Track sort order

What does the song order (sometimes) change when I click on the Album column?
Most of the time, my songs show up sorted by track number (I have the track # column displayed).
However, for a few albums this is totally messed up. For example My copy of Hotel california shows:
9 The Last Resort 9 of 9
1 Hotel California 1 of 9
2 New Kid In Town 2 of 9
when sorted album by artist or album by year. But if I sort by Album, the order is
5 Wasted Time [reprise} 5 of 9
6 Victim of Love 6 of 9
1 Hotel California 1 of 9
I can sort them properly by track number if I selected the album in the browser then select track # for the sort. But I want all my albums to show proper track sorting when displayed in flow view.
I'm also wondering what would happn if this was a "gapless" album and the tracks were out of order
Mac OS X (10.4.7)

I don't think you can do this becuase sorting by date added, actually date/time added, overrides everything else.
When you sort by date/time added, the albums group together assuming the tracks were all imported together. Unfortunately, the track order doesn't always seem to come out right although it often does.

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How to change sort order when viewing all tracks by an artist?

When I choose:
Music --> Artists --> <any artist> --> All
The tracks are organized in the order they apear in an alphabetized list of that artist's albums.
For example:
Joe Blow - CD 1
Track 1
Track 2
Track 3
Joe Blow - CD 2
Track 1
Track 2
Track 3
In the "All Songs By Artist" list, the songs appear as:
Track 1
Track 2
Track 3
Track 1
Track 2
Track 3
How can I cange the sort order, so that they are sorted alphabetically, like this?
Track 1
Track 1
Track 2
Track 2
Track 3
Track 3
Thanks,
- Robert
iPod nano

I'm pretty sure you can't do that.

Album sort order PSE11 - is it by design ?

When experimenting with the sort order of albums in PSE11, I was surprised to see that in some albums, changing the sort order from 'oldest' to 'newest' did not produce any effect.
The reason of this probably lies in the menu /preferences/general :
If you have only pictures taken the same day, the above setting will still show 'oldest first' even you choose 'newest first' for album order.
I believe that the most used order is 'album order' and that the 'newest first' is very rare.
I can understand the option to browse 'oldest first within each day' when in 'newest first' in thumbnail view.
However, I wonder if that option makes sense to sort an album ?
Was it by design ?
If it were me...
I would not use that preference for an album,
and...
I would add the option to sort by filename and caption.

Figured it out. I added "Various Artists" in the Album Artist field for every track and it then sorted them all together.

SORT ORDER WITHIN GROUPS

Post Author: Kara
CA Forum: General
Hi,
I am using version 9. I have designed a report based on an access control database. It shows a person's time in and time out, then totals these hours. My report is grouped as follows:
Department
Date/Time
Unique ID
The main data of the report is shown in group footer 3 (Unique ID) and is displayed in numerical order. I need to change the sort order to display by last name, first name but because I have grouped by unique ID I can't seem to be able to do it!
Any help gratefully received,
Kara

Post Author: CoolTowers
CA Forum: General
I use a similar report to track service personnel who also have a unique ID. I have mine set up as follows - maybe this'll help.
I used selection expert to specify the dates I want to see.
Group 1 sorts on the unique ID. Instead of printing the unique ID field in the group header, I have Employee.EmpName. They'll come out in their unique ID sort so the names might be a little out of order. If that's a problem you could put sort option on that field.
Group 2 sorts by the Job ID, with the group header suppressed.
Detail line has location, job id, date, time on, time off, total time in hours and if it's completed.
Group 2 summarizes at date and amount at the job ID level.
Group 1 summarizes at technician.
I get very accurate reports to match against their hand written time cards.
Perhaps if you re-arranged the grouping?

How do you change the album sort order in itunes

It seems that Itunes sorts albums by Artist then Album... How can you change sort order to Album name only.

I've been playing with this and discovered it has to do with your personal ratings (ie stars) for albums and songs - seems iTunes now selects the highest rated album to use for the Artist icon. If you have no ratings it seems (but not always) to select the most recent album/song to use fo rthe display.
I've been able to get iTunes to use specific album artowk by rating both the album and all individual tracks as 5 star. You may need to restart iTunes for the changes to take effect.
But I'd be much happier just telling iTunes which image to use - like we used to be able to do. Yet another step backwards for iTunes 11 (one of many).

