To Quad or not to Quad??

Hi e'one..
i've got a bit of a dilemma..i need to upgrade from my Pb G4 Ti as am doing a load o wedding photog. at the momment and i will soon need a big mamma to chew all those gbs of pics ( + albums..)as the PB is choking up.
My question is this: should i go for the Power Mac G5 Dual Core Quad that works well with PShop CS2, Bridge, etc (i acknowledge this is the top of the range at the moment, isn't it?) or should i wait till the Quads go Intel (6 months, a year, three weeks,..)
Is there anyone outhere in this sort of akward position..?
TA.
PB G4 Ti Mac OS X (10.4.6) Imac g5 + two emacs
PB G4 Ti Mac OS X (10.4.6) Imac g5 + two emacs

albertino II,
I would definably go for the Quad, AppleCare and about 4-5GB of RAM (Apple's or Crucial.com's if you feel you can install it yourself)
On the Quad, with included Tiger and if you get more RAM, Photoshop CS2 will work directly in RAM, so your hard drive will not be used as a buffer. The performance is outstanding.
However I would get a extra small boot drive and keep my files on the big stock drive. When a large boot drives fill up, it substancially reduces Mac OS X performance. The two drives working together is best.
http://www.barefeats.com/hard33b.html
I wouldn't wait for the Mac Pro's (PowerMac G5 replacement) as there is no Intel Mac based version of Photoshop yet and would likely be a totally new product when it is released many months from now. More $$$.
Also there is a new DVD drive coming out called BlueRay which will of course be in Mac Pro's eventually, Sony is making it and really hasn't ramped up production yet, sometime early next year we should see that. There is also some sort of conflict with the DRM schemes they plan on using with these new machines as well, DRM chip will be needed in a monitor and so forth.
So for what you need right now the Quad and CS2 will do you fine, as you should be able to use most of your PPC based software (some might need a free G5 update from Adobe's website). The Quad will blow you away with it's performance. Also if you like a lot of freedom and control over your hardware, like for copying your own dvd movies and such, the PowerMac G5 is the last non-EFI based Mac. All you need to do is search for Trusted Computing and EFI over at Wikipedia for the gory details.
Then I would wait a few years until this Mac Intel Pro/BlueRay DVD/first issue machine and all new pro software gets worked out to upgrade. That's what I'm doing right now, just waiting.

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JDay wrote:
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yeloop wrote:
...does anyone have an idea of what might cause this behavour and anything I should be trying to resolve it?...
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End User 02/23/2012 I am not asking you for technical support for my current board. I was asking for a recommendation based on my CPU which board is the best MSI makes that will support Quad SLI. MSI Tech. 02/23/2012 this is not the post sale technical support form, please use the proper support form from the following link: http://service.msicomputer.com/msi_user/ts_form.aspx ***this model of the mb only supports SLI, not QUAD SLI: http://us.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-GD65--B3-.html#/?div=Basic

I believe there is a misunderstanding. MSI seems to have their own terminology in which "2 GTX 590s" are not labeled "Quad-SLI" but actually "nVidia (Dual GPU) ( 2 way SLI)" as opposed to "nVidia (Single GPU) ( 2 way SLI)".
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Heya,
Unsupported it may be, but does it run ok? I could
see it having worse performance than on a single-proc
machine, but it shouldn;t have any actual problems.
The guy said that no one's complaining about this
issue because "everyone gets the latest and greatest
software to run on the newest machines" and "that's
Well, given that you have bought their first machine
which supports > 2 concurrent threads [e.g. one system
thread and one app thread], I'd say he's partly right.
Anyone forking out the money for a quad will be [partly]
wasting it if they do not run applications that are
written to be fully multithreaded, i.e. written with
the quad in mind.
This is probably especially true on the Apple platform
as the programmers will assume that the user is on
one of the handful of machines available at the time.
Being inherently lazy, no programmer is going to add the
complexity of supporting n threads if only single-proc
machines are being sold [yeah,ok, there were dual-procs,
but that really means a two-thread system, which is
normally the case anyways ... one for GUI and one for
processing].
to say it, but I have Windows 98 apps from a single
proc that run fine on Windows XP on a dual proc
system.
Given the nature of Windows 98[/95/ME] and the
applications written for it, I am very frightened
for your system integrity
--Mike

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