Track Text Edits Change Bars

FrameMaker 8.0 -- Change bars are showing up for adds but not for deletes. How do I get the bars to show up for both?

Martha, I haven't seen this particular problem in either 8 or 9...
My first thought was that some of the changes were included in other Conditional Text settings so that some of the changes weren't fully applied because some text was hidden by another condition... So you may want to check to see if there's any overlap. But that's just a guess.
And one thing you can try is saving one of the files out to MIF to clean up any stray characters that may have crept in.
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Can you change the format of text in Track Text Edits?

My client wants changed text to be blue double-underlined. I can apply a character tag to changed text to create the double underline, but it will not change the color to blue from the default forest green.
Is there a way to customize the format of the Track Text Edits text? Please help as soon as you can because I'm starting this project today using conditional text for the deletions and character formatting for the changes and insertions in this ~300 page book.
Thanks,
Karen

Karen,
The track edit changes are just special formats of Condition Catalog items that are unfortunately hardwired. You can save them as MIF, edit the color, e.g.
<Condition
<CTag `FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_ADDED'>
<CState CShown>
<CStyle CUnderline>
<CSeparation 10>
<CColor `Forest Green'> <-- change to Blue ro whatever is defined in the Color catalog.
<CAndCondition >
> # end of Condition
<Condition
<CTag `FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED'>
<CState CShown>
<CStyle CStrike>
<CSeparation 2>
<CColor `Red'>
<CAndCondition >
> # end of Condition
HOWEVER, FM dutifully changes these back when you re-open the MIF fle. No can do manually.
IIRC, I believe that Rick Quatro has written a Framescript that does some magic here. You might want to contact him - see:
http://www.frameexpert.com

Copy and paste ignores track text edit preview settings?

Hi all,
Working with FM9 and another editor that requires me to copy and paste from FM9 into the other.
Enable and use tracking text edits in FM9.
Preview Final to hide the edits.
Copy and paste a paragraph that contains edits.
When I paste into the target text editor, the "deleted" text is also displayed.
Any way to prevent text hidden with a condition tag (which is how the tracking changes are marked) from being copied?
-g

I'm pretty sure the answer is no, not in FM itself. The only way would be to create a finalized FM doc with the changes accepted prior to copy / paste.
It would be possible with a Framescript, though -- something like this: the user copies the text, hits a specified function key, the script pastes the text onto a special reference page, deletes the "deleted" text, recopies the text and then it beeps so that the user can then paste into the target editor.
More info about Framescript at http://www.framescript.com and on the user group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/framescript-users/

"Show Next" in Track Text Edits Skips Over Edited Text

We use track text edits in our documents (using FM 10). However, we have noticed that when looking for the edits (i.e. by clicking "show next"), it skips over some edited content. Does anyone know why or how to fix this? Thanks!

Arnis -
I just updated to 10.0.2, and it didn't correct the problem.
I'm not sure whether we are using other conditional text indicators. Can you give me examples of what that might mean?
We don't typically perform searches like we do with the track text edits, but I just tested it, and it appeared to catch all of the paragraph tag and character formats I searched for.
Error7103 -
Yes, I believe everything is in the same flow. The first time we noticed the issue was in a table, so we thought that must be the issue. However, it happened again within a chapter that only contains text, so it must be something else altogether. I looked at the chapter again, and could pinpoint the place in the chapter where it would find the tracked text. It appears that there was a footnote that had a red section symbol (i.e. text symbol) at the end of it. I had to entirely replace the footnote so that the section symbol was black. Now it finds all of the tracked text with no problem. So, apparently that section symbol stopped the search function for some reason. It still isn't working properly in the document with the tables, but my guess is that it has something to do with the fact that it is searching tables and not just straight text.
Do either of you know how to turn those section symbols black? Right now, they appear in black, green (i.e. added via track text edits), and red (i.e. deleted via track text edits). We can't seem to accept (or reject) the change associated with the section symbol.
I apologize for the delay in responding - I was getting an error when trying to reply yesterday. Thank you both for responding and helping me troubleshoot!

Track Text Edits for entire Book

In FMv8, is there a way to turn on/off 'Track Text Edits' for all documents in a book (outside of opening all documents and turing it on/off)?

Thanks for the suggestions. Since I do have FrameScript (5.1), I'm in luck. The following code works for me, maybe someone else can use it. Now about that forthcoming release ... :-)
Set PlatformEncodingMode = True;
New ScriptVar NewVar(eDocUtils) File('DocUtils');
Set gvBook = ActiveBook;
If gvBook = 0
LeaveSub;
EndIf
New SubVar NewVar(gvCallBackSub) SubName('ProcessDoc');
Set gvCount = eDocUtils.ForAllDocsInBook{gvBook,gvCallBackSub};
MsgBox Mode(Note) 'All changes have been accepted in the book.'
Sub ProcessDoc using pvDocVar
Execute FC KbdAcceptAllChange;
Execute FC KBDTRACKCHANGE;
Save Document;
Close Document;
EndSub

A script that can be used to track text content changes in indesign?

