Tolerance Group DEBI & KRED

We're currently exposed to a risk which is the following:
There are employees who belong to both the DEBI and KRED tolerance group in Table T043T. This leads to a problem because the KRED tolerance allows the user to give discount in excess of that specified for DEBI when doing debtors incoming payments, i.e. if KRED is set to 30% cash discount, then the clerk can grant 30% settlement discount to customers on an incoming payment.
This however is standard SAP, are anyone aware of a solution to this issue or is there a way around this risk? Your input is appreciated.

Hi .,
Tolerence group means that it allows the percent of deviation from the ordr,Tolerence groups are generally meintained in Shipping
For example take tolerence group is mentioned as 10 % & Raise a sales order for 100 Kgs,We can do the delivery of the goods to 100 Kgs + 10 % of the 100 Kgs
REWARD if helpfull
Thanks & Regards
Narayana

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Hello,
In the spro Financial Accounting>General Ledger Accounting>Business Transactions>Open Item Clearing>Clearing Differences-->Define Tolerance Groups for G/L Accounts, according to SAP documentation it is possible: "For G/L account clearing, tolerance groups define the limits within which differences are accepted and automatically posted to predefined
accounts. The groups defined here can be assigned in the general ledger account master record".
I put these setting:
Company Code: XXXX
Tolerance group: XXX
Name: XXXXX
Debit Posting: 0,01 Percentage: 1,0
Credit Posting: 0,01 Percentage: 1,0
Also I populate in the account master data the field Tolerance group with XXX.
Then I used the transaction for automatic clearing F.13 and when I run this transaction I have two document with amount 100,01 and -100 and there is a difference of 0,01.
I'd like to avoid to have this difference and apply a rounding. How it is possible? The spro transaction seems to be used to accept this rounding and not to delete it during the clearing.
Thanks a lot,
Emanuela

Hi,
SAP is not "deleting" the difference during clearing (as you wrote in your last sentence).
Using the function you've mentioned you can define tolerance limits for minor differences to trigger an automatic posting to predefined GL accounts during clearing.
The difference is real, it can't disappear / rounded off.
Best regards, Christian

Define new tolerance group for G/L accounts

Hi,
Where do define new tolerance group for G/L accounts?
Thank in advance.
Swetha

Hi Swatha,
Debit Account
Maximum Revenue Difference on Clearing
     Clearing differences in your favour are permitted up to the amount specified here. The amount always refers to the local currency. Differences up to amount specified are automatically posted by the system as increasing profits. To do this, the system creates new line items.
     In addition to the amount, enter a percentage rate in the Percentage field. The lower of the two limits applies. If you only want to use absolute amounts or percentage rates, you have to enter maximum value in other fields. Ensure that you define these limits for your G/L accounts and your employees. The lower of the two limits applies.
Credit Account
Maximum Expense Difference on Clearing
     Differences to your disadvantage are permitted up to the amount specified here. The amount always refers to the local currency. Differences up to amount are automatically posted by the system as reducing profits.
     In addition to the amount, enter a percentage rate in the field
     Percentage. The lower limit applies. If you only want to use absol amounts or percentage specifications, you have to enter maximum value in other fields. Ensure that you define these limits for your G/L account and your employees. The lower value applies.
May be this information is useful to you
Edited by: surya naveen on Jul 28, 2008 2:11 PM

FS00, Tolerance Group

Dear All,
in Tcode FS00, when i enter Tolerance group in Control Data tab , giving error
"Field Tolerance group: Value RI01 not allowed, Message no. FH701"
I have given , totlerence value anf G/L account for amount posting.
Also checked Tcode OBA), OBA3, OBA4 , OBXZ
Now , where shall i have to check for this error
Regards
Swati

