Transparency effecting (desaturating) layer underneath

I have a group of vector images that I have applied a multiply effect over a black and white photo. (the intention is to create a puppet-like shadow effect over a photo) However the photo underneath the vector artwork, which is on a separate layer loses saturation as soon as any effect is applied to the vector artwork. A first I thought this was only on screen, but I've done print test and the results are the same as they appear on screen - the photo becomes desaturated. When I look at the flattener preview it shows the photo underneath as affected, but is there any way I can keep the layer underneath from not desaturating?

Saturation usually refers to the intensity of colour in an image. Open a colour image in Photoshop and go to Image > Adjust > Hue / Saturation and dial down the saturation. See? Grayscale. So how is transparency reducing the saturation in an image that has no saturation?
Regardless of that confusion: Your image should be in Image > Mode > Grayscale, and your transparency blend space in InDesign should be CMYK. Also make sure the shadow colour is defined as black only, since this is a two colour job.

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I'm working on a drawing that somehow I've created a layer on -- all blue, that has what looks like a vector mask
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And I don't know how to reproduce this effect!
Every time I create a vector mask, it shapes the layer.
If I take that vector looking mask on that layer, and try to copy it to another layer -- it shapes the layer!
If I copy it back to the original layer -- it shapes the original layer...
So there's something about the vector mask that says the shape of the layer is everything on the 'outside' of the vector.
How in the heck!? The 'invert' button is not available when you go into 'masks' and look at the vector masks.
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Thanks!
I looked through the reference docs and couldn't find anything on how to do this. Is it in the reference docs anywhere, do you know? Or is just another one of those things that people learn, but Adobe doesn't document.
I can see if someone has 'grown up w/photoshop' and realizes what tools are "orthogonal" to other tools of those, which can have their settings altered to do something meaninful with the primary tool, it could be a powerful tool (and is touted as being so), but if you don't know the interconnects, it doesn't seem like they are well documented in the reference manual.
I wonder if Adobe might consider having someone like Grinder and Bandler** write a manual to bring people 'into' the photoshop world -- to
give people an awareness of which tools were orthogonal and retrain someone's mind to think in terms of building up an effect by combining different aspects of orthogonal tools. I wonder if it would even be possible to write such a book...(just some late sunday musings).
**-authors of Neurolinguistic programing books that try to impart or give others new ways of thinking about things (vs. imparting 'how to or factual knowledge)...

InDesign Transparency Effects - Problems with Image Quality and File Size

Hello,
We are experiencing new problems exporting InDesign files to PDF.
To summarize, though our largest workflow is to create files for offset printing, we also deliver our work to PDF for mounting on a website so our clients can download directly from the web. Our new problem is Transparency Effects, and creating a PDF that will both have a high quality (or resolution), and be a small file size.
We are working with multiple page documents (24 to 48 pages), and would very much like to work with InDesign Transparency Effects. However, after spending much time testing a variety of PDF types, we are finding there is a radical difference between quality and file size. I was curious if anyone has had these problems, and if there is a simple answer. InDesign is an incredible program that allows us to design on the fly with Transparency Effects, but, if we are going to experience these problems, we will have to eliminate these wonderful tools.
Can you help me or lead me to information online that will help.
Thank you,
Lain

Please don't post in multiple forums. Your question has nothing to do with the PDF language and specifications, but rather PDF workflow or InDesign. I've responded to your other posting and am closing this thread.
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*{color}*
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It's not a commited part of the standard API yet, but as of 1.6_10 you can add transparency effects to a window through the use of
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Transparency effects are not updated on frame's content change(shardow, etc.)

Hello everyone.
I've faced the following problem:
My shape, which is based on CGraphicsFrameShape and kSplinePageItemBoss does not update it's transparency effects after changing own content.
The content is drawn by AGMImageRecord and IGraphicsPort::image. I also use IXPUtils::CreateImagePaintServer,IGraphicsPort::SetAlphaServer for drawing image with some transparecy mask ( the idea is stolen from SDK's sample "Transparency effects" ).
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I tried Inval method, DrawPageItemAdornments method, InvalPageItemAdornments method, but nothing works - the shadow still gets updated only on frame's resize.
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And one more moment - this happens only when display performance is set to "typical". When "high quality" is set - everything updates well.

After Effects error : layer does not have a source.

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I add a Text layer and then add my custom fill effect to it. Then I call AdvItemSuite1()->PF_ForceRerender(in_data, &(params[0]->u.ld)) from AEGP for all the layers. But only for Text layer, AE pops up a dialog displaying the following error :
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Am 13.04.2011 12:21, schrieb dheeraj_c:
For now just added a dummy parameter in the effect and calling AEGP_SetStreamValue() to render all the layer with effect.
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Transparent effect

hi can anyone show me how to apply transparent effect to 3d object/simple object like glass in illustrator cs4 plz

