Too slow on internal references (InD CS6 [8.0.1] on OSX 10.7.5, 3.4GHz iMac with 16GB memory)

I'm making a 400-page book in the latest version of InDesign. Other books of similar length present no problems, but this particular book has huge numbers of internal references. For example, it says "see page xx for more information," and I'm specifying the xx with an internal page reference, so if the text reflows later the displayed page number remains correct.
That all works fine.
The problem is that there are a LOT of such references, and InDesign response is getting slower and slower. It now takes about 60s to display a reference panel when creating a new one, for example, and about the same length of time to just select a color for a text string.
The Mac has plenty of free memory, according to the activity monitor, so my guess is that reducing the number of active extensions will help.
My questions are:
1. Is there a list anywhere of what each particular extension actually does, so I can tell if I might need it for this job or not?
2. If there is something else I should try in addition to or instead of the above, PLEASE TELL ME!
Thanks for your time.
Edward Lipsett
kurodahan.com
Fukuoka, Japan

If the cause is indeed constant live updating of cross-references, you might want to investigate the commercial InDesign Cross-References plug-in from dtptools.com. It offers the option of turning off live updating. It can convert existing InDesign cross-references to its own (and back,) so there's no manual work needed. There's a free trial. It avoids the problem common to many plug-ins: error messages when opening an InDesign document on a machine that doesn't have the plug-in installed. There's a free Cross-References Reader plug-in for those users. Existing cross-references are maintained when text reflows, but the full product is required to create new cross-references or change their formats.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
Edward Lipsett wrote:
I'm making a 400-page book in the latest version of InDesign. Other books of similar length present no problems, but this particular book has huge numbers of internal references. For example, it says "see page xx for more information," and I'm specifying the xx with an internal page reference, so if the text reflows later the displayed page number remains correct.
That all works fine.
The problem is that there are a LOT of such references, and InDesign response is getting slower and slower. It now takes about 60s to display a reference panel when creating a new one, for example, and about the same length of time to just select a color for a text string.
The Mac has plenty of free memory, according to the activity monitor, so my guess is that reducing the number of active extensions will help.
My questions are:
1. Is there a list anywhere of what each particular extension actually does, so I can tell if I might need it for this job or not?
2. If there is something else I should try in addition to or instead of the above, PLEASE TELL ME!
Thanks for your time.
Edward Lipsett
kurodahan.com
Fukuoka, Japan

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        AND ( BSCHL = '86' OR BSCHL = '96' or BSCHL = '89' OR BSCHL = '99' )
        AND WERKS IN S_WERKS
        AND BUZID <> 'F' .
****************************************this is too slow
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locked by: Thomas Zloch on Aug 5, 2010 2:08 PM

You should have provided the full key of the cluster file behind BSEG (RFBLG), every key is in BKPF, so add BUKRS
SELECT bukrs belnr gjahr buzei buzid bschl shkzg gsber mwskz
       dmbtr hkont lifnr landl matnr werks menge ebelp xref3
INTO CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF TABLE itabbseg
FROM bseg
FOR ALL ENTRIES IN itbkpf
WHERE bukrs = itbkpf-bukrs
    AND belnr = itbkpf-belnr
    AND gjahr = itbkpf-gjahr
    AND ( bschl EQ '86' OR bschl EQ '96' OR bschl EQ '89' OR bschl EQ '99' )
    AND werks IN s_werks
    AND buzid EQ 'F' .
You could also extract the whole accounting document in the internal table, and then delete record using the not-database-key selections.
SELECT bukrs belnr gjahr buzei buzid bschl shkzg gsber mwskz
       dmbtr hkont lifnr landl matnr werks menge ebelp xref3
INTO CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF TABLE itabbseg
FROM bseg
FOR ALL ENTRIES IN itbkpf
WHERE bukrs = itbkpf-bukrs
    AND belnr = itbkpf-belnr
    AND gjahr = itbkpf-gjahr.
DELETE itabbseg WHERE
( bschl NE '86' AND bschl NE '96' AND bschl NE '89' AND bschl NE '99' )
OR NOT ( werks IN s_werks )
OR BUZID NE 'F' .
In both case, perform some tests with tools like SE30 or ST05.
Regards,
Raymond

