Track Send operation overrides track fader

Anyone else notice that applying a send to a track forces the track to ignore volume on its own envelope?
This happens whether the send is switched pre or post fader. The track is latched to full volume.
Which is useless of course.
Anybody found a work around?
Charlie

Yes, I've noticed something strange with Sends too. Perhaps it is something to do with the conversion of a project in Sountrack Pro 1 to Soundtrack Pro 2 and the different treatment of busses in both.
In the project I'm working on (the soundtrack of a 1.5 hour feature film), I had used sends and output busses to create a surround effect. In Soundtrack Pro 2, this is no longer necessary thanks to surround panners. So I deleted most of the sends.
Somehow, perhaps as a result of installing the update, the Sends I had accidentally left on some tracks in my original project ended up pointing to 'Unconnected' in the 'Effects' panel ... even though the tracks looked as though the outputs were going to 'Submix 1' within the tracks themselves. The tracks concerned were inaudible (ie, levels in own envelope ignored and set to -96).
I only discovered the result you've observed when listening (with some surprise) to the exported Dolby surround output - the Master Mix had been fine. Deleting the Sends from the 'Effects' panel seems to have fixed the problem. The exported soundtrack is now as I had intended it. Could this perhaps also get around the override you have experienced?

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