Transferring Apple Mail from 10.7.5 to 10.9.5 / alternate to moving Mail folder

Hello,
I have a new Retina MBP running 10.9.5 that is replacing an aging Unibody MBP that is running 10.7.5 (Hence posting in the Lion community).
I know about transferring Mail by moving the Mail folder in my Library folder and matching preferences . . .
BUT . . .
I did a little exploring and discovered that if I just add the three imap accounts I currently use in Apple Mail on the old laptop to Apple Mail the new laptop, it appears that all the sub-folders I have created in Mail on the old laptop are created and populated on the new laptop. A look at the resulting Mail folder on the new laptop seems to look pretty much the same as the Mail folder on the old laptop as well. (some of the .mbox file sizes are slightly different however???)
Not having intimate knowledge of exactly how .mbox files work, I am wondering if this is as good a way to transfer Mail to 10.9.5 from 10.7.5
(as long as all my accounts are imap rather than pop)
OR
Is it safer to move the Mail folder??????
Thanks
John

The update you downloaded is just that, an update. It is an update for those running 10.9.x already.
You need to go to the Mac App Store to get the Mavericks upgrade, if your Mac is capable of running it.
iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer
You will not get it from the Software Updates or the App Store "Updates" tab. You will be downloading the Mavericks installer app which will run upon download.

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Hello all,
I have finally got myself a new computer and been immersed in the "new" way- my old mac was a bit like a volkswagen beetle, old and cranky but very efficient.
This new interlaced madness is proving to be very confusing on many levels but here I will state one problem I am seeking a solution to:
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1. This seems to be common with most people
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