Training Structural Authorization vs MSS/ESS

Good day all.
We're maintaining structural authorization for Training module. The requirement is to be able local company maintain theirown training and regional training can maintain the regional training.
In OOSP we're maintaining object type L only. For the same object id we're using two evaluation path SCMCATAL and L-D-E-§.
Unfortunately when we assign certain SAP id (manager) to this structural authorization, this manager can't see his/her subordinate. It saying that "No authorization for reading data". When I remove this user from structural authorization this manager is able to see his/her subordinate.
Is there any others requirements from HR or additional (BASIS) authorization to rectify this issue?

Hi
We are maintaining structural authorization in E-learning. Thre is two departement 1 and 2 . Now for few courses are for dep-1 and few are only for dep-2 .
This structural authorization is already maintained in ESS now we migrated all the data in e-leraning now my problem is how i can use this structural authorization for E-learning as objects are same just Transaction codes and one Appraisal object is differnt.
Thanks
Waiting for reply.
Nutan

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