Transformation and DTP for upgraded 3.5 objects in BI 7.0

Dear Experts,
When I do a upgrade from bw 3.5 to BI 7.0, How do I create transformation and DTP for the upgraded objects. Do I need to create new transformation and DTP for these objects?.
Thanks,
Varun

If only needed nw2004s data flow(DTP,Transformation..) then migration required else you can stay with old 3.x dataflow.
Follow below links patiently it has wealth of information embedded.
For nw2004s data flow
Pre-requisite - 3.x datasource to be replicated as 7.0
and migrate datasource with "export datasource option" so that you can later revert back to OLD if needed.
nw2004s Concepts
new NW2004s Data flow
R/3---->PSA only (using Infopackage) for all the Loads -Mandatory
PSA -
>ODS/Cube -->load using DTP ,create transformation first
no Datamart architecture in NW2004s
so ODS -
>Cube load using DTP ,creating transformation first
Once loaded to PSA in DTP you have the option of FULL or DELTA ,full loads all the data from PSA and DELTA loads only the last load of PSA.
Go through the links for Lucid explainations
Infopackage -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/03808225cf5167e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
DTP
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/42/f98e07cc483255e10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
Creating DTP
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/42/fa50e40f501a77e10000000a422035/content.htm
Pre-requisite-
You have used transformations to define the data flow between the source and target object.
Creating transformations-
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/f8/7913426e48db2ce10000000a1550b0/content.htm
ODS to Cube -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/ce/dc87c1d711f846b34e0e42ede5ebb7/content.htm
Migrating update rules/transfer rules routines to Transformations - Trick
On the InfoSource Tab (Note- Ensure DataSource and Infosource have not been migrated)
1. Right Click > Additional Functions > Create Transfer Rules
2. Activate Transfer Rules
3. Right Click > Additional Functions > Transformation erzeugen
On the DataSource Tab
4. Create Transformation (Map to DSO, should map automatically)
5. Migrate DataSource
6. Create InfoPackage
7. Create DTP
Recover 3.x data source migration transformation
Transformation Rules
Hope it Helps
Chetan
@CP..

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