OK, Chintan now i have created another group and my setting like as under
OBA0
Company Code    RI01 Rubamin Limited
Tolerance group RI01 RUBAMIN LIMITED ***
Debit posting        1.00 INR   Percentage      %
Credit posting       1.00 INR   Percentage      %
Group             RI01
Company code      RI01 Rubamin Limited           Vadodara
Currency          INR
OBA4,
Group             RI01
Company code      RI01 Rubamin Limited           Vadodara
Currency          INR
Amount per document                    9,999,999,999.00
Amount per open item account item        999,999,999.00
Cash discount per line item                             %
               Amount      Percent   Cash discnt adj.to
Revenue         1.00       0.1 %
Expense         1.00       0.1 %
I have given Tolerance Group as RI01 in G/L Master.
But still in F-03 , giving same error like ,
"The difference is too large for clearing,Message no. F5263"
Is there any other place , where configuration missing for this error,
Pl let me know
Regards
Swati

OBA4 FI tolerance groups for users - GL account

Dear All,
May I know where is the gl account defined for the permitted payment differences? If in FBKP, then which group to define?
Thanks

Hi
Please use the below mentioned path to define tolerance groups for users and also refer to follow the below link
For normal price difference clearing use the Tcode:OBXL
http://www.scribd.com/doc/51496069/17/Assign-User-Tolerance-Groups
for details please go through the below mentioned points
SPRO>Financial Accounting>General Ledger Accounting>Business Transactions>Open Item Clearing>Clearing Differences>Define Tolerance Groups for G/L Accounts/Define Tolerance Groups for Employees
Upper limit for posting procedure
Maximum Amount Posted per Document
Maximum permitted posting amount per document for this user group.
The posting amount is the total of all debit items or, similarly, the total of all credit items.
Maximum Posting Amount per Line Item
Maximum posting amount permitted per customer or vendor item for this user group.
Maximum Cash Discount Percentage Rate
Maximum cash discount percentage rate which may be assigned by an employee of the user group.
Use
The percentage rate is checked during the entry, change and clearing of open items.
Note
The restriction does not apply to automatically created line items, for example, during payment settlements.
Permitted payment difference
Maximum Payment Difference for Revenue
Payment differences to our advantage are allowed up to the amount entered here.
The amount always refers to the local currency. Payment differences up to the amount entered here are posted automatically by the system as increasing the profit. The system creates line items to show this.
Note
In addition to the amount, you also enter a percentage rate in the Percent field. The lower limit is valid. If you only want to use absolute amounts or percentage specifications, then you must enter the maximum value in every other field.
Note that you define these limits for your customers/vendors and your employees. The lower limit is valid.
Example
The local currency is USD. You have entered 30 USD in the Revenue field and 1 in the Percent field. For incoming payments up to 3000 USD, you accept an overpayment of a maximum of 1 percent. That means, amounts of 0 to a maximum of 30 USD are tolerated, depending on the incoming payment amount. For incoming payments over 3000 USD, you accept an overpayment of up to a maximum of 30 USD.
Maximum Allowable Revenues from Payment Differences
Differences when settling payments are accepted and posted automatically by the system up to the percentage rate entered here. The percentage rate is only valid if the difference is posted as a gain.
The percentage rate is used for the maximum of the debit and credit totals of the items to be cleared.
Note
In addition to the percentage rate, you also enter an amount in the Revenue field. The lower limit is valid. If you only want to use absolute amounts or percentage specifications, you must enter the maximum value in every other field.
Note: You define these limits for your customer/vendor and your employees. The lower limit is valid.
Example
The local currency is USD. You have entered 30 USD in the Revenue field and 1 in the Percent field. For incoming payments of up to 3000 USD, you accept an overpayment of a maximum of 1 percent. That means, amounts of 0 to a maximum of 30 USD are tolerated, depending on the incoming payment amount. For incoming payments over 3000 USD, you accept an overpayment of up to a maximum of 30 USD.
Maximum Discount Adjust. for Gain from Payment Differences
When clearing payments, any payment differences up to the amount specified here are corrected with the cash discount posting as long as the cash discount amount is large enough for the adjustment. The value you specify here is used for differences that represent a gain.
Regards
Praveen PC
Edited by: Praveen Chirakkel on Apr 12, 2011 6:46 AM

Vendor Tolerance Group in automatic payment program F110

Hi Experts,
We use automatic payment program F110 for payment to vendors. We want to define different tolerance group having different grace days to vendors.
e.g. Vendor 1 having tolerance group with 5 days as grace period
Vendor 2 having tolerance group with 10 days as grace period
Is it possible to have different grace days for making payment through F110. We donot want to make manual payment.
Thanks & Regards.

