Transfer rating jpeg's to RAW files

Hi everybody,
Here's my thing : after rating my jpeg's, I only want to keep the corresponding RAW files (I'm always shooting in jpeg & RAW at the same time). How can I delete the remaining RAW files without having to select everything manually ? I'm shooting a lot of images, so that's taking a lot of time !
I can't figure it out, has anyone got an idea ???
Lex

Hi Omke,
Thanks a lot !  Your way works much faster than mine !  My method : 
first I deleted all non-rated jpeg's. Then I went to finder, and there 
I selected all the corresponding RAW files and dragged them to an emty 
folder. I went back to Bridge, deleted all the remaining RAW files, 
then back to finder, selecting the RAW's in the new folder and 
dragging them back into the origanal folder. And then back to Bridge 
to check if I had the same amount RAW's and jpeg's in the end. 
Pffffff......
Especially the manual selecting in Bridge is much more pleasant than 
selecting filename's in finder.
Thanks for giving it a thought !
Lex
Op 28 feb 2010, om 16:34 heeft Omke Oudeman het volgende geschreven:
That is a difficult one and I can't think of an easy method other then
changing your workflow, but that is not really the solution for you.
>
Personal I only shoot Raw and convert those to DNG. If Raw is the 
target to
use then you should start to select the Raw files instead of jpeg 
but again
every one is using his own workflow and you may have a perfect good 
reason
to do so
>
The only thing I can think of to select them a bit more easy, (but 
it will
still be manual and also assuming you have used the same filename 
and only
different extension) is to filter the rating you have done for the 
files. So
if you have used 1 star just select 1 star in the filter panel. Now 
all 1
star rated files show in the content panel.
>
Select them all and now again go to the filter panel and deselect 
the 1 star
rating. When still in filename sort order you see the jpegs (and 
next to
them all your Raw files because they have the same name) you have 
rated
spread over the content panel but still selected and easy to see 
with the
yellow border around it . With the command button pressed you can 
easily
find the Raw files next to the selected 1 star rated files and click 
on them
one by one to add those file to your selected series. When having run
through this whole content file adding the wanted Raw files to your
selection click on the rating star bar at the bottom of one file and 
now
they all get the same rating.
>
Now you can either select the rating again in the filter panel and 
move the
rated jpeg and Raw to another folder or select unrated and move or 
delete
the not wanted files.
>
It's not a perfect solution but I don't see an other way
>
>
>> I can't figure it out, has anyone got an idea ???
>
>

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    Is he right, are my pics of lesser quality due to being a smaller file size? I've always been told that the quality of a picture is not in the mbs, but the pixel density.
    I've bee told that Aperture has a better compression engine and that the resulting files are of the exact same quality because the PPI and image size are the same. Is that what explains the much smaller file sizes in Aperture?
    I tried changing the picture quality in the export menu to 12 out of 12, but the resulting JPEG then becomes larger than the original RAW at over 7mbs.
    Can someone please help me understand this better? I don't want to lose picture quality if that is indeed what is happening.
    Thanks in advance for your help.

    mscriv wrote:
    So, I'm using Aperture 2 and I've got some questions about exporting from RAW to JPEG. I shoot with a Nikon D70 so original RAW files are 5-6mb in size. After doing some basic post processing when I export the pics at "full size" with picture quality of 11 out of 12 then the resulting JPEG is about half the file size of the original RAW file. For example a 5.6mb RAW becomes a 2.6mb JPEG. The resolution in pixels per inch and and the overall image size remain unchanged. Have I lost picture quality due to the exporting JPEG being smaller in file size?
    JPEG is a "lossy" file compression algorithm. Whether Aperture or PS, *every time a JPEG is saved some loss occurs*, albeit minimal at the 11 or 12 level of save, huge losses at low save levels. Some images (sky, straight diagonal lines, etc.) are more vulnerable to showing visible jpeg artifacts.
    My friend who works with me prefers to edit in Photoshop and when he follows the same workflow his saved JPEG from the identical RAW file in Photoshop is minimally smaller in file size, say 5.6mb to 5.3mb. He's telling me that my Aperture edited photos are losing quality and resolution.
    *Both of you are losing image data when you save to jpeg.* IMO the differences between the apps is probably just how the apps work rather than actually losing significantly more data. The real image data loss is in using JPEG at all!
    Is he right, are my pics of lesser quality due to being a smaller file size?
    I doubt it.
    I've always been told that the quality of a picture is not in the mbs, but the pixel density.
    The issue here is not how many pixels (because you are not varying that) but how much data each pixel contains. In this case once you avoid lossy JPEG the quality mostly has to do with different RAW conversion algorithms. Apple and Adobe both guess what Nikon is up to with the proprietary RAW NEF files and the results are different from ACR to Apple to Nikon. For my D2x pix I like Nikon's conversions the best (but Nikon software is hard to use), Aperture second and Adobe ACR (what Photoshop/Bridge uses) third. I 98% use Aperture.
    I tried changing the picture quality in the export menu to 12 out of 12, but the resulting JPEG then becomes larger than the original RAW at over 7mbs. Can someone please help me understand this better? I don't want to lose picture quality if that is indeed what is happening.
    JPEG is a useful format but lossy. Only use it as a _last step_ when you must save files size for some reason and are willing to accept the by-definition loss of image data to obtain smaller files (such as for web work or other on-screen viewing). Otherwise (especially for printing) save as TIFF or PSD which are non-lossy file types, but larger.
    As to the Aperture vs. ACR argument, RAW-convert the same original both ways, save as TIFF and see if your eyes/brain significantly prefer one over the other. Nikon, Canon etc. keep proprietary original image capture data algorithms secret and each individual camera's RAW conversion is different.
    HTH
    -Allen

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  • RAW files to JPEG in Elements 9  ?

