-6 pin firewire 400 with ease, the new laptop will receive the video through 4-9 pin cable but the video color is severely distorted and unusable. Is there a problem with firewire 400 to 800 transfer compatibility?

Yeah, FW400 is compatible with FW800. Only need to find the conversion cable with the correct connectors.Try getting that first and connecting the two, to see if the Mac recognizes it and enables capture. Else visit the camera maker's site to check if they are providing Mac-specific software.

Interlaced frames after using Apple directions for Canon HV30 24p

I have an Canon HV30 HDV video camera and clips that have been recorded using its 24p mode. I'm using the instruction Apple has given to remedy this type of footage in Compressor and output to Pro Res:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US
I've tried this method a couple of times and carefully also. Everything seems to work well other than the fact that I am getting interlaced frames on the last one or two frames of each clip. Sometimes it's the beginning of the clips. As they are supposed to, clips are changing to 24p and when I step through a clip frame by frame everything looks fine, except for those last couple frames. Other methods, like using JES Deinterlacer, do not produce these distorted interlaced frames. However I would prefer to use Compressor. Could it be that I changed some setting or preference in Compressor a while back that is affecting these clips right now?
Please help!
Once again, using Final Cut Studio 2 and a Canon HV30 with 24p clips.

Hello,
I experienced the same thing. But I feel that the first second or two of any clip is not useable, when
editing I have never needed every last frame.
This is not much of a help to you. I think it has to do with the mysteries of HDV, Long GOP, and 2 t0 3 pulldown and the complex post processing that must happen to yield 24 full frames.
Good luck, Tom

Unable to initialize - Canon HV30

Using FCE 4.0.1. with a canon HV30 (PAL setup), but despite the fact that I can upload to iMovie via my firewire, I can't connect to FCE (I get the 'unable to initialize...' message). I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong!! Relatively new to Mac, so go easy!

Trying every possible combination is a recipe for disaster, and may have corrupted one of your preference files. First of all, trash your preferences and repair permissions exactly as described here:
http://fcpbook.com/Misc1.html
Then go to your Easy Setup, and choose the right preset for the footage you're capturing. It should be either DV-PAL or one of the HDV Apple Intermediate Codec presets. Do NOT try every one or make guesses; look at the specifications of the footage you are trying to capture and match them to your Easy Setup. Then try capturing again.
If capturing still doesn't work, check here for possible problems:
http://fcpbook.com/Video10.html
All credit goes to Tom Wolsky for his helpful support pages.

I cannot open my images in elements 12 with my recently purchased canon 760d, what do I need to do to update the softwear

I cannot open my images in elements 12 with my recently purchased canon 760d, what do I need to do to update the softwear

Unfortunately, you're in the wrong forum. This is not the Elements forum.
Here's the link to the forum you want:
https://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements/content

Quicktime - New Video Recording using Canon HV30 - Codec?

I'm using Quicktime Pro 7.4.1 with a Canon HV30 connected via firewire. In Quicktime preferences pane, the HV30 is the video source with "Device Native" as the Quality setting. Though, I can't see a preview in the Quicktime window while recording, it does appear to record footage. When I stop the recording, it says that I don't have the codec to view the footage and sends me to the Quicktime plug-in page on this site, but I have no idea what I need.
Considering some of the codecs (if not all of them) cost money, I'd rather not buy something that won't fix my problem. Anyone have any ideas?
EDIT: Oh yeah, the camera is set to HDV 1080i60 video standard. When I switch the camera to SDV, the Quicktime preview returns and everything works as expected.
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a2043 wrote:
When I try to start a new video recording I receive the following error:
The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -536870206.)
I am using Quicktime Pro on an iMac running Mac OS X 10.6.5. Quicktime will work with iSight but not with my PS3 eye (usb webcam). I am able to choose the PS3 eye from Quicktime preferences and the video screen will show up with video from the PS3 eye (so I know that Quicktime recognizes the cam). But the error dialogue box appears immediately.
Other information - I am using macam.component for Quicktime and the PS3 eye works perfectly with Macam.
Welcome to Discussions, a2043
Has anyone received this error before?
I have not, but I do not use PS3 eye. If it is a "UVC" (usb video class) device, it should work with any Mac running Mac OS X 10.4.9 or later _without additional software drivers_. Some unnecessary drivers can conflict with your Mac's software.
If desired, you can remove the file macam.component from /Library/QuickTime and restart Mac to see if the PS3 eye can work with QuickTime without the additional driver.
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