Transfer price without Material Ledger

Dear Expert,
I am not using material ledger.but how i will handle transper price without material ledger
I am going to do stock transfer of FG stock from Plant A to plant B.
Standard price in plant A is 10 rs and Plant B 15rs
FG stock in Recieving plant B will debit !5rs and sending plant credit with 10rs and difference of 5rs will store in Price difference a/c.
M i correct with above entry?
In that case how to handle transfer price?.
regards
RR

Hi Raman
No Trf Price possible w.o ML... No work around possible
What are you trying to achieve... Can you detail it.... For sure, you cant maintain multiple valuations for same mat w/o ML
br, Ajay M

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I was confused at first. The multi-currency capabilities are suited to keep the historic curency information and make material valuation in parallel currencies independent from the current exchange rate
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All req. configuration i have defined in last thread...
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·        MLHD      Material Ledger Document: Header
·        MLIT Material Ledger Document: Items
·        MLPP      Material Ledger Document: Posting Periods and Quantities
·        MLPPF    Material Ledger Document: Field Groups (Posting Periods and Quantities)
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·        MLCRF    Material Ledger Document: Field Groups (Currencies and Values)
·        MLCRP    Material Ledger Document: Price Change (Currencies, Prices)
·        MLMST    Material Ledger Document: Costing Run Header Data
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·        CL     Material Ledger Closing Entries
·        UP    Material Ledger Update
·        PC    Price Changes
·        ST     Single-Level Price Determination
·        MS    Multilevel Price Determination
·        RE    Material Ledger Data Repairs
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Material ledger documents are data that is recorded during each business transaction that is relevant to valuation. You can archive documents for closed periods when they are no longer needed for material price determination or reporting purposes. Archiving the documents deletes them from the database.
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