Album sort order suddenly gone crazy iTunes

G'day people
For some reason, the last couple of albums I've downloaded from the iTunes store, to my iTunes, displays those albums groups by artist instead of album. Even when I select them an manually change the sort order it makes no difference.
Pre-existing albums already in iTunes are not affected, just newly downloaded. This is also happening with albums I purchase directly from the iPhone and sync back to iTunes on my Mac.
Has anybody else come across this problem and have any suggestions on how I can fix it?
Cheers
Al

Figured it out. I added "Various Artists" in the Album Artist field for every track and it then sorted them all together.

How do you change the sort order of mp3 songs?

I have transfered MP3 files from my PC to itunes & iPod and created my own compilation albums for some of my favourite artists. However I would like to change the order of the songs but I dont know how to do this. I cant see what itunes or the ipod is using to determine the sort order!
thanks
Tom

tinny's advice will work if you gave them an album name and they are actually listed in your library as an album. (Under Get Info, just tell it track 1 of 10, 2 of 10, etc.)
IF you created a playlist for the album, click on the column for the track numbers and then click and drag the songs into the order you want.

Copy multiple items from ical alters sorting order

I use OSX leopard with iCal 3.0.1. I would like to select multiple items and copy-paste them into a text document or spreadsheet. I use iCal to keep track of people's working hours and I need to send the hours to salary admin at the end of each month.
Using the "search" option within iCal, I can select all item concerning the working hours of, let's say, "George". If I copy-paste them into another application (Word, Mail, Numbers, Excel) the sorting order of the items altered. It looks like a rather random order. I want to have it ordered by date opbviously! Does anyone recognize this problem?

Pieter,
would send feedback to apple on this, recreated the behavior on both of my macs for multiple search results, and each time same thing, order is altered...
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ical.html

Bridge Sort Order - Secondary Sort Key

Noticed an anamoly to sort order when rating images.
I have sort order set to Ascending by date. Everything starts off fine - all images in the correct order. When I start labeling the images (using numbers 6, 7, 8, 9) the sort order starts changing.
I have several images with the same exact date/time (e.g., 8/22/08 10:15:13) - my camera shoots 6 frames per second.
I start labeling "three" images with the same date/time - as I do, the image I label goes to the "end" of the "three" that have the same date/time stamp. So, now an image I just labeled is moved in the order and I end up labeling it again - which based on how bridge works actually undoes the label - label does a toggle.
Then I hit the next image and rate it - same thing. appears to be sorting on a secondary key when the date/time are the same for multiple images.
Is there a way to stop the secondary sort key affect. It really screws up the labeling flow.
Image order:
Image01
Image02
Image03
Label Image01 as a "6" - order changes to:
Image02
Image03
Image01
So now image01 is back in the labeling flow...

To further explain this issue:
Original file order:
1
2
3
I look at each file then star File # 1. Instantly, the files rearrange to:
3
2
1
So I back track and start the sequence over (so that I can see files 2 and 3). So I decide I also like file # 2. The order rearranges again into:
1
3
2 or something like that
By now, I'm all mixed up as to what order the event actually happened. The more I star, the more the files rearrange. When I go back to see the rearranged files, they rearrange again. It's all very frustrating when I'm trying to edit a wedding and tell the story. It's imperative that I see all different camera files in order.

Differences in sort order between iTunes and iPod

Can someone explain how the sort order of artists / albums works? It seems that it is different between iTunes and the iPod. In iTunes (7.3.1) I can enter data in the fields for Artist, Album Artist, Sort Artist and Sort Album Artist. When I get the tracks to appear in the order I want in iTunes, it doesn’t seem to transfer across to my iPod. I know there are some differences in how the sort order works in both, but how is it different?
John.
Dell 5150 Windows XP

ou must have an older iPod.
I believe the new sort order only works on the new iPods (Nano and Video)

