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Using FM 10 with a generated TOC. The first page of a chapter has 2 flows, "Chapter Title" and "Body Text". "Chapter Title" is above "Body Text". The 2 flows are not connected, as I don't want a large title to encroach on the text and mess up its formatting. So the title isn't connected to anything, but the body is connected to the next page.
TOC generated puts the chapter title last, beneath all other entries for that page. Subsequent pages are fine, until the next title page.
Based upon other posts, I have moved the title around the page (up & down), changed the flow names and the paragraph styles and it still puts the one flow's heading last on that page.
Both text flows are defined on the master page.
It seems that whatever is in the one flow will appear first regardless. How can I fix this? How do I get it to read the flows in the proper order?
Help.

A screen shot would help a lot to understand your question.
Getting used to FrameMaker's names for things would also help. In a standard new FrameMaker document created with File > New > Document > Portrait or Landscape, by default, the FM document template presents a main text frame which has the properties Flow Tag A:, and Autoconnect enabled (checked). When you fill a body page text frame, FrameMaker creates a new page with a new text frame that's connected to the previous page's text frame.
This is because the main text frame ("template text frame" in FM-ese) on the master page from which the pages are created, is defined with the Flow A: and Autoconnect properties.
I think you're referring to the two text frames in your document design as "flows." Connected text frames can be different shapes, but in the same text flow. Here's an example of a selection in a single flow that crosses text frame boundaries. It's from File > New > Document > Explore Standard Templates (click down arrow to see more examples) Book > Chapter > Show Sample. View > Text Frames and View > Text Symbols are turned on.
The headline paragraph format sets a lot of space below, so no matter how short or long the headline contained within the upper text frame is, the text that follows is forced to start in the lower text frame. Text in the lower frame always starts at the top of that frame. Space above a paragraph is ignored by the first complete paragraph in the frame; excess space below a paragraph doesn't carry across the frame boundary to the top of the following frame, but it does push the following paragraph to the next frame.
Notice that the two text frames are different widths, so you have almost no limits on how to format the headline and the following text differently from each other.
Matt mentioned that setting the paragraph format property Pagination > Start > Top of Column for the paragraph that follows the headline is another way to assure that it starts at the top of the lower text frame.
In managing spacing between paragraphs, it's important to know that FrameMaker works differently from almost all other text applications: in those other applications, the actual space between paragraphs is the SUM of the space below the "above" paragraph and the space above the following paragraph. In FrameMaker, the LARGER SPACE is the actual space between the paragraphs; IOW, "might makes right." FM's method isn't necessarily better, but IMO it's easier to calculate the inter-paragraph spaces for any combination of consecutive paragraphs.
For example, if a Heading2 is always supposed to have x-amount of space above no matter which of several different paragraphs it follows, when planning the paragraph format properties, if no paragraph will have more than x-amount of space below, then you can rely on the space above Heading2 paragraphs to always be x-amount. However, if some paragraphs that will precede Heading2 paragraphs have greater than x-amount of space below, you'll need to avoid having Heading2 paragraphs follow them. While this sounds a bit tricky, IMO it's easier than calculating the sums of all possible combinations of space above and space below consecutive paragraphs.
Search Google for terms like "FrameMaker space below above between paragraphs," "FrameMaker connecting text frames," and "FrameMaker text frame flows," without quotes for more info on these features.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
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