Touch-up Text Tool and Fonts
We are on Windows 7, Office 2007 and Acrobat 9. We have recently discovered that when you pdf a Word document, open within Acrobat, then try to use the Touch-Up Text Tool, it changes the kerning/character spacing of the text upon saving. The only fix we have found for this is within Word, choose Acrobat Preferences, under Advanced Settings, click on Fonts, and REMOVE the fonts from "Never Embed Fonts" pane. You need to ensure that any font that is in the Word document is removed from this area. This seems odd to me. Can anyone enlighten me on this? See below screen shots of text spacing changes as well as Font Menu.
It is a good practice to embed fonts if Touch Up Text is a tool you often use.
Is the person creating the pdf the person who is editing the created pdf? If not, my guess based on the exclusion list in your post is that the users have different versions of the Arial font installed. There are small, but significant, differences in kerning and line height between different Arial versions.
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Hi,
I ran OCR on a document and wante to play with the touch up text tool. The issue is, I don't know how to view how acrobat has interpreted the words, so how can I figure out what it has got wrong or right without converting to word etc first. I can type touch up text, but its as if I'm using white font and I can only see what I've typed after I put it into word.
On a separate note, how can I get Acrobat to recognise tables so that it can display these tables in a word export?
ThanksHi,
Last first. Tables - OCR provides a "best-estimate" character output of what it 'sees' of the discrete image of the text characters.
It does not interpret format and layout.
Higher end applications ($$) provide additional functionality that may output a reasonable "best-guess" of layout/format (of which tables are a subset).
However, the OCR provided with Acrobat only does the character image recognition.
Acrobat's OCR output is dictated by which of the three modes you use.
These are Searchable Image, Searchable Image (Exact), or ClearScan.
The first two provide a layer of "hidden text".
Use Examine Document to view this Hidden Text.
There is no practicable way to edit this hidden text in a PDF (keyword is "practicable").
However, you could try selecting PDF page content (a page at a time) and, via TouchUp Text tool's context menu go the Properties of the selected text.
In the Text tab, change selected hidden text to a font installed on the local machine. This may be sufficent to support what you want to do.
ClearScan output is where you can work "suspects".
Selecting each PDF page's content in turn, you can use the TouchUp Text Tool to get into the properties of the selected text and change the font to something available on the local machine.
To edit ClearScan post Suspect cleanup you will need to do this.
ClearScan output is an Adobe font created specifically for ClearScan.
Be well... -
Possible to modify blocks of text as defined by Touch Up Text tool?
I have scanned a document and OCRed it. Using the Touch Up Text Tool, I can approach the text, but the text areas are not as defined by the tool. Is there a way to modify a block as defined? I.e. There is a heading over 2 columns of text. The OCR process defined this as one block of text.
Thank you very much for your input.
I'm trying to automate this process as much as possible because I don't want to have to crunch the data manually myself later on, instead just teach someone else how to do it.
The first search and replace action seems basic enough but regarding the second one I would have to manually assign that paragraph style to the line where the data would break because one can only assign character styles in nested styles, right?
Also I've heard that ID CS5 automatically creates new pages based on a template when you paste information inside the first page, is that so? That would be great because that way the person wouldn't have to manually create pages and link the contents throughout the document but instead simply open my template and paste the information within the first master page. That's not possible with CS4, is it?
Thank you very much! -
Scanned pdf - touch up text tool - upside down text
Have a few pdfs created with Acrobat, scanned with a Canon 7080.
When opening the pdfs and using the Touch Up text tool to add text, the text is upside down.
The pdf is oriented correctly.
It does the same on a few other machines so it seems to be something specific the documents.
Most other pdf files are fine.
I have printed to pdf and it fixes the problem (added text is right side up) but I'd like to know how it got messed up to begin with.
Any ideas?
TIASounds like you used the searchable text form of OCR. Thus the text is hidden and that is what is happening. To see the text, you would want to use the ClearScan form of OCR. At this point I don't have any good suggestions. A lot depends on what you are trying to do. In any case, trying to do major editing to a PDF with the text touchup tool is not recommended. Not the name of the tool is touchup, not retype. The method you are using will not make any change to the appearance, only to the hidden text.
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I have an Adobe Flash Professionals digital classroom book and was following all steps easily until it ask me to select the text tool and change it from classic to tfl in the property inspector. I looked and all that drops down is dynamic, static, and input. Where is the TFL and Classic ? I watched adobe learning center but he was using CS5. Can anyone please help?
