Transferring multiple bootable volumes & data to a T4 drive?

Hoping I can bounce this off someone before proceeding - I've scoured the forums & the google, but its not getting any clearer.   I'm attempting to transfer via CarbonCopier or Disk Utility, but I'm getting confused due to the different data & volumes I'm shifting.
I'm on a MBPro (upgraded OWC SSD @ 10.6.8) and about to update to M.Lion. Before I do, I want to clone my current volume (10.6.8) a Lacie T4.   I'm okay with that - make a partition on the destination and clone away.
However, I have three other Lacies; a 250G (as a bootable 10.5.8), a 500G (w/ data folders & files only) and a T1 (w/ folders & Time Machine b.up) - all these have unused space. I also want to shift over my old MBProHD which is a bootable vol (10.6.8) in an OWC case.
Before copying/cloning, I'm guessing all bootables need their own partition on the T4 (sized accordingly to each volume - not necess the full 250G, 500G etc..) ?
Also -- do I need to be launched on each OSX version/volume before cloning to the destination? (i.e. startup in 10.5.8 then clone onto the T4) …or is that not necess.?
As I can only partition once (i believe) - I'm planning to divide the extra T4 space into 200G sections in case I want to turn them into bootables in the future….thoughts?
….just curious if I am on the right track not!
Thanks in advance for any info------------
cheers J.

thnx for the info Ogelthorpe ---- much appreciated. I think I'll get a handle on it.
i also saw some other info on the skanner21 thread w/ Kappys info over here ;
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2745587
cheers for the reply
J.

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