Is there a possibility a script that can be used to track text content changes in indesign. My Indesign software's version is CS3. As you can see below, I have deleted some texts and added some. I did it in another software.
I have been searched for a long time. Because of my poor English, I still can't come up with any Object Model related to the script yet.
Here is some idea of mine:
Use the script tracking my revising texts. When I add some new texts, the texts will be underlined. When I delete some texts, the position of the first character of the removed text will be added a small red triangle or something.
Thanks in advance.

Hidden dragon, what does that mean?
I can't comprehend fully what you said.
Is IDML short for Indeisgn Markup Language?
I think you are telling me that I can open the Indeisgn document by using the software InCopy. Then I have change some contents. InCopy will help me tracking the revision.
getZinger. Do I get your point?

Track Text Edit tags get trounced when applying additional tag?

Hi all,
Just upgraded to FM9.
I opened a doc that was originall created in FM8.
I had (and still have) enabled tracking of text edits, and can see the FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_ADDED and FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED tags when I highlight text.
However, when I apply an additional tag to text that has been changed, the new tag is applied, but both of those are lost. So initially, I have this:
This is my originalnew text.
After I apply a conditional tag to the entire line, I get this:
This is my originalnew text.
There is no trace of the FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_ADDED and FM8_TRACK_CHANGES_DELETED tags.
I've verified that working with user-defined tags works as expected (additive), so is there a known issue with the built-in tags getting trounced?
-Greg

Yes, I thought the tag names would match the version too, that was a surprise.
Hang on a minute, I should have tested FM8 before I wrote this. Yes, it does seem to be a bug with FM9 -- in FM8 it works as you had indicated: applying a different condition is an "additive" step and it doesn't blow away the track changes. Mea culpa, Greg.
Not to split hairs, but I'm not quite sure I could agree that this is a bug,
[continued ...]
I think it's more that the track changes is working "as designed" -- the original was created with limited functionality and it isn't integrated into standard FM conditional text practices as well as it should have been when it was "rolled into" FM. I keep thinking of the medical phrase "first, do no harm"...
If you haven't yet done so, you might consider posting to the Framers list in case anybody in the community happens to have come up with some workarounds:
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers
Sheila

Red Text with Change Bar, Frame 9

I've been given Frame 9 files that have text copied and pasted from Word. The text is in red, no underlines or strikethroughs, and the change bar runs down the outside column.
I've tried to accept track changes, and the text stays red. I can remove the change bar, but haven't figured out what to do to change the text to black.
I'm assuming this isn't a track change issue, any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Peter

There are many complications with dealing with text copied in from other apps, but as a first step:
Make a backup of the files (critical)
put your cursor in one of the paragraphs. Double click in the paragraph to select all the text in the paragraph.
Select Format > Characters > Default Paragraph Format
That should remove all of the formatting overrides in the paragraph.
If that works, and you want to do this to the whole document, put your cursor in a paragraph and do Ctl+a to select all the text, then do the same Format > Characters process.
btw, if the Word document did in fact have change tracking turned on and did have changes that hadn't been Accepted in Word, then you might find that the text pasted into FM sometimes has both the old and the changed text splatted together in the FM document. It's always, always better to have all the changes Accepted in Word first.
Sheila

Is there any way to track text edits made in pdf file

when making text edits to a pdf document, i am interested to know ... is there any way to track these within acrobat.
i.e. text added/deleted to the pdf and not commented.
i am using acrobat version 11.0.09.
many thanks in advance.

Not really. The best you can do is use the Compare Documents function to
identify such changes after the fact.

FM 8 -- Track Text Edits - Paragraph Marks

FrameMaker 8.0 - After accepting all changes in a table, the change bars disappeared as expected but the paragraph marks remained green. How do I correct this?

