To update a DNG file?????

Lightroom v1.1 has the following in its Help File----
Save metadata changes to the file manually
* Select one or more photos and choose Metadata > Save Metadata To File.
* In Grid view, click the down arrow icon in a thumbnail image to save (update) the metadata in the file.
Note: The Save Metadata To File command does not update metadata in a DNG file. To update a DNG file, choose Metadata > Update DNG Preview & Metadata.
My 1st question is--
If one maintains their photos in DNG format, based on the above statement does it make ANY sense to check the option File->Catalog Settings->Automatically write changes to XMP?
Taken literally, it seems to me that LR DOES NOT write changes (either manually or automatically) to XMP in a DNG file, unless one specifically uses the "Update DNG Preview & Metadata".
My confusion comes from the process in v1.0 for DNG metadata changes. v1 would save metadata, but you needed ACR 4.X to separately update the JPG.
Which leads me to my 2nd question-
Is Adobe using Preview and embedded JPG as the same thing? I'm assuming :) that what's being updated is the embedded JPG in the DNG and perhaps also any preview in the database.
Obviously, any comments would be appreciated.
Dave

GreSep wrote: I saw another LR discussion that said that with LR 4.3 updating Capture Time would also update Date Time Digitized but it does not do so for me on my DNGs (and as of last month ALL my images were converted to DNGs).
One or two intermediate versions of LR 3 (perhaps Lr 3.6) set DateTimeDigitized when you gave the Metadata > Edit Capture Time command. But for people managing scans in which the capture time of the original image was different than the scan time, this behavior overwrote their scan times, so Adobe backed out of that change. Before and since those versions, the Metadata > Edit Capture Time command just changes the EXIF:DateTimeOriginal and related fields in XMP and IPTC.

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Update old DNG files in LR?

I have some old DNG files converted in LR 1.0. How do I make sure that this files are updated to the latest version of the DNG standard and with the latest improvements and bug fixes for my cameras raw format? Is this handled while I save metadata or do I have to update the DNG file?
Can anybody from Adobe explain why there is hopefully no difference between having a file converted 2 years ago compared to having a nef file and convert it to day with latest version of the DNG converter?

I'm not from Adobe, but IIRC (If I Remember Correctly), you can upgrade the DNGs with the latest version of the DNG converter.

DNG Converter converts existing dng files to.....dng!

Today I decided to convert all of the raw files on one hard drive to dng format. The dng converter has converted about 4,000 of a little over 15,000 raw files so far. I scrolled through the conversion status list and noticed that the converter is also converting existing dng files into dng files thus creating a duplicate. Why in the world would a person need, or want to , convert existing dng files to dng files? I new that I already had some dng files on the hard drive, but I never would have imagined that the converter would include dng files in the list of raw files to convert to dng.
It is not a big deal to find and delete. All I have to do is do a search for all files that end in _1.dng. No biggie, but it seems redundant to me to waste time on this conversion. Is there an option to choose not to convert dng files? I can not look at the moment because the converter is converting dng files and is busy. LOL.

You still have not provided any documentation to back up your assertion that Adobe makes plain, or even unplain for that matter, that DNG files are going to be included in the conversion process. I am not asking you to "slavishly go over a variety of documents in order to provide proof", you state as a matter of fact that the documentation exists. Your failure or inability to produce any proof can only be interpreted as meaning that it does not exist. You are speaking about something that you apparently do not have a clue about. You only seem to act like you know what you are talking about. It is pointless to discuss this with you any longer. I accept the fact that you are not going to be able to provide official Adobe documentation stating that DNG files are going to converted along with camera dependent raw files. Apparently, you had no prior knowledge of this issue, because you did not share a reason in your post. And, you still do not share documentation....because you do not have any! FAIL!
As far as making contributions, just because I have only posted 14 times on this forum is not a clear indicator of my total contributions. I am not going to get into a "I have made this many posts on this forum and that forum argument" with you. It is pointless and childish.
And how were you trying to help me? You were not. You offered nothing. Your comment only had one purpose: to make fun of another person and/or to incite a reaction. You did that very well. You need to be honest with yourself and think about what kind of contribution you were making in your original post. You did not offer anything accept for a smartaleck answer.
As far as acknowledging the utility's ability to convert dng files to newer files, yes I knew that the converter could be used to update existing DNG files. I did not imagine that it would convert an existing dng file and produce a duplicate. Big difference!
And what is wrong with venting? I expressed frustration with something that I found bothering. Adobe would like for everyone to adopt this format. One way of achieving that goal is for people to use the converter. But, if people are not happy with the converter, then they may not convert, or recommend the use of the converter. I use the converter, and I use camera raw to convert to dng as well as converting upon import.
You can not defend yourself on the issue of documentation to back up your claim apparently because it does not exist.
I apologize for referring to you as "Mr. Smartypants". I can clearly see now that I was wrong for calling you that.
I know that I am guilty here of inserting my own emotion into your original response. I have a 50% chance that I was correct in assuming that you were simply being humorous and not condescending. Again, I should have ignored your post as it was completely worthless. I apologize for that.
And, at the moment, I do not feel very smart for participating in this childish discussion with you. I am much too old to be doing this.

How do I update Date Time Digitized to match an updated Capture Time for a DNG file?

I am updating capture time based on GPS Time (a bit OCD, I know) but when I change Capture Time the Date Time Digitized value does not change. This in in LR 4.3 and is not affected by whether on not the Catalog is set to 'Write date or time changes into proprietary raw files'. Maybe this is a problem for DNG files only.