Disk too slow

Hi there,
I am running logic express 7.2 and tried to run some audio files yesterday. Unfortunatly i cannot run them as i am getting a disk too slow message popping up. I was trying to run 18 x 24bit x 96000hz files. This doesnt strike me as excessive for this day and age. My system:
MacBook Pro, 17-inch, 2.33GHz Intel
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
3GB 667 DDR2 - 2x1GB SO-DIMMs
100GB Serial ATA drive (7200rpm)
Pls can somebody explain what the settings in core audio do? I have tried the biggest buffer and and larger disk buffer setting but no luck. I see the audio slider is rising quite high but again i would expect a machine like this to be able to handle it..
May logic 8 be able to handle this?
Also pls can you let me know how to defrag the drive on a mac?
thanks
richard

You have to consider that your internal disk is accessed by the system and the applications so it will NEVER play those 18 tracks.
If they were 16 or 24 bits at 44.1Khz you could have some chances to play them rightly.
The only solution is to have an external Firewire 400 or 800 (better) or, if you want more, an external array in stripe set 0 or 5.
About the buffer: more buffer = less CPU but more disk activity and more latency
less buffer = more CPU but less disk activity and less latency
And... Logic 8 won't help you with disk performances.
cheers
rob
rob

Disk too slow / System overload HELP?

I'm really hoping someone can help me out with this!:
I purchased a G4 PowerBook around six months ago, with Logic Pro pre-installed. Since then, I have mixed and mastered lots of music that was recorded on a previous system and imported. I was running multiple tracks simultaneously with tons of plug-ins and everything ran smoothly on my new Mac. HOWEVER, within the last month, my playback capabilities have been severely reduced. When I try to play back even two tracks simultaneously (with just one compressor or reverb), I get the error message, "Disk too slow / System overload."
My first reaction to this problem was to check my disk space and see how much room I had left: it turns out I have over one third of my harddrive space still available. I checked my memory capabilities and they seem to be more than adequate. I bought new virus protection, too, and ran scans to see if that might make a difference, but it hasn't. I don't understand why this is happening on a system so new. ANY ADVICE YOU CAN OFFER WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Many thanks.
Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

It is generally not a good idea to run logic on the same drive that contains your audio files and samples. Most of the data involved with logic whether it be programs or individual audio files will be saved physically all over the place on your hard drive. At a certain point the actual part of the drive that reads the data will not be able to move around to all the little different audio files it needs to access for the session on top of running the program and whatever other software that is up. It is best to save all your audio files and samples to a fast external drive (7200rpm at least) otherworldcomputing.com has great drives that have high quality cases and the option to put any drive they have in stock into the case. (i would recommend seagate) If you are going to continue running your entire sessions off the internal drive then you need to keep up with your basic mac housekeeping. You should repair your permissions 2 times a month (use disk utility) You should buy a good directory repair program such as disk warrior. The directory is exactly what it sounds like. It keeps track of where everything is on the computer. If your directory is corrupt the computer will have to do an extra manual search to find what its looking for. If your directory is healthy your computer will make a straight shot to the file you are looking for.

'disk too slow' problems when trying to record ONE TRACK on my ibook.

okay- help guys. my new ibook freezes after not even a minute of one track live recording and i ge the disk too slow error. i'm using a basic m-audio usb interface with the internal (4200 rpm) hard drive. i know this isn't a fast hard drive, but SURELY. one track? i've been in touch with m audio, reinstalled driver, repaired hard disk permissions. still no good. i only ever need to record two live tracks at a time, but then i do need to stack them up a bit. is my ibook really incapable of that? i'm shocked if it is. anyone want to buy an ibook?
any advice much appreciated as i'm going out of my mind.
happy christmas,
adam gilhespy

Adam:
You haven't given a lot of info, but here are a couple of ideas:
1) What sample rate are you using? You should be at 44.1 or 48 kHz. Don't even think of anything higher.
2) Are you recording in a new arrange window? Or are you overdubbing to existing tracks? If so, freeze all your existing tracks.
3) Are you attempting to use any plugins while you're recording? If you are, turn them off for now.
4) How much RAM do you have installed? You need at least 768 MB; more preferably.
5) You're going to need an external drive eventually, but to record one track should be easily done.

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