Tone Curve adjustments Missing

The tone curve adjustments are missing in my copy of lightroom 3
That section of the develop tools resided near the top of the right hand panel.until about 1/2 hour ago. Its now missing
What has happened?

The graph and sliders are not displaying, I can find nothing to check

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    ">
    <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
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       crs:ToneCurveName="Custom">
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    <rdf:li>166, 156</rdf:li>
    <rdf:li>231, 223</rdf:li>
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