Tracking of Changes in Material Determination type or Material Substitution

Hi Gurus,
Can anybody suggest how to keep track of the changes made in VB11/VB12/VB13 which is for Material Determination type Maintenance?
Is there any TCODE or tables for tracking the above changes??
Thanks in advance
VIJAYB.

material determination is based on custom condition tables, that are created like one creates tables for pricing or message determination.
Because of this, SAP cannot know that it has to track changes.
You have to activate change records yourself.
Go SE11, enter the table name of your substitution, then click the button for technical settings. in the lower part of the screen you will see a box that need to be flagged if you want log changes.

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Is there any spesific/standard material master type for material determination on SD ?
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Is there any standard material type for 'Material Entered'
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We have a manual material determination procedure in sales, when we create sales order with reference to contract system show a list of materials than we choose material from the display list and save the order.
recently we created new material code which needs to be added in material determination list but i m not getting the tcode where this new material code will be added with the existing one.
can u please advise how to add new material code in existing manual material determination list so tht we can sale our new material.
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SD-Material determination and the ATP

Hi,
IssueNo:1
we are working with the material determination and the ATP .
1. we have created a reason for substiution in th ovrq as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome             B
Category
2.we have the material determination as below
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
In this we have the INT1_FRAM material marked for the mrp.
3.The above are the config and the master data ,
4.In the above setting the material is replaced as subitem and all the ATP is done correctly as per the checking group and the scope ofthe check
5.When we change the setting for the reason for substiution as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome
Category
Note: The change here is the Outcome is changed to blank
6.Now when we do the above configuration change ,the material is getting replaced and the avaialability check is happening but if there is no sufficient stock it is not going to the next material.
It stops at the first alternate itself.
example for this is :
****Materialdetermination master data:
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
Stock situation :
INT1_AUTOLITE :5000
INT1_FRAM     :5000
When i create a sales order for 7500 for INT1_AUTOLITE it is only confirming 5000 fro the item 10 as material INT1_AUTOLITE it is not going to the next material
This is the core issue we are facing currently.
IssueNo2:
we also find a strange thing.
we have a availabiity check indicator in the V_TVSU ( config table)
SUVFP-Substitution dependent on the availability check
This is not available as a entry option.
why is this so ???
can anyone give a good response.
Reg
satheeshkumar

Hi,
IssueNo:1
we are working with the material determination and the ATP .
1. we have created a reason for substiution in th ovrq as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome             B
Category
2.we have the material determination as below
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
In this we have the INT1_FRAM material marked for the mrp.
3.The above are the config and the master data ,
4.In the above setting the material is replaced as subitem and all the ATP is done correctly as per the checking group and the scope ofthe check
5.When we change the setting for the reason for substiution as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome
Category
Note: The change here is the Outcome is changed to blank
6.Now when we do the above configuration change ,the material is getting replaced and the avaialability check is happening but if there is no sufficient stock it is not going to the next material.
It stops at the first alternate itself.
example for this is :
****Materialdetermination master data:
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
Stock situation :
INT1_AUTOLITE :5000
INT1_FRAM     :5000
When i create a sales order for 7500 for INT1_AUTOLITE it is only confirming 5000 fro the item 10 as material INT1_AUTOLITE it is not going to the next material
This is the core issue we are facing currently.
IssueNo2:
we also find a strange thing.
we have a availabiity check indicator in the V_TVSU ( config table)
SUVFP-Substitution dependent on the availability check
This is not available as a entry option.
why is this so ???
can anyone give a good response.
Reg
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Hi Shah,
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A method to determine the material to be used in the sales order. Material determination uses the condition technique to swap one material for another when certain conditions apply. It is triggered by the material entered in the line item of the sales order.
Maintain prerequisites for materialMaterial DeterminationSD- IMG determination Maintain field catalog, create condition table, Maintain access sequences, define condition types, and maintain material determination procedure. Lastly create your condition records with valid dates and substitution reasons.
- Creating a condition record: Logistics, SD, Master data, Products, Material determination, Create [VB11].
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Maintaining the records for Material Determination: -
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Logistics
Sales and Distribution
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Products
Material Determination
VB11 Create.
Enter the determination type [A001] (Material Entered).
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This concept is based on condition technique.
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Maintain prerequisites for material determination.
Create condition tables [OV16]
Maintain access sequences
Define condition types
Maintain procedure
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Assign procedures to sales document types [OV14]
Defining the reason for substitution: -
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Define substitution reasons [OVRQ]
Go to new entries and define
Substitution reason: - Specify the substitution reason [0001]
Description: - Advertising campaign
Entry: - If we check this field the system prints the name or number of the original material on the corresponding output.
Warning: - If we check this field the system displays a warning message before substituting the material.
Strategy: - Controls whether the product selection should occur automatically in the background or whether the alternative materials should be offered for a selection in dialog box.
Out come: - Controls whether the out come of product selection should replace the original entry or whether it should be recorded as a sub item of the original entry.
Please Reward If Really Helpful,
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Account ,partner,material determination explain?