GreSep wrote: I saw another LR discussion that said that with LR 4.3 updating Capture Time would also update Date Time Digitized but it does not do so for me on my DNGs (and as of last month ALL my images were converted to DNGs).
One or two intermediate versions of LR 3 (perhaps Lr 3.6) set DateTimeDigitized when you gave the Metadata > Edit Capture Time command. But for people managing scans in which the capture time of the original image was different than the scan time, this behavior overwrote their scan times, so Adobe backed out of that change. Before and since those versions, the Metadata > Edit Capture Time command just changes the EXIF:DateTimeOriginal and related fields in XMP and IPTC.

Dng files not viewable in bridge cs4 despite all updated. help?

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My Bridge update 5.2.0.4 has wrecked previews for all DNG files. They appear only sideways and small and I can't open Camera Raw in Bridge. Anyone else have the same problem?

I updated Bridge yesterday. CS6 5.2.0.4. Mac OS 10.9.5
Now all previews (DNG files) in Bridge appear sideways and only small thumbnail size.
Also Camera Raw has been disabled.
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Your Performance preferences screen capture reveals you have a single hard drive with little available space to accommodate both the Photoshop scratch file and the swap files of the OS.
It's obvious that Bridge finds itself at times with insufficient space to build its cache.
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rr3rd wrote:
Is there a way to use my CS5 downloader when converting my raw files from my camera to DNG files that will make them compatiple with PS and Bridge CS4?
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I've been using the FastPictureViewer Codec pack so that DNG and camera RAW files show as thumbnails in Explorer for quite some time. Upon upgrading to LR4, DNG files no longer display as thumbnails, but as the generic Windows icon for an image.
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What we solved [in the update] was a crash with the new files. Adobe did not document their
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what happens when owners of proprietary formats decide to change stuff
without notice
If you turn off the "fast load" and "lossy" options the DNG will still be
created following the published 1.3 specification and will work with 3rd
party software including ours.
The "new DNGs" are for Adobe private use only at the moment. We don't know
(beyond vague promises on employees personal blogs) if they will ever
document what they did and publish an updated specification, they are
certainly under no obligation to do so. The decision they took not to
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JS4653 wrote:
The "new DNGs" are for Adobe private use only at the moment. We don't know
(beyond vague promises on employees personal blogs) if they will ever
document what they did and publish an updated specification, they are
certainly under no obligation to do so. The decision they took not to
release updated DNG specs even before LR4 came out was a deliberate one.
Actually JS, RAW files converted to DNG with fast load checked from LR4.0 are read, thumbnails and full images are displayed in preview and with Finder in OSX Lion 10.7.3, along with keywords, EXIF data etc. I don't know whether the preview is the RAW or the fast loaded jpeg
Not that it helps you
Adobe mentioned that they will be making the 1.3 data specs available in the next couple of months, I canna remember the link offhand, and it was a formal post, not an employee blog
Life changes, things upgrade, that is the way of things, but it is very frustrating.

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I know it does help find a solution, but I have run across some older DNG's that will open in LR 2 but will not open in Bridge/CSR 4. (These are DNG's created by Scott Kelby for his LR 2 book - I have attached on to this post.) I can open them first in LR and then tell LR to edit the image in Photoshop and it will open. I have not yet had the issue of LR not being able to open the DNG correctly. However, I may not have done a DNG conversion since I installed the 5.6 upgrade. When I get a chance I will go convert some CR2 files and see what happens.
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I have uploaded one of Kelby's dng's that will not open in my desktop nor laptop Bridge/CSR 4 w/all updates. DNG 5.6 is unable to process them as well. It will import into LR. Other than that I cannot cause DNG's not to load into Bridge/CSR.
Opps the file is too big. You can download it from here. Kelby's Technical Copy Editor told me she did not have the same problem. Weird. I hope you solve your problem.

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Aloha Jim,
I went on Google and typed in DNG 6.3 converter. The following appears:
Product Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter Version 6.3 Platform Windows File
Name DNGConverter_6_3.exe File Size 50.6MB
Proceed to Download<http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=4924&fileID=4585>
I click on the proceed to download. The follow appears.
Camera_Raw_6_3_updater.zip - ZIP archive, unpacked size 37,629,269 bytes
I assume I'm supposed click on this icon that looks like three stacks of
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ZIP archive, unpacked size 37,629,269 bytes. After clicking on the icon, I
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copy). In that window there are 4 folders. The first one does not have any
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third folder says, payloads and the last is like a window, rectangular in
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install. Another messages says, update is not applicable. I don't recall
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arrow pointing down. It is labeled as DNGConverter_6_3. I clicked this
icon and get this open file - security warning window. It states, the
publisher could not be verified. Are you sure you want to run this
software. Name: DNGConverter_6_3.exe. Publisher: Unknown Publisher; Type
Application; From C:\Documents and Settings\(other info. I click on the Run
button I then get an error message saying, Installer integrity -check has
failed. Common causes include incomplete download and damaged media.
Contact the installer's author to obtain a new copy. More information at:
http://nsis.sf.net/NSIS_error.
I don't know what to do. Back in December of 2009, all I did was downloaded
the DNG file that I found on Google, click on the DNG icon, and my NEF were
converted so I could see it in my Photoshop CS.
Am I doing anything wrong. I would prefer not to invest $200 for Photoshop
CS5 since Photoshop CS along with DNG converter were meeting my needs. I
know it may take some time to write this but perhaps could you write down
the step by step process you would do from searching for the DNG converter,
selecting the converter, downloading the converter, activate it so
everything is set up for use with the Photoshop CS. I would appreciate it
very much. It has been very frustrating and time consuming in trying to
resolve this issue. I thought it would be so simple setting it up like the
first time when I first installed it.
Thanks again for responding to this matter. I appreciate it very much.
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