As you can see:
Individual surfaces do interact transparently; even inside and outside surfaces of the same path.
Mapped Symbol is opaque and interacts correctly with the translucent surfaces. (Symbol can be made to assume transparency of the surface to which it's mapped by turning on Shade Artwork.)
Different transparency can be applied to separate paths within the same Revolved Group, and/or to individual Strokes and Fills of the same path. (Rendering aberations are likely, depending upon geometry.)
It is not necessary to expand, ungroup, etc., etc. (The Revolve object below is still completely live and rotateable.)
In other words, Opacity can be applied at the Appearance level or the object level, either before applying the 3D Effect or after.
Also, Draw Hidden Faces is turned off in the drawing below. (Faces are not hidden if they are visible through a translucent surface.)
Making something "look like glass" however, involves more than just applying Illustrator's 3D Effect to translucent paths (and can be rendered with or without 3D Effect; and with or without transparency effects). Convincing glass rendering is like convincing rendering of any other shiny surface: It involves judicious drawing of highlights and reflections, not just one-click, instant-gratification effects.
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Swatch control in transparency effects

Does Adobe have any plans to incorporate swatch control in transparency effects? What I mean is, say you want transparency effects to affect all but one swatch. And where it interacts with that particular color - no effect. Or, the opposite, have the transparency affect ONLY one swatch, and ignore other colors.
To have a feature like this, the document swatches would probably have to be listed in the effects dialog, maybe with check boxes to turn swatches on or off. I think a feature like this would be very useful.
To see what I mean, draw 3 boxes on an InDesign page, make all 3 overlap. Color one cyan, one magenta, and one yellow. Bring magenta and yellow both to the front, and set to multiply. Make sure magenta and yellow only overlap within the area of the cyan (refer to the image). There is green overlap, blue overlap, and dark brown. The brown is where all 3 overlap. Is there a way to make the brown area red - and leave everything else the same? (The red would come from yellow and magenta being multiplied, with no cyan not participating).
Do this without a pathfinder command, or drawing a red box, or a white box to KO the cyan, or drawing any extra objects or changing the exiting shapes. If there is no way to do it, then OK, I didn't think there was. But if some sort of color or ink control is incorporated in the future it would be possible. Transparency is applied to objects and groups. Why not extend the capability to colors as well? It would add a new dimension of control.
In the example, if the cyan swatch was excluded from the transparency effects, the brown area would be red. No extra artwork added, no modifying the existing shapes.
If you group the yellow and magenta, and isolate blending, it's true the red color is achieved. But the green and blue overlaps are also eliminated. I want to know if it is possible (or ever will be possible) to selectively control document swatches in a transparency context.

Maybe listing swatches with effects would create too much confusion. If it canceled transparencies, people may get frustrated trying to figure out why the transparency has no effect on an object, when in fact the negated transparency is being caused by the underlying object's color.
Setting aside the swatch idea for now – what about something much simpler, and much more attainable? Is it possible to add a feature that makes an underlying object "immune" to transparencies of objects on top of it?
This would be one simple option that could be enabled. The result would be this: any blend modes on top of the object would not affect the object. They become normal blend mode in relation to the specified object. A simple knockout. (Drop shadows could still exist on top of the object of course, but they would not multiply)
You could go a step further and split this option into two, one targeting blend modes, and the other opacities. The blend mode would probably be the more commonly used - making all objects on top knock out, with one simple command.
Basically the object won't allow transparencies above it to interact with it. It would eliminate the need for modifying the objects shape, or creating additional objects to achieve a knockout.
In the case of the 3 blocks, the cyan would be assigned "immune to transparency effects". So the area where all 3 boxes intersect becomes red. A very simple solution. I think people would use this feature.
How do you go about getting Adobe to consider adding something like this to InDesign, or other applications?

Transparent Deployment Using Layer 4 Switch

Hi,
Just want to ask how to deploy WSA Ironport on transparent mode on layer 4 Switch.
I believe it is just deployed by choosing Layer 4 on Transparent Redirection on WSA Ironport.
But the question is, what will I need to configure to my Layer 4 switch for it to redirect traffic to WSA?
I'm trying to connect it to a hp procurve layer 4 switch to use transparent redirection.
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Make sure your swtich can do it:
http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Switches-Hubs-Modems-Legacy-ITRC/HP-Procurve-2626-Policy-based-routing/td-p/5421071
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Making a visible top layer invisible for buttons/ controls on a layer underneath it.

THE PROJECT
I have 3 layers in a CS3 project, in the following order:
- top Layer (semi-transparent Vignet Layer, and some additional Graphics, all this is contained in a dynamicly loaded mc)
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SOLUTION
Dynamicly disable the top layer, so flash doent use it anymore.
I want to keep it visible, but not accessible for any mouse actions.
It has to keep the dynamic content underneath it visible for interaction.
I hope I Described it clear enough, so someone can give me the solution.
I gues it's some real simple code attachment.
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I made a quick exaample to demo having a layer of something atop a controls layer and disabling it from interfering with controls below it. For this example, the lightened rectangular area is the Vignet layer that sits atop a button on a layer below it--I threw in a background layer too, just to cofuse the eyeballs I guess.. When you click the button it enables the Vignet layer so that it blocks the button, and clicking on it disables it again... just a liuttle variety of commands that might be useful for you at some point.
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Changing the fade would then necessitate opening the SO and making the changes there, so convenience-wise that’s not so great.
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Exporting an Interactive pdf using the attached (15.8) jpegs settings
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