Hi,
Please refer this link:
F110 Payment run Problem
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Pramitha.

Employee tolerance group&G/L acct tolerance group&Customer/Vendor toler.grp

Hi All,
Can anyone explain me in detail about employee tolerance group, G/L acct tolerance group and Customer/Vendor tolerance group?
what is the difference among them and do they have any linkages, like consistency, conflict etc.
Any responses will be awarded,
Regards,
Samson

Hi,
In accounting there are three types of tolerances: Employee tolerance groups, G/L
account tolerance groups, and customer/vendor tolerance groups.
The employee tolerance group is used to control:
1. Upper limits for posting transactions
2. Permitted payment differences
The G/L account tolerance group is used to control:
1. Permitted payment differences (for example, for automatic clearing procedures).
The customer/vendor tolerance groups provide specifications for:
1. Clearing transactions
2. Permitted payment differences
3. Posting residual items from payment differences
4. Tolerances for payment advice notes
The configuration for Tolerance group is:
Tolerance groups for employees, for example:
1. Accountant I
2. Accountant II
3. Accounting manager
Tolerance groups for customers/vendors, for example:
1. Good customers/vendors
2. Not so good customers/vendors
3. Cash only customers/vendors
Tolerance groups for G/L accounts, for example:
1. Clearing accounts (external procurement)
2. Clearing accounts (in-house production)
Regards,
Jigar

Tolerance group setting

Hello,
For the following setting what should be set into tolerance group:
The difference is too large for clearing (Round off difference upto INR 2 should be set off while clearing Vendor line items)
regards

Hi,
Please check the configuration in:
SPRO>IMG>Material Management>Logistics Invoice Verification>Invoice Block--> Set tolerance Limit
in this please check what is the tolerance defined in transaction Key PP for your company code.
Hope this helps!!..
Br,Vivek

Tolerance group for G/L accounts (OBA0)

Hi All,
If i not maintained company code in Tolerance group for G/L accounts (OBA0), what are the transaction codes will not get executed?
as per i know, can not execute f.13, f-03, f-07 and f-06. other then these which are the tcodes will not work?
And please expalin the importance of OBA0 configuration or forward any links.
Regards,
Swetha

hi
i think you understand this
___path for tolerance groups___
define tolerance group for GlTC-obao
MG® Financial Accounting ® Account Receivable and Accounts Payable ® Business Transactions ® Incoming payments®Manual Incoming Payments®define tolerance group for Gl
Tolerance Groups for G/L Accounts
For G/L account clearing, tolerance groups define the limits within
which differences are accepted and automatically posted to predefined
accounts. The groups defined here can be assigned in the general ledger
account master record.
Define tolerance group for employees.TC-oba4
IMG® Financial Accounting ® Account Receivable and Accounts Payable ® Business Transactions ® Incoming payments®Manual Incoming Payments ®Define Tolerance Groups for Employees.
Purpose:
To define:
The maximum document amount to the employee is authorized to post.
The maximum amount the employee can entered as a line item in a vendor account.
The maximum cash discount percentage the employee can grant in a line item.
The maximum acceptable tolerance for payment differences for the employee.
Define tolerance Group for customersTC-oba3
IMG ® Financial accounting ®Account receivables/payables ®Business transaction ® Open item clearing ®clearing difference ® Define tolerances for customers/vendors
regards
sai
Edited by: SAIKUMAR REDDY.BIJJULA on Oct 14, 2008 2:46 PM

