Transfer PAL to NTSC and extract audio: Best Place in L.A.

I have a little record company. I'm going to release a video of a concert as a DVD and will ALSO release a CD of the same concert. I want to extract audio from the PAL (for the CD)at best quality for remastering.
I also want to Convert the PAL to NTSC so I can edit it in FCP. (I assume that's the best quality Video I can get under the circumstances. Is that so? Is there a better way? It's music, so it HAS TO BE in sync)
I will do the editing for the DVD master, and my mastering guy will deal with the music for the CD.
1. Can anyone suggest the best place in L.A. to do these transfers?
2. Can anyone suggest the best place in L.A. to author and replicate the DVDs?

Laurie,
I've put the word out to the LA contingent of FCP elitists about your question. Hopefully one of them will respond.
If you decide to go through a software based conversion, there is a thread over in the FCP forum that will be useful to read.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3650277?tstart=0
Good luck,
x

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Real World Experience - TIPS - Pal to NTSC and Authoring DVDS on both

I have just completed a DVD project.
It was shot and edited in Pal and then authored to both Pal and NTSC DVDS ( Pal for Europe - NTSC for Japan and USA)
Standards Conversion:
I used both compressor and graham Nattress' excellent G (for Graham?) Standards converter.
Compressor was a fast work around for a quick pal to ntsc conversion at ok quality. Since my footage is very demanding (lots of handheld heli shots, water housing footage)i imagine it was giving the converters a real work out).
The Nattress G converter was much slower but the results were as close to perfection as i would imagine a software solution can get. Obviously the extra render time was working extra hard to get the conversion looking good.
For anyone going down this path - For your master you just have to use the natress converter- thanks Graham - best $100 i have spent this year.
MPG2 encoding
i did this using compressor and it worked well.
Here is the rub - i THOUGHT compressor was not doing my MPG 2 conversion at acceptable quality - it was actually the lack of quality out of compressors fast and easy solution for pal - ntsc that was giving me banding on moving objects and color issues.
I suspect this may be where some people think they are coming unstuck with compressor. (go back and check you ntsc conversion relative to your original pal quality)
I hope this saves anyone else in my situation some time.
In summary - when working in PAL (ie you are shooting and editing in Europe or Australia)Your work flow should be - shoot and edit in Pal ,convert with Natress, encode with compressor (compressor 2.1 - i use 7.7 mbs max, 6.0 mbs av - 2 pass variable - use ac3 for audio) - which has actually been working well for me (despite various threads about issues with compressor)
Hope this come up nicely for anyone doing a search. Thank you to everyone who has helped me on the way and good night!

Rory85 wrote:
Ok cool, thanks Stan.
Re-doing the Encore stuff, as much as that would/will suck, it's not my worst fear.. the thing that scares me the most is the thought of re-doing all of the Premiere work again.. If an NTSC Encore project can convert a PAL Premiere working file to a NTSC DVD, I can live with re-working the Encore stuff.. And yea, Dynamic link takes care of all of the chapter markers, so that wouldn't be a big issue - it'd just be a matter of re-building the menus..
But yea, if anyone has a definite yes or no answer on whether or not Encore can turn a PAL Premiere project into a NTSC DVD, I'd love to know.. The person I'm doing the work for doesn't want to spend thousands of dollars getting PAL dvds printed etc unless we absolutely know it's going to be a complete re-start to get it to NTSC..
Thanks again,
Rory
Hi Rory.
It's not possible in Encore or Premiere.
The conversion process is a complex one & consists of changing the actual resolution from 720x576 to 720x480, which gives a very different shaped pixel as well.
Then it also changes the frame rate of the footage from 25 to 29.97.
The easiest way to do this with Adobe tools is to use Atter Effects, making sure that the AE render is locked to the duration of the composition - this is critical, or you will end up with footage at the wrong speed. All menus will need to be rebuilt.
Sorry I cannot give you better news.
As a general rule of thumb, if in doiubt - create & author in NTSC as there are almost no PAL setups that cannot output either pure NTSC or PAL-60, yet there are very few that can go the other way.....