Hi,
Do you use Flash CS6 to follow the instructions in the classroom book? If yes, then you can find it under text drop down for an AS3 Document as shown below
If you follow the instruction in Flash CC or Flash CC2014 then you will not find this option as this is deprecated.
Thanks!
Mohan -
Text transitions and fonts disappear on iPad
I created a Keynote Presentation with text transitions and sans serif fonts. When i emailed it to iPad, the text transitions and fonts disappeared. It also viewed it as pdf attachment. The Keynote presentation was created on Apple desktop on iOS X 10.8.4 and saved down as Keynote presentation. Why does it destroy the text transitions and fonts when brought into iPad. The iPad does not have Keynote installed.
Why does it destroy the text transitions and fonts when brought into iPad. The iPad does not have Keynote installed.
Keynote for iOS must be installed on the iPad to play presentations.
Purchase it from the App Store: App Store -
I click the text tool and it immediately has a border? how do i eliminate this?
I click the text tool and it opens a new text box with what appears to be a border? How do I eliminate this and get rid of the border on prior text boxes?
Relax. That's a non-printing guide. If you ever want it to print, go to the Graphic Inspector and choose Stroke > Line. You can then adjust the interior space in the Text Inspector > Text > Inset Margin.
Walt -
Now unable to use Touch Up Text Tool
Since 2007, I've used a mac laptop for creating invoices in Quickbooks and saved them as pdfs. They are saved to my 2009 IMac as acrobat (9.4.1. version) pdfs. Over the years I have, on occasion, made minor edits using the edit text tool.
Beginning yesterday, I am no longer able to use the text edit feature (system font not available?!?). See attached. It appears fine.
When I go into properties it say font not available
Can someone offer some guidance? Happy New Year!It is a good practice to embed fonts if Touch Up Text is a tool you often use.
Is the person creating the pdf the person who is editing the created pdf? If not, my guess based on the exclusion list in your post is that the users have different versions of the Arial font installed. There are small, but significant, differences in kerning and line height between different Arial versions. -
CS5 PS & IL Text Tool and InDesign Start-up Crashes
Starting Indesign: crash immediately upon start-up
Photoshop & Illustrator: crash when applying text tool
I am assuming since I had a book I am designing up in InDesign when this bizarre crash thing happened that because it is trying to access that file that it is crashing as soon as it gets to the point where it has to access the fonts for that file. Currently using Palatino as my main font but also have an Asian font for half the book. I wanted to get this book to the printer next week and book layout is a good bit of my income so it is very important that this gets fixed.
I did download a couple of third-party fonts about a week ago but did not use them.
What I have done:
Read through all the forums here
Removed fonts I just downloaded last week
Purchased Font Doctor (for $70 ouch): ran diagnosis, fixed things and cleared cache
Reset preferences
Uninstalled and reinstalled the entire CS5 suite
Followed all the font validation steps from this site and removed offending fonts.
Run Font Doctor again
It feels like there is something saved or cached somewhere that I am not aware of. I noticed that even after the uninstall/reinstall that Illustrator pulled up the book cover that I was designing. Not sure what makes Illustrator remember that I had that open even after I uninstalled the entire program.
I do have an indexing plug-in that I have not unplugged yet. That is my next step in troubleshooting but thought I would get this out here.
Here is the report from the InDesign crash.
Process: Adobe InDesign CS5 [271]
Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 7.0.0.355 (7000)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [115]
Date/Time: 2013-12-14 00:09:36.708 -0800
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63b)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report: 1970 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 8
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 17 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 5
Anonymous UUID: 98BE5344-B82C-4EFA-91BD-F2B2DB517C9E
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [ 16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Application Specific Information:
objc[271]: garbage collection is OFF
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 ??? 0xac345630 _XHNDL_trapback_instruction + 0
1 com.adobe.linguistic.LinguisticManager 0x0a55e301 devtech::ITokenizer::createInstance(std::string const&) + 45585
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88690a kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x990c0e04 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x990bf853 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88583e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b709e78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b709f7b pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92f573a7 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 178
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fb967f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
5 PMRuntime.dylib 0x00014130 MemUtils::GetAvailMem() + 288
6 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fba5e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b705ed9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88602e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b707ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88602e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b707ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b883c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b8831f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fe40ec TS_exception_listener_thread + 90
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b705ed9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
Thread 6:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88583e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b709e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b6ba42c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fe5e62 TSWaitOnCondition + 124
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92f5737d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 136
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fb967f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
6 AdobeACE 0x0005a6f1 0x20000 + 239345
7 AdobeACE 0x0005a0ed 0x20000 + 237805
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x92fba5e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b705ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
Thread 7:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9b88583e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b709e78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b6b182a pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.adobe.amt.services 0x03f83126 C_AMTUISwitchSuppressUpdates + 16768
4 com.adobe.amt.services 0x03f7bdb0 C_EULA_SetState + 2164
5 com.adobe.amt.services 0x03f8318c C_AMTUISwitchSuppressUpdates + 16870
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b705ed9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9b7096de thread_start + 34
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x0a521ea4 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x0000000c
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffd7a8 esp: 0xbfffd620
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0xac345630 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x00000000
Logical CPU: 1
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I did create a new user account (admin level) and InDesign works like a charm.