ITunes U Sort Order Issue

I purchase a lot of audio courses from a company called the Teaching Company. I buy and download them as MP3's and they've worked great on all my iPods (I have a nano, a classic, and a touch 64GB). I previously kept all of the course lectures in my Audiobook section to keep them separate from my music and podcasts and other media. This was fine until I decided to purchase an Audible account and began to build up a large library of audiobooks as well. When I got my brand new 64GB iPod Touch and the new iTunes, I saw that iTunes U was now a separate entity within my library. So, for organizational purposes and to allow me to better fine-tuning of my sync preferences (I much more media than could ever fit on any of my iPods at one time), I moved all my educational and lecture media out of my Audiobooks area and into iTunes U by editing the tags through "get info".
This has worked just fine except for one mysterious problem.
When I view any of these audio courses (each course is an album) in iTunes, they display fine in normal sort order by track number. But when I go to listen to them on my iPod, the sort order is all jumbled up and all the tracks are out of order. So I cannot listen to the classes from one lecture to another, at the end of each lecture I must exit back to the album and FIND the next lecture. They appear to be sorted in no obvious order (not alphabetical, not by name, not by track number). Again, they are set to sort by track number in iTunes and they display (and play) perfectly straight through in iTunes. But on my iPod, the sort order is completely messed up.
So, what's going on? Why? And how can I fix it??

Vague789 wrote:
Set your track numbers correctly (by right clicking, clinking 'Get Info' and clicking on the info tab), and make sure you also set the totals (e.g. 12 of 18 - the "of 18" is what I mean by the totals). This sorted it out on my iPod.
This worked for me for my Teaching Company files. They were all jumbled previously because they took the track numbers from the default import from the internet. Once I changed it, no problem.
It would be better if Apple allowed just a dragging, or if there was a quick tool, but at least this works.
I had previously been using "Join Together" for stuff like this. I think I like this method better, though. I can still keep the individual lecture files on a playlist, but not have to worry about all the separate titles in a general listing.

Sort Order in Smart Playlist iTunes 9.1

Now that I've upgraded to 9.1 I am finding that the sort order is gone wrong in Smart Playlists. What is happening is that artists are being sorted by their first name rather than by their last name regardless of what I have entered in Sort Artist field.
However, the sort works as it should in the Library list.
So, using Paul McCartney as an example; I have in the Artist field *Paul McCartney*, in the Sort Artist field I have *McCartney Paul*. When I view my music in the Library list he is sorted under M. But when I view my music in a Smart Playlist he is sorted under P.

First give the list a "kick" by sorting by some other fields, closing and reopening iTunes, and then sorting again by Artist.
Also look at the Sorting tab and make sure the tracks do not have data that could be interfering with the Sort Artist, namely Sort Album Artist.
If neither of those helps, you have probably discovered a bug in 9.1, which you can report here:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

"Date Added" sort order problem when importing folders

I sort by "Date Added" to view my iTunes library, and use the middle "view" button to view tracks grouped as albums with artwork. This works mighty well except when I'm importing folders containing the files in an album, such as those I get from eMusic--the tracks are displayed out of order when I do this. The only solution I've found so far is to import one track at a time. Any ideas how I can get those tracks in there in the right order when importing a folder? Any scripts hanging around that will do it right? Thanks to all....

What sort order do you have selecting in the sort drop-down? There is no "correct" sort order. You can sort on any metadata you can show in the Browser. The sort drop-down is located in the top border of the Browser, near the left corner. Every container in Aperture retains the sort order it last had. When you manually move an Image in the Browser, the sort order is changed to "Manual".

Wrong sort order

iPhoto recently began reordering photos on its own. This started about the time I moved my library of photos from my old G5 to my new MacPro Quad Core. I have View/Sort Photos/ set to Manually for one of my albums and I've been adding photos to the end, the bottom of the album in thumbnail view once they've been imported. The next time I open iPhoto those and others added recently are at the top of the page, at the beginning of the thumbnails.
I'm thinking that whatever file it is that keeps track of the sort order may be corrupted. Does that sound right? Any ideas on how to fix this problem?
Thanks.

Thank you.
Actually there is no such exact option. There is a Repair the Database option, and one marked Rebuild the Database from the automatic backup. they are two separate options. Since I wasn't sure of the health of the automatic backup I selected Repair the Database. I've quite and restarted iPhoto a couple times. The first time I had to reorder one of the recently added photos. After that things seemed OK. I'll consider the problem solved, at least for now.
Thank you so much!

Looking for a way to change sort order for albums

I know how to set the sort order for each individual song (Sort tab on song info), but is there a way to set sort order for multiple tracks?

Please help!

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