Tons of free space, macbook still slow.

I freed space by literally deleting everything except my applications. None of them are currently running, and the computer is still functions slow. I no longer have the installation disk. It there a way to reset things ...or something. Updates are all current as far as I am aware.

astaples wrote:
More RAM is hopefully the answer -
Anyway, make sure your drive isn't one of the seagates, but otherwise RAM is the key...
Hopefully more RAM is not the answer because that will cost a good amount of money. Hopefully it is an errant app, or the Permissions need Rebuilding or the Disk Repair needs run etc. These things are free.
The reason I am so adamant about not over buying RAM is because it costs a lot of money and if you have enough, more will not help. The key is finding out if you do or if you do not have enough for the way you use your computer.
Restart your computer then open Activity Monitor and leave it open, and click on System Memory in the lower half of the window, and then keep an eye on "page outs". Page-ins does not mean a thing for this, disregard it. Now go about your business using your computer in whatever manner that you do that is too slow. Look at the "page outs" number. If it is still zero or is a very low number, as in under a megabyte or so, more RAM will not help one bit. More RAM will help if that number, page outs, climbs and keeps climbing with continued use of the computer.
Page Outs represents how many times the computer had to write the contents of RAM back to the disk drive. That is a very slow process compared to not having to do it at all. If there are no, or very few page outs, then more RAM will only cost you money, not speed up your computer.
If you only have 500MB of installed RAM, and you are running OS 10.4.x, 10.5.x or 10.6.x then it is almost certain that more RAM will help. If you have 2GB it may be questionable if more will help at all. It depends entirely on what apps you run and what exactly you do with them.
I have 4GB RAM because that is what my computer came with. I could easily run it just as fast with 2GB. I rarely ever have less than 2GB free, meaning I rarely ever use that last 2GB. My page outs are of course always zero. And, a few page outs now and then really means little. It is akin to saying that looking out your office window from time to time will slow down your working day. Yes, perhaps a minute or two out of your 8 hour shift.

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  • SLOW MAC: Why does my mac run faster during the "erase free space" operation?

    Hi community!
    So I've been using my Macbook Pro Late 2012 edition for just over a year and a half now, and to no surprise, I find the spinning beachball whirling away more often than I'd care to see it. So I start a full mac clean-up including deleting login items, using Appzapper to clear up my apps, using Onyx to clear up some cache elements, deleting unused files and freeing up hard drive space.
    I've successfully cleared over 60% of disk space, (200GB used, 300GB free), but I find a recurring problem persisting, despite my best efforts to get rid of it. You see, every few seconds, the spinning beach ball appears and freezes up my entire desktop no matter what I'm doing. Trying even the simplest things, like opening the apps in the dock or right clicking a file takes ages, movies freeze up all the time, regardless of what app plays them, finder is slow and it has nothing to do with my ram usage (I use the app FreeMemory to check in real-time how much I'm using) or my CPU usage (Activity monitor open at all times). It has to be the drive.
    So then I tried running ClamXav, and found a windows trojan, which I deleted manually, but no change.
    Now, during all these stages I was regularly running erase free space opeartions (Fast x1), and noticed something curious: during the operation, my problem disappears. I still get occasional loading beach balls, and ocassional jumps in movies, but other than that, I can use my mac normally again.
    So now, I'm constantly running erase free space operations and it's painfully annoying to say the least.
    I've tried defragging, to no avail.
    I had the problem on Mountain Lion, and upgraded to Mavericks thinking that could change it (by the way it took 18 hours to install mavericks, don't know if that's related).
    In other words, I need your help. Does anybody know if I've no choice but to buy an external hardrive, backup my data, and erase my entire homedrive? Can this situation still be salvaged?
    Thanks!