How to split video and extracted audio clip at same time?

I imported 10 min of DV from my Sony HC96 camcorder to iMovie 6.
I selected a video clip and split it using cmd-T but the extracted audio clip below it did not split. How can I split both the video and underlying audio clip so I can drag the edge of the new video clip for editing by direct trimming and keep the audio dialogue in sync. I have already gotten the clip volume levels right in the extracted audio.
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ralph
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I have a couple of .avi files, some are in PAL and others in NTSC, I wanna make a DVD in NTSC mode, How can I convert the files?

Hi
This is not easy and You need other programs to do this.
.avi.
You can use MPEG-Streamclip to convert the AVI files so that QuickTime can play them
and to streamingDV for iMovie.
This may work - I had great problems to get .avi into anything usably.
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A. Commersial DVDs - No Not at all - Not even legal to discuss.
B. Home made DVDs (without copy protection)
NTSC ---> PAL.
• Most often not necessary - Most stand alone PAL-DVD players playback NTSC
(if TV is old in BL/W)
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• If played on Mac - not necessary AT ALL
• If on NTSC-DVD-player - CONVERSION IS NEEDED - nearly no Stand alone NTSC-DVD-players
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• Verbatim DVD-R
• Set down burn speed in iDVD to x1 or x4 recommended by many
• Secure a minimum of 25Gb free space on internal boot hard disk before burning (IMPORTANT)
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Is there any API in java for creating DVD video from Normal TV and extract audio from video file and convert MP3 to WMA file. What about java Media Framework and Java 3D API?
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NTSC and PAL are television (chroma) standards. TV sets strongly rely on their power source for image synchronization. US countries use 110V/60Hz, while the rest of the world rely on (the more efficient) 220V/50Hz (multiplying by 2 the voltage divides by 4 the power rating of appliances). So, frame rate is 60Hz on one side and 50Hz on the other. PAL develops 100 more horizontal lines than NTSC (TV sets). Because of "interlacing" (to artificially reduce screen flicker), video source frame rate is 25 or 30.
In the end, converting PAL to NTSC and vice-versa is a very tough job: missing frames are "missing" and must be extrapolated. Extraneous frames needs to be dropped. Same for missing/extra lines. This is professionally done by using complex equipment capable of doing these interpolations equally balanced over the timeframes.
Because of the size of the US market, it is almost impossible to find multi-standard compatible equipments (TV sets, DVD players) in the US. While in Europe the huge majority of equipment are tri-standard (NTSC, PAL, SECAM), - for the video sources such as DVD players and various tape based recorders - and the TV sets also support the various flavors of these standards for the wireless transmission (sub-carriers, polarization, etc).
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I'm with Michael on this.
I use Graeme Natress's Standards Converter for this within FCP if it is a small project and use Compressor feeding Qmaster clusters for something more lengthy.
Clusters make a huge difference in the performance of Compressor. I have Clusters set up on machines running 10.6.8, 10.7.5 and 10.8.3 so I know it works on the range of current OSX versions.
Digital Rebellion has a good write-up on how to set up Qmaster.
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x

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I tried using compressor to do a PAL to NTSC conversion on a completed project, but found it pixelated all still photos and graphics in my project. It was also going to take 18 hrs (macbook pro 2.4ghz)
So I have tried using JES deinterlacer.
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Test2 - reinterlace chroma option, no real difference to default settings, still minimal artifacts every fourth frame in certain shots
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Unfortunately my project (75 mins long) still had artifact pulsing which appeared to get worst as the dvd got closer the end of the program. I can't work out why certain shots appear fine while others have this pulsing effect.
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http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/SVCDon_a_Macintosh.html#PALNTSC
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Under iDVD preferences and the Projects tab it asks a few things that I know nothing about:
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Jeff asked: ) Video Mode: NTSC or PAL. What are those and when would I use one over the other?. Jeff, the are video standards used in different places around the world. If all your DVDs are intended for use in the US, just select NTSC and don't worry about it.
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