Transferring clips from avid to fcp via firewire

a bit off the wall question ... but is it possible to transfer clips from my avid media composer adrenaline (pc) to my fcp via firewire using the capture tool. the clips are dvcpro hd on the avid. it is easy to output the clips or sequences to tape (panasonic aj-hd1200 or 1400) via firewire so my plan is to "simply" substitute fcp for a deck and capture the clips free running into fcp. theoretically it seems to me that it should work. i set the device to non-controllable and capture settings to dvcpro hd 720p 60 to match the output from the avid. one problem is that when i connect the firewire cable from the pc to the mac, on the pc new hardware found message pops up and i have no way of telling windows what the device is. anyway have any experience or any ideas. thanks.

I doubt very much that your plan will work.
Why not just set up file sharing on the PC and pull the files onto the Mac using Finder?
That way you will retain the embedded data in the files.
Then you will probably need the QuickTime codecs from Avid too. (I don't have a link, maybe someone else will post it)
All in all, it might be better just to recapture directly into FCP from the original tapes.

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does anyone have advice for the best way to transfer "specific" user data from one Mac to another? i just want to copy all the stuff needed to sync my iPhone (i.e. iTunes library & iPhoto library), without bringing the old Account over to the destination machine.
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