    EtreCheck version: 1.9.12 (48)
    Report generated 17 Jun 2014 08:24:26 GMT+2
    Hardware Information:
              MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012) (Verified)
              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro9,2
              1 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2 cores
              4 GB RAM
    Video Information:
              Intel HD Graphics 4000 - VRAM: (null)
                        Color LCD 1280 x 800
    System Software:
              OS X 10.9.3 (13D65) - Uptime: 1 day 0:37:38
    Disk Information:
              APPLE HDD TOSHIBA MK5065GSXF disk0 : (500,11 GB)
                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB
                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 499,25 GB (287,47 GB free)
                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
              OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5970H 
    USB Information:
              Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
              Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
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              Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
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              /etc/hosts - Count: 15
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              [loaded] com.waves.driver.soundgrid (2.0.0) Support
              [loaded] net.osculator.driver.OSCulatorIOKit (2.0 - SDK 10.5) Support
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              [loaded] org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB (4.2.16) Support
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              PACESupport: Path: /Library/StartupItems/PACESupport
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              [loaded] com.anchorfree.ajaxserver.plist Support
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              [running] com.waves.daemon.SoundGridProtocolService.plist Support
              [loaded] net.sourceforge.MonolingualHelper.plist Support
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              [running] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist Support
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              [loaded] com.facebook.videochat.[redacted].plist Support
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    User Login Items:
              iTunesHelper
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              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 13.0.0.214 - SDK 10.6 Support
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              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 21 Check version
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              ChatZum: Version: 1.31
              AdBlock: Version: 2.6.0
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              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9
              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9
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              Kaleidostrobe: Version: 1.0.0 ©2002 Shehryar Lasi
              Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9
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              BlueStacks Install Detector: Version: Unknown
              Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 Support
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              Flash Player  Support
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              Growl  Support
    Time Machine:
              Time Machine not configured!
    Top Processes by CPU:
                   3%          SGProtocolService
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                   1%          coreaudiod
                   1%          CVMCompiler
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              131 MB          VLC
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              111 MB          mds_stores
              60 MB          WindowServer
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              1.23 GB          Free RAM
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              2.61 GB          Page-ins
              96 MB          Page-outs
    Any clues?

  • TS1503 After an update on my iPhone 4, (I updated using my MacBook Pro) I first received the message, iTunes was not able to load all of iTunes library back on your phone, not enough free space on your phone. (not an exact quote, essentially the same mean

    The complete iTunes library was already on my iPhone 4. Why would it all not go back on? It left out around 4 or 5 songs from my play list. How do I get them back on my iPhone?
    Note: All software on both devices is up to date.
    Then, I tried to sync my iPhone to my MacBook Pro. I got the message, cannot sync your iPhone because there is not enough free space in the iTunes library (not exact quote, but same meaning).
    I researched how to get more free space on my phone which might 'supposedly' alleviate the above issues. I removed some less used apps, and some photos and videos from my phone. Then, I tried backing up again. I still got the message there wasn't enough free space on my phone, and the missing songs from the iTunes library were not returned to my phone. I gave another try at syncing my iPhone. I still got the same message that the phone couldn't be synced because  there wasn't enough free space in the iTunes library.
    Any suggestions on how to remedy these problems will be appreciated!
    BTW... I read a suggestion on the internet to restore my phone (I did  this recently when something went wrong during a phone update and the whole process went 'hey-wire', shutting down before the update was complete. However, at that time, all of my songs and apps were still on my phone and stored in the iTunes library.) If I restore my iPhone now, will the apps and songs no longer on my phone be lost?
    Sorry there are so many questions within the same 'New Discussion' thread I'm starting! But, I think all of these issues are somehow related.
    Thanks!

    I Have fumbled all day to this resolved, I'll run the battery down and see what happens afterwards. This is not good !

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    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964?viewlocale=en_US
    Or clean install of Mavericks could solve the problem.
    How to create an OSX Mavericks install drive.
    http://www.tips-and-tricks-in-mavericks.com/how-to-create-an-os-x-mavericks-inst all-drive/#more-1635

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