Tolerance Groups for G/L Accounts - How to configure

Hi all,
I've got a few basic questions on this topic, hope you can help!
1.
I have created an entry in the transaction "Define tolerance groups for G/L accounts". For this entry I have filled in the company code and tolerance values, but I haven't filled in the tolerance group. Will this tolerance then be applied to all G/L accounts?
2.
What happens if I do allow differences for G/L clearing (through tolerance group) but don't create any accounts for clearing differences?
Kind regards,
SV

1.I have created an entry in the transaction "Define tolerance groups for G/L accounts". For this entry I have filled in the company code and tolerance values, but I haven't filled in the tolerance group. Will this tolerance then be applied to all G/L accounts?
If for a specific company code if you keep this as empty - that group apply to all
in case if you define a group and if you give that in the GL Master then talerance limits applicable to that gl.
2.
What happens if I do allow differences for G/L clearing (through tolerance group) but don't create any accounts for clearing differences?
If any difference you are trying to post for clearing particular gl system not finds any gl and gives you the error to do assigne the gl in that
VVR

AP: Tolerance Group under payment transactions

Good Morning SAP Folks-
What is the purpose of the tolerance group under payment transactions under the Vendor Master?
Thank you!

Hi
Incase of difference in vendor payments(overpayment / underpayment), tolerance group assigned in the vendor master determines whether the difference has to be allowed or not.
Assignment of tolerance group in vendor master is optional. General tolarance for Vendors is set in OBA3 transaction in configuration.
Regards
Rengaraj

Reg tolerance group

Hi,
i am having tolerance group at the time of creatin G/L account in t-code fs00
and at the time of creating vendor account, if i give different tolerance group for vendor and the G/L account for the vendor, which tolerance group will it consider.
REGARDS.
VENKAT.

Hi,
Tolerance Group for Employees is to post a document and Tolerance goup for Vendor/ Customer for the Open Item clearing. The lower limits from the customer/vendor specifications and employee group are taken in each case during
clearing.
You can use different Tolerance goups.
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VK

Tolerance group

hi everyone,
Can you please tell me for following questions which of the best suitable answers from given options
1. Which of the following statements regarding tolerance group are correct
            A.     Invoice from the relevant vendor can be reduced
            B.      Both an absolute and a percentage tolerance limit can be defined for small differences
            C.        Invoices from vendor in which tolerance specified in the tolerance group is exceded can be posted. However they
                        are block for payment.
             D.     Invoice with a certain tolerance range can be accepted on a blanket basis.
2. In the creditor master records for your vendors, you can store tolerance groups for logistics invoice verification. Which possibilities do specification of a tolerance group open up
           A.    Invoices from the relevant vendor can be automatically reduced
           B.    Invoices from the relevant vendor in which the tolerance specified in the tolerance group can be posted, However,
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           C.   Both an absolute and a percentage tolerante limit can be defined for small differences
           D.   Invoices within a certain tolerante range can be accepted on a blanket basis.
Thanks in advance
Shreek

Hi,
Please check the amount you are trying to post and compare the tolerance define for posting a document. This can be checked in configuration under Financial accounting global settings - Document - line item.
Thanks
Murali.

Valuation Group and Tolerance Group - FS00

Hi all,
Can someone please tell me what the field 'valuation group' and 'tolerance group' are used for? I've found a brief description online, but if you could provide me with an example that would be great.
thanks,

Hi
We will use Tolerance group for below mentioned activities
the maximum document amount the employee is authorized to post
the maximum amount the employee can enter as a line item in a customer or vendor account
the maximum cash discount percentage the employee can grant in a line item
the maximum acceptable tolerance for payment differences for the employee
For Valuation Group suggest you to refer below links
Valuation group code in Account determination?
Regards
Praveen

Tolerance group for G/L

Hi,
Can anyone suggest me where can we find the tolerance group for g/l a/cs? If possible can you put the IMG path in return plz.
Reg,
Sridhar.

Hi,
call up SPRO and then go to:
Financial Accounting
--> General Ledger Accounting
--> Business Transactions
--> Open Item Clearing
--> Clearing Differences
---> Define Tolerance Groups for G/L Accounts
You could have executed a text search, the system would have proposed the relevant link in the IMG.
Hope this helps,
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