When I went back to the other account, plug-ins gone, I deleted the prefs and caches, restarted and still everything is crashing as before.
At least I am working on one account and I will contiue to troubleshoot on the other account. And at some point either the new account will crash or the old account will work and I will go from there.
Thanks for the info about Mac remembering info. Always trying to be helpful these Macs.
And thanks for getting at least into a workable space!!! I am supremely grateful! -
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So, I open a new document, choose the Text Tool, it hiighlights the tool in the left tool palette. The I place the Text Tool icon on the page and start to type. The highlighted box back in the tool panel wildly jumps from tool to tool. This is the ed version, part of the CS# Master Suite, I just it just a few times, it worked fine for a business card just six months ago. The other programs in the suite work find. I have followed the procedure to clear out any preference files. What gives???? I tried downloading updates, it won't let me do that. Has Adobe installed Hal onmy machine?
Before you can enter text you need a text frame. With the text tool, click and drag a frame the shize you want, then the toool will allow you to type inside the frame.
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ColinHey Kolinized,
Difference between "add text" tool via the 'tools' pane and "add text" tool via 'fill and sign' pane :-
* Tools>Content Editing>Add Text :- Selecting this option, we can customize the text as well the rectangular box it will create.We can place the box anywhere on the page.
* Fill & Sign>Fill & Sign Tools>Add Text :- This option is slightly easier ,however, customizes text only(Typewriter tool in Acrobat X).This tool is preferred to fill up various kinds
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HELP! Even checked distiller and it's pointing to the correct file.It is also possible that you bought fonts that are not licensed for embedding. In such a case Acrobat will refuse to embed them. Why not just ask the author for a copy of the original file. It is better to edit an original file anyway and not a PDF.
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As a noob, I do have a question regarding the best way to maintain PDF Forms. I have the original Word document and then I create the PDF and manually add all of the form fields. If I have to make a change to the Word document do I then have to start over with adding all of the form fields?
Is there a way to put field tags in my word document that so that when I create the PDF file those fields are automatically created?
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What am I missing?
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I'd love an option in the text panel where you can choose the rendering that you want the text to have when published. It's possible to do this using code and CSS after exporting but I'd like it to be possible within the Adobe Muse application, for both web fonts and built-in fonts e.g. Helvetica, Arial, Georgia etc. From what I know this isn't possible but if someone else knows how then I'd appreciate any help. Otherwise, it's a feature that I'd like to see in a future update.
GeorgeAbhishek,
Thank you for the reply. Wanted to comment on a few things.
I reviewed the other post that you've referenced. Nothing unusual jumped out at me as something that I was not aware of. I'm running an older iMac that is in good working condition. 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 24" screen. I know this issue is fleeting, as I stated earlier typically can be corrected with a restart of the CC Desktop application (that I am always running at startup). I have not been able to determine that shutting down Muse corrects the issue. I would, at this time say it doesn't.
I did open InDesign and see if the fonts in question, Open Sans and Open Sans Condensed, were present and usable. They were. The fonts are shown as being synched in my CC Desktop app window (even if they are not "installed" in Muse). That is expected but it may be a bug in how Muse brings in a font from those that are already synched to your CC account. I don't know enough about how that works to comment.
And just to complicate matters, Muse seems to be working again, the fonts that is. I brought them back in and they are showing up in all locations (which there are actually three - see screen shots).
First is primary text menu dropdown (to right of orange "Text").
Second is if you click orange Text link. Another drop down menu appears.
And lastly, the Text Panel to right of screen.
I also wanted to add this extra bit of information, for what it is worth. When the issue arises and you do not get the sub-menu dropdown showing various styles of the font (italics, bold, etc.), one can use click on the missing font if you had used it previously and it is present in the "previously used font" list.
Cheers!
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