hi
can u explain me in brief what is mean by account determination,partner determination and material determination ???/

Hi Candhrakanth,
MATERIAL DETERMINATION:-
A method to determine the material to be used in the sales order. Material determination uses the condition technique to swap one material for another when certain conditions apply. It is triggered by the material entered in the line item of the sales order.
Maintain prerequisites for materialMaterial DeterminationSD- IMG determination Maintain field catalog, create condition table, Maintain access sequences, define condition types, and maintain material determination procedure. Lastly create your condition records with valid dates and substitution reasons.
- Creating a condition record: Logistics, SD, Master data, Products, Material determination, Create [VB11].
Material Determination: - Substituting one product with other product is called material determination.
Maintaining the records for Material Determination: -
SPRO
Logistics
Sales and Distribution
Master Data
Products
Material Determination
VB11 Create.
Enter the determination type [A001] (Material Entered).
Material Entered: - Here enter the original material which has to be substituted.
Material: - Enter the material with which we want to substitute the main material.
Reason for Substitution: - specifies the reason why the system automatically carried out material substitution.
To enter multiple materials as substitution select the icon alternative materials.
This concept is based on condition technique.
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Maintain prerequisites for material determination.
Create condition tables [OV16]
Maintain access sequences
Define condition types
Maintain procedure
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Assign procedures to sales document types [OV14]
Defining the reason for substitution: -
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Define substitution reasons [OVRQ]
Go to new entries and define
Substitution reason: - Specify the substitution reason [0001]
Description: - Advertising campaign
Entry: - If we check this field the system prints the name or number of the original material on the corresponding output.
Warning: - If we check this field the system displays a warning message before substituting the material.
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Out come: - Controls whether the out come of product selection should replace the original entry or whether it should be recorded as a sub item of the original entry.
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How to Differentiate between Parent & child item of material determination

Hi Experts
I have a list of material & the Business requirement is to found that whether a material is a Parent material , Child material or Both ( a parent to other children and a child to another parent).
I tried using table KONDD & KONDDP but I was not able to differeniate between Parent & Child item.
I even cant use item category to diferentaite the two as by item categairy i can only find that it is a Prent material but cant find whether this material is a Child material or not.
Is there any table in which i can enter the Parent material & the output would be child material or any other table which contain both parent & child material.
Note : In Material determination ( VB11) , the material which is entered is Parent material & the material with which it would be replaced is Child material.
Kindly Guide.
Thanks in Advance

Hi
The wording of Parent and Child sounds like using a BOM material. In material determination...these two items can be called as Material entered and material determined or Main Item and Sub Item.
In the sales order overview screen...at line item level check the field 'HLvItem' (Higher Level Item). It will show the POSNR of the main item to which this item is linked. Since this can also happen in the case of free goods and BOM...you have make another check for these items with the item category.
If the substitue material is not determined as a sub item... you can check the material number in the field 'Material Entered' in the sales tab of the item and compare the material number with that exists in the VBAP-MATNR. If both are different, then this material can be considered as a determined material.
Thanks,
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BOM+Free Goods+Material Determination

Hi,
My company want to give free goods in Bill of materials.But system is not accepting that.How can we do that?
I am getting the same problem with Material Determination and Free Goods combination.When i configure material determination for a material which is having free goods system is not showing...any idea?
Points for sure.

Hi,
The constraints for free goods in SAP are as follow
Constraints
Free goods is currently only supported on a 1:1 basis. This means that an order item can only be
the source of one free goods item. This means that agreements involving relationships such as
'Buy material 1 and get material 2 and material 3 free of charge' or 'Order material 1 and material
2 together and get material 3 free of charge' are not supported.
Free goods is not currently supported in combination with material structures (e.g. product
selection, bills of material, variants with BOM explosion).
Free goods is currently only supported for sales orders with document category C (not for
quotations, for example).
Free goods is not currently supported for deliveries without reference to a sales order.
Free goods is not currently supported for make-to-order production, third-party order processing
and scheduling agreements.
Hope it helps you.
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Material determination with Product selection

Hi SAP Gurus
We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected]
Thanks
SDSAPCON

>
SAPCON SD wrote:
> Hi SAP Gurus
>
> We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
>
> I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
>
> Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected].
>
> Thanks
>
> SDSAPCON
In the substitution reasons ...mark the OUTCOME as blank for this particular 0006. I am not sure for ATP
rgds
Sai
Edited by: Sai on Mar 27, 2008 10:00 PM

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