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    <...>
    So I would do a batch export of highest quality JPEGs
    of all these master files, and import those into
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    the photos in iPhoto. If I ever wanted to go back and
    make a 13x19-inch print, I'd use iPhoto to
    find the file (via metadata such as keywords,
    date, album, comments, etc.), then use that filename
    to go back and find the original raw (or PSD) file
    and print from that.
    <...>
    I did a fairly similar thing, as I think did a lot of people.
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    associated in any way.
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    extension. Is there any way in Aperture to associate
    them with each other, or automatically apply the
    metadata from the JPEGs to the raw files? An
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    Good luck with the project.

  • I am having issues when I shoot raw + jpeg. Raw files seem corrupt!!

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    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    While it could certainly be a card-reader problem, data corruption of any kind can be any of the following:
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  • How to get thumbnails to indicate whether JPEGs or Raw files?

    In earlier versions of iPhoto I could look at a photo thumbnail and immediately tell whether it was a JPEG or a RAW file because the description below the thumbnail indicated such. With iPhoto version 9.2 the thumbnails do not include this information. Is there anyway I can cause this information to be displayed beneath the thumbnails? I shoot JPEG + RAW and would like to distinguish between JPEG and RAW files by merely looking at the thumbnails.
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    To see the Preview drag the shot to the Desktop from the iPhoto Window - that's it. Open it in Preview and compare that with the Jpeg version from the camera - just visually, not file sizes etc. (I'll come to that later on.)
    I do all of my editing in Photoshop Elements, so in order to convert this RAW file I right clicked on the thumbnail and selected “Edit in External Editor” whereupon the RAW file opened up in Adobe Camera Raw.
    In the iPhoto Preferences -> Advanced, have you selected to 'Use Raw when using external editor' ? If not then you're not processing Raw at all, just the Jpeg preview.
    Yes, I selected "Use RAW when using external editor."
    That workflow is quite convoluted
    Camera to iPhoto, iPhoto to ACR, ACR to Elements, Elements to Finder (tiff), Finder to iPhoto (Sharpening), iPhoto to Finder (Jpeg) and then Finder to iPhoto.
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    That's too complex and worse, there is no connection between the Master Raw and the final Jpeg. They're not even linked in the iPhoto database. You can't revert from the Final Jpeg to the master Raw.
    I can't think of a reason why I would I want to revert from the final JPEG to the master RAW. The master RAW is already available.
    Even though my workflow gives me good results it is more complex than I would like it to be. Since acquiring my new iMac last January I have been seriously thinking about downloading Aperture 3 from the Apps Store for a mere $79 and using it to manage and edit my images. Presumably that would give me a less convoluted workflow. A big question will be what to do with all of the thousands of images I have stored in iPhoto--leave them where they are as referenced files or move them into Aperture where they will be managed files. My initial inclination is to leave them in iPhoto.
    To use the iPhoto preview just... use it. If you import a Raw and then try do anything with it, email, upload, print etc then it's the Jpeg Preview that is used.
    If you process the Raw in iPhoto then the Preview is regenerated incorporating the decisions you made.
    If you export (File -> Export) you can use many settings to set the level of compression, size and so on of the resulting file.
    Put it this way: I'd be 99% sure that the iPhoto preview will be good enough for sharing by email or online. It may also be perfectly good enough for printing too - but if it's not that's when you export to the quality you prefer.
    This is good to know. Sometimes I just want to quickly e-mail a group of JPEGs without having to go through the process of generating JPEGs by processing the RAW files. I previously mentioned that by dragging the thumbnail labelled RAW to my desktop it becomes a JPEG which can then be dragged back into the iPhoto Library. If I'm shooting only RAW is that the best way to quickly obtain a JPEG? By the way, I just did this with one of my thumbnails labelled RAW. The size of the JPEG thereby obtained was 6.3 MB. This is larger than the size of the high quality camera-generated JPEG which is 5.8 MB. This would seem to indicate that the iPhoto-generated JPEGs are of high quality. In a side-buy-side comparison the two images looked very similar except for the iPhoto-generated JPEG being a little brighter than the camera-generated one.
    So if I am understanding this situation correctly it appears that I can cease shooting JPEG +RAW and instead shoot only RAW. Then for best results I will process RAW files to produce highest quality JPEGs and for less demanding requirements and for quick responses I can use the iPhoto-generated JPEGs.
    Question: Even though I have been shooting JPEG + RAW for a relatively short time I have managed to accumulate a goodly number of camera-generated JPEGs. How can I most readily delete these JPEGs without having to go through my iPhoto library and tediously deleting them one-by-one?
    Regards
    TD

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    I always work with jpegs because it is much faster this way while working on my laptop. OI usually only export a small number of full size tiffs once my client has made a selection. In this case however I have just found out my client needs full size tiffs from all the edited pictures ( I put the jpegs in one folder and raw files in another, importing only the jpegs ). I just wanted to find if there was any way of matching the file numbers from my jpegs to those of the raw files so that I could then import only the raw files I need without having to work through the entire edit in the raw folder.
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