Hi Karen,
I notice one thing that there is a "red hyphen" between "the end" in the first sentence which means there was a Deletion of a Space done, with TTE enabled.
What I believe is happening, that deletions are getting accepted over here, in this specific FrameMaker document, hence you are missing a space between them.
I would like you to do a test on the same document, so that we may verify if this is something specific to the document or not?
1) Delete a compelete word/phrase from the same sentence, repeat the same procedure that removed the space and notice this time, is the word too getting ommited along with that space?
2) Disable the TTE insert two spaces between 'the' and 'before', the Enable the TTE and write the same way as you had earlier, but begin adding text like as follows--
I placed my cursor at the ONLY_NEW_WORD_INSERTED before where I started adding text.
I wish, I could illustrate these steps in a less confusing manner, But please try them and let me know if it clears few things for you?
Good Luck, Karen.
Thanks,
Anjaneai

b Track Text Item Change /b

Hi all,
I'm using Forms 6i.
I want to track the changes in a Text item.
I want to uncheck one check box, when the user changing the value of the particular text item. There are two ways to change the value of the text item.
1. The user can directly enter the value.
2. They can select the value from LOV associated with that text item. Sometimes they will not select the value from LOV simply cancel it also.
Which trigger shall i use.
I cannot use Validation & navigational triggers. since the cursor may or may not going to that particular text item and also the navigational(Both Mouse & keyboard) property is no.
Thanks in Advance.
Aravind

Hello,
I cannot use Validation & navigational triggers. since the cursor may or may not going to that particular text item and also the navigational(Both Mouse & keyboard) property is no.
So, how the end user can change the value if the focus is not in this particular item ?
Francois

When text editing, the tracker has another person's name instead of mine. How to I correct that?

When text editing, the tracker has different person's name instead of mine. How to I correct that? I'm using iMac Intel Core i3, 3.06 GHz, 4G 1333 MH2 DDR3

Does this problem happen EVERY time you send an email?
Do you see the wrong FROM entry before you hit the send button? Or does the recipient report seeing another name other than yours?
Do you recognize the incorrect name being shown? Is it something you or someone else using your machine have ever used? Is it a name you have never heard of before?
Go to your SENT folder in Apple Mail. What do you see when you open one of your SENT emails, in the FROM slot? Is the name correct or incorrect?
Also, I don't understand your comment "I noticed it when I try to send a link via e-mail to another person." are you saying that when you paste a link into an email to someone that your name in the FROM field changes? Where are you putting the link, in what place in the email?

Change background color during text edit mode

THis is a wacky problem...
I have a presentation template. The slide master has white copy in the title and black copy in the body/bulleted list.
When I try to use the template and edit the title copy, the background color for editing that line is white, just like the text, so I can't see what I'm typing. I can't figure out how to change the background color during text edit mode so that I can actually see what I'm typing. Is there a way to make this transparent?
For some reason, the body copy edit works fine: black text edited in either a white or transparent background color.
help!

THis is a wacky problem...
I have a presentation template. The slide master has white copy in the title and black copy in the body/bulleted list.
When I try to use the template and edit the title copy, the background color for editing that line is white, just like the text, so I can't see what I'm typing. I can't figure out how to change the background color during text edit mode so that I can actually see what I'm typing. Is there a way to make this transparent?
For some reason, the body copy edit works fine: black text edited in either a white or transparent background color.
help!

Text editing window expands instead of creating vertical scroll bar

In the last few days, I have noticed that when I try to edit or post to Wordpress.com the vertical scroll bar no longer appears on the text editing box. Instead the box just gets progressively larger which makes it very difficult to get to other items on the WordPress editing screen, such as tags and categories. This problem seems to have arisen during the v31.0 auto-upgrade. Is anybody else having this issue and what steps can I take to solve it? (FYI, I tried modifying the setting described in another response about a similar issue using the about:config screen, with no success.)

I don't know whether your dashboard has the "Visual" and "Text" buttons, but I believe the Visual uses CKEditor or another WYSIWYG editor and the Text editor might be a simpler design. Are both affected?
I searched around to see whether I could find Wordpress.com support threads or other stories about it and I can't. So I'll fall back on some general suggestions:
When you have a problem with one particular site, a good "first thing to try" is clearing your Firefox cache and deleting your saved cookies for the site.
(1) Bypass Firefox's Cache
Use Ctrl+Shift+r to reload the page fresh from the server.
Alternately, you also can clear Firefox's cache completely using:
"3-bar" menu button (or Tools menu) > Options > Advanced
On the Network mini-tab > Cached Web Content : "Clear Now"
If you have a large hard drive, this might take a few minutes.
(2) Remove the site's cookies (save any pending work first). While viewing a page on the site:
* right-click and choose View Page Info > Security > "View Cookies"
* (menu bar) Tools menu) > Page Info > Security > "View Cookies"
In the dialog that opens, you can remove WordPress.com cookies without affecting other sites.
Then try reloading the page. Does that help?
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You can restart Firefox in Safe Mode using either
* "3-bar" menu button > "?" button > Restart with Add-ons Disabled
* (menu bar) Help menu > Restart with Add-ons Disabled
Note: Flash and other plugins still run
After Firefox closes, a small dialog should appear: click "Start in Safe Mode" (''not'' Reset)
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Using PSE11 on MacPro, using a commercial digital template text editing stuck in upper case, cannot change to LC in any